Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9822664)

I'm guessing safe means not being beaten up by your partner, mercy-killed by your family, sexually assaulted, taken abroad for FGM, fiddled with when you're a little girl, raped... you know, all that stuff. And I have to say that I'm not really surprised the UK isn't in the top 10.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9822670)

Well yes, but which and to what level? e.g. is it just killings, is it sexual assault, is it all violent assault, does it include non-violent harassment... etc.

I'm not really surprised that the UK isn't on the list, either, for multiple reasons. To be totally honest - and I really don't want this to come across as "victim blaming" because I'm not excusing anything, just stating something fairly obvious - Britains "binge drinking" culture pretty much ensures that the UK will never be on the list of safest places. Outside of domestic incidents, which I assume are at the top of the list in all countries, it's a simple fact that people are at some risk when heavily intoxicated or around heavily intoxicated people. It's rare to go on a weekend night out in a city and NOT see an assault of some nature involving alcohol.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9822670)

Well yes, but which and to what level? e.g. is it just killings, is it sexual assault, is it all violent assault, does it include non-violent harassment... etc.

I'm not really surprised that the UK isn't on the list, either, for multiple reasons. To be totally honest - and I really don't want this to come across as "victim blaming" because I'm not excusing anything, just stating something fairly obvious - Britains "binge drinking" culture pretty much ensures that the UK will never be on the list of safest places. Outside of domestic incidents, which I assume are at the top of the list in all countries, it's a simple fact that people are at some risk when heavily intoxicated or around heavily intoxicated people. It's rare to go on a weekend night out in a city and NOT see an assault of some nature involving alcohol.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9822674)

Whilst I agree with your points, I'd like to point out that Australia topped the list and does have a binge drink culture, maybe not as much as the UK or Ireland but it still does

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9822683)

I don't know, Australia does have it's drinking (and drinking to excess) issues but it's not the same as the UK bar / clubbing scene by quite a long way. I'd even say that the "drinking scene" in England is more aggressive in general than Ireland and even Scotland... and that's not saying it's safe here; I've seen countless fights in Glasgow and two stabbings on nights out :umm2:. But I lived in England for 3 years in my early 20's and the nights out there genuinely often had this sort of underlying "tension" or aggression. It quite often felt like there were multiple people looking for an excuse to start something. Maybe that's specific to where I was living, I don't know... but yeah... the "Geordie Shore" sort of culture is very real on the drinking scene in a lot of towns.

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9822445)

The 10 safest countries in the world for women
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-1...r-women-2018-1

• New World Wealth consultancy has carried out an analysis on the safest countries in the world for women.
• They claim there is a correlation of 92% between historic wealth growth and the safety levels of women.
• Australia ranked as the safest country in the world for women.
• It was followed by Malta and Iceland, but the UK didn't make the top 10.

Australia is the world's safest country for a woman, according to analysis by consultancy New World Wealth in its 2018 Global Wealth Migration Review.

The report mainly looks at the movement of high net worth individuals (HNWI) across the world.

However, part of that analysis involves reviewing the safest countries for women.

"Woman safety is one of the best ways to gauge a country's long term wealth growth potential, with a correlation of 92% between historic wealth growth and woman safety levels," the report says.

Australia is among the best performing wealth markets in the world. Over ten years, wealth in Australia has grown by 83%.



The rankings are based on the percentage of each country's female population that has been a victim of a serious crimes over the past year.

"Most of the countries in our top 10 are also popular destinations for migrating HNWIs (high net worth individuals)," says the report. "Also, most of them have experienced strong wealth growth over the past 10-20 years."



"We expect emerging markets with good woman safety levels to be some of the world's top performers in terms of wealth growth over the next 10 years," says the report.

"For instance, countries such as Mauritius and Sri Lanka (which have good levels of woman safety) are both expected to perform very well (in terms of wealth growth) going forward."

Most of the countries in our top 10 are also popular destinations for migrating high net worth individuals.

The least safe countries in the world for woman in 2017 include Somalia, Sudan, Iraq and Syria.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9822783)

Australia?

:laugh2:

Its not the bloody humans you need to worry about there FFS

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9822805)

Apparently, once you know what you're doing the risk from wildlife is very low. But yeah. Spiders that can legitimately kill you would put me off living in Australia tbf :joker:. I can barely handle the harmless ones :umm2:.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9822789)

You can't expect us to be in the top 10 when the authorities turn a bilnd eye to 1,400 girls being raped in one town.

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9828253)

I honestly have no clue how safe UK is or isn't. The UK has a good image here... you are our more civil half according to some

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9828281)

The image that most of America has of the UK is basically limited to either vibrant London, or small idyllic countryside villages. I mean... both do exist but... it's really the tip of a big, dirty, vomit smeared binge-drinking iceberg.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9828281)

The image that most of America has of the UK is basically limited to either vibrant London, or small idyllic countryside villages. I mean... both do exist but... it's really the tip of a big, dirty, vomit smeared binge-drinking iceberg.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9828305)

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9828708)

What has this got to do with this thread?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9828976)

Well seeing as you ask with all the concern of a bulldozer as per I'll answer, even though you have quite specifically asked me NOT to quote you recently.

The reason is thus,personally I find it hard to believe that a developed country party to the treatment of children over such a protracted time frame could then be given the title of a 'safe place'... for anyone.