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Turtle 10-09-2016 05:21 PM

Why don't the BB psychologists screen-out Sociopaths?
 
Surely they have some ethical duty in this regard.

Sociopathy has become a form of entertainment, and many times these people will get really far in the show because of it.

It should not be encouraged, and it is a form of mental and emotional torture for the 'regular' housemates to be subjected to.

It's largely an invisible mental-illness because it does not conflict with our cultural aspirations of "getting ahead" / Capitalism.

Jay28jay2 10-09-2016 07:11 PM

They probably don't even check them nowadays

Raph 10-09-2016 09:17 PM

I think it's cause it helps make some of the best housemates.. People who come to mind:

Dan (BB10USA), Makosi (BB6UK), Paulie (BB18USA), Cassandra (BBCAN4)

empire 10-09-2016 09:17 PM

there have been a number of psychologists, who have quit the show over the years, 2004,2005,2006,2011,2014,2015,2016, there are many people who should never of went into the house, but the bb bosses rejected their concerns,

Raph 10-09-2016 09:17 PM

Also it's SUPER hard to diagnose a sociopath because they know exactly how to give all the right answers. Paulie (BB18USA) even alluded to lying to the psychologist to get through

Raph 10-09-2016 09:27 PM

On that note though, I barely watched this CBB (only the finale) but Bear didn't come across as a sociopath at ALL to me, he's too unaware of what he's doing

I have a skill that allows me to identify a sociopath from miles away and bear really didn't give that vibe

Raph 10-09-2016 09:29 PM

I will say though that sociopaths would fair far better on the BBUSA/CAN version than the UK one, in fact the North American format of the game is to me, a sociopaths ultimate dream setting. A place where manipulation and fake charm is rewarded :D

Jake. 10-09-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 8972393)
On that note though, I barely watched this CBB (only the finale) but Bear didn't come across as a sociopath at ALL to me, he's too unaware of what he's doing

I have a skill that allows me to identify a sociopath from miles away and bear really didn't give that vibe

bear 100% knew what he was doing lol

Raph 10-09-2016 10:09 PM

Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

Jake. 10-09-2016 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 8972452)
Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

Caroline (BB13) comes to mind for me

Vicky. 10-09-2016 10:48 PM

LOL, I don't think they have done the psych tests for like 10 years or something :laugh: Don't think they were too strict with it anyway given the likes of Shahbaz and Nikki got in there :laugh:

As for examples of sociopath, main one that comes to mind is Bea Hamil.

Brekkie 18-09-2016 04:39 PM

They do, but C5 overrule them.

Marsh. 18-09-2016 04:49 PM

They don't have them anymore.

Jason. 18-09-2016 04:57 PM

They don't even check people's twitter accounts prior to entering so I doubt they do psych checks.

Ammi 19-09-2016 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8981023)
They don't have them anymore.

..yeah, I know...I miss the old style BB days when they had all of the sociopaths...:sad:...

Mystic Mock 19-09-2016 09:56 PM

BB doesn't care for people's well being, it's about testing the Housemates and psychologically torturing them with demeaning tasks, annoying people to live with, the paranoia of not knowing what the public truly think of you (especially in the BB2-6 days) and how Davina/Brian/Emma is gonna treat you in your interview is another paranoia for the Housemates that BB wants them to be paranoid about.

Maru 20-09-2016 07:09 PM

They tend veer more towards exhibitionists more than sociopaths though... depends on the series.

Crimson Dynamo 20-09-2016 07:15 PM

lol like a psychologist is a real thing...

johne 23-09-2016 08:41 AM

I love the psychological aspects of this show, and hate the "I'm a celeb" type of vile tasks (vomiting contests etc.). It's a shame psyc on the side has gone, but at least we still have Pam Spears and Judi James. Without them it wouldn't be worth watching any more.

Dash Darington 18-10-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 8972452)
Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

Congrats on spotting Dan as a sociopath. Most don't want to believe it.

That Australian guy with the long curly hair, who was on BBCan, is a prime example. I remember him openly saying on his original season that he doesn't care about people unless he can use them. He was a superb manipulator, superficially charming, and conned the hell out of the audience.

The reason they don't screen them out is that they're reasonably benign, as long as their behavior is monitored. Sociopaths who are physically or sexually abused when they're young are some of the most dangerous people in the world, however.

Raph 18-10-2016 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 9018604)
Congrats on spotting Dan as a sociopath. Most don't want to believe it.

That Australian guy with the long curly hair, who was on BBCan, is a prime example. I remember him openly saying on his original season that he doesn't care about people unless he can use them. He was a superb manipulator, superficially charming, and conned the hell out of the audience.

The reason they don't screen them out is that they're reasonably benign, as long as their behavior is monitored. Sociopaths who are physically or sexually abused when they're young are some of the most dangerous people in the world, however.

Yes from BBUSA Dan (BB10) and Paulie (BB18) come to mind.
From BBCAN, Tim (BBCAN4) and Cassandra (BBCAN4) definitely come to mind, definitely. I thought this throughout the season so i'm glad you saw it too!

Raph 18-10-2016 06:39 PM

But YES they make phenomenal houseguests. Dan and Paulie are my two favourite ever BBUSA houseguests and Cassandra was my favorite from last season!

Lostie! 18-10-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 9018902)
Yes from BBUSA Dan (BB10) and Paulie (BB18) come to mind.
From BBCAN, Tim (BBCAN4) and Cassandra (BBCAN4) definitely come to mind, definitely. I thought this throughout the season so i'm glad you saw it too!

I'd definitely disagree about Tim Dormer. I didn't see BBCAN4 all the way through but from watching his BBAU he didn't seem like a "sociopath" at all, particularly from his emotional response to a few of the evictions (and that clip from the web series he did with Ben where he got teary when Ben was talking about his personal demons). Loads of RTV contestants make claims about not caring about people etc in their VTs, the vast majority of it is bravado to get on the show.

I think he's someone who can get very into a game and separate strategic decisions from his personal feelings but definitely not a sociopath. :laugh:

VanessaFeltz. 21-10-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8984334)
lol like a psychologist is a real thing...

um :fist:

Cal. 21-10-2016 11:30 AM

Sociopaths are the best kind of housemates.


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