Oliver_W |
15-01-2018 11:20 AM |
Someone on DS posted a transcript:
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MATHEW:You were the first housmate to be evicted, I don’t know whether you’ve had a chance to catch up with the press but The Daily Star billed you last week as ‘The Most Hated Housemate Ever’.
INDIA: Really?
MATHEW: That’s a sobriquet to live with isn’t it?
INDIA: It is. But it’s quite an acolade considering some of the people who’ve been in The Big Brother house and quite honestly I thought I was quite Bambi-esque compared to some of the housemates from previous years.
MATHEW: I spoke every day last week to your colleagues from 5 News and they all said the same thing, “We don’t understand it. India never mentions Trans, her state with us at all. She’s just a laugh, blah blah blah, we look at her in the house and she seems to talk about nothing else.”
INDIA: Well today I think I do need to set the record straight and I’m sorry that Stanley (RACHEL'S FATHER) is here because he’s a lovely gentlemen and I’m a massive, massive fan but the architect of my demise was sadly your daughter. Within an hour of going in the house I was being misgendered left, right and centre. I started off politely just pointing out the reason that was inappropriate but it just continued. Then when the doors to the bedroom opened I went in, I ended up in the girls bedroom, Ann Widdicombe quite happily went to the other bedroom – which was going to be the boys bedroom – but then decided she wanted to come into this bedroom. The girls all had a conference and decided that if anyone was going to move, it was going to be me. I didn’t really think I should be going into the boys bedroom.
MATHEW: Why do you think this was? Because they didn’t accept you for who you are?
INDIA: Well there was this undercurrent and I felt from the start, because of what Rachel was doing – the misgendering – and Ann, it sort of marked me out as the runt of the litter and so if you’re continually being questioned about whether you’re ‘He’ or ‘Him’ you are going to reaffirm your gender.
MATHEW: Or turn the other cheek and show your fun side?
INDIA: Well… There is a possibility of that, but honestly in that pressure cooker atmosphere it’s really difficult. I was also egged on by Rachel.
MATHEW: Did you see what she wrote about you at the weekend? “Indias trademark is to prance away in a calculated display-flounce should anyone misgender her or one of the men suggest they wouldn’t like to date her.”
INDIA: Right.
STANLEY: How did Rachel write that at the weekend? I thought she was in the house?
ANNE: (DIAMOND) That’s what I thought.
INDIA: Well this is interesting because the first rule of Big Brother is that all housemates should have no contact with the outside world, so I would say that’s disqualification, surely?
MATHEW: Maybe you’re taking it too seriously?
INDIA: I don’t know, but in terms of the actual prancing around the room. Rachel was saying, “Show me your bazookas!” on camera, you know, egging me on. She was saying “Are they real? Can I touch them?” and having told her repeatedly that I’m a ‘She’ I’m a ‘woman’ and what have you, I just got tired of verbally doing it and I thought, “Do you know what? I’m just going to let my body speak for itself.” But the well of potential goodwill in the house was poisoned early on and it was really difficult. And its maybe something only trans people will understand.
MATHEW: Okay but I’ve seen trans people on social media pick you up for comments about drag queens.
INDIA: Yeah.
MATHEW: You’re phobic about drag queens?
INDIA: I can’t help that.
MATHEW: Is phobic the right word?
INDIA: For me I think it is, yeah. I mean drag is an act.
MATHEW: But there’s photos of you, online at Pride, with drag queens. So if your phobic surely you come out in hives and get sick?
INDIA: No, not at all. I’m sure there are people who don’t like clowns but depending on how a particular clown looks can be in that company and get by. But if I’m at an event by the organiser – I didn’t know the drag queens were going to be there – but if I’m at an event on that day and the organiser says, “Look we’re going to get some PR shots, go over there.” Then I’m going to do it.
MATHEW: Are you? Surely if your phobic you say “No I don’t want to.”
ANNE: That would get reported too though wouldn’t it?
INDIA: Yeah I don’t want to be difficult. I mean, I’ll explain it really quickly and succinctly – we just saw a shot there of ‘Betty Swallocks’ who came on and I’ve no issue with people who actually do drag, no concern. But having been through the transition process I knew that the following day after that clip was shown there would be someone in Britain who actually looks like Andrew who is transgender, who would be sitting on a bus, going to work, in a dress – bigger than me, hairier than me, broader than me who stands out more and having seen that, people in the office would maybe have been nudging and saying “Betty Swallocks” – so that is my problem with drag.
MATHEW: I get it. It can make like more difficult for people, it becomes a laugh?
INDIA: It becomes a laugh.
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India's comments on drag queens, and traps who look like Betty Swollocks, do make sense and are understandable, it's just stupid, she had to call it a "phobia".
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