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Originally Posted by rusticgal
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Yes it's sad in a way...but there are many Ann's out there who feel uncomfortable with people showing intimate affection. It doesn't make her a bad person..it's just the way she is.
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Originally Posted by rusticgal
(Post 9842838)
It's not just about homosexuality...she didn't like Shane L's 'farting' story. If Jess had told her about her sex on EOTB she would have condemned that too but I don't know that Jess has told her about that?...but Jess is aware that she would have thought less of her for it...and that's understandable.
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Yeah, I don't know enough about Ann's past to feel comfortable slating her when I know that there are people who feel very uncomfortable with a lot of the things that happen on BB (but then why did she go on a show like BB? That's a reasonable criticism as well). I think her religion is by design homophobic (by the common definition of it), but that's a little less than saying she discriminates against people on the basis of homosexuality for fun/evil purposes...
I do think though that having sexuality tossed in the face of people who don't even like to have those very personal conversations out in the open is a quick way to get a negative reaction. I think that can very easily be over-read. :shrug:
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Originally Posted by Garfie
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I agree with a lot of what you say here. Ann has been totally out of her comfort zone and has coped really well with that. I think for someone who tends to live her life alone, it must have been especially hard sharing a house with others, but I think she has even enjoyed the companionship, which is nice to see.
Although I find her intolerance and eye rolling frustrating, I do think it has been lovely to see the way she has learned to accept and return affection from others.
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This is what I love about Ann and why I support her. I've enjoyed watching her on the show.
And like you, the only real thing that "irks" me about her is the eyerolling. :laugh: But that's because her facial expressions can be quite rude to other people in the room... I don't like that she leaves that open to interpretation as she claims that she cares about her reputation. But you know, I've seen much ruder come out of other people on BB... it's not really that much when you compare her behavior to other people like freaking Bear.
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Originally Posted by Jamie89
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That's kind of what I'm trying to say though, that she doesn't just have a problem with homosexuality, but her problem with homosexuality still exists. She has problems with lots of other things too like those you've mentioned, and people recognise she has a problem with those things, but often when it comes to recognising her problem with homosexuality it gets disregarded as being a part of her problem with general sex talk, my point is just that I think her problem with homosexuality is seperate from that and she's shown that she possibly has an issue with it even when the conversation isn't about sex, I think part of the problem in recognising this is that people often reduce the topic of homosexuality down to a sexual act when discussing it even when it's not really relevant to do so.
Edit to add: Lots of gay people have experiences in life that are specific to being gay and that don't have anything to do with sex, and it's some of those things that Shane was talking about when she showed disapproval.
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This is true, he has tried to get away from the banter (finally) and talk about non-sexual things. But you can see where maybe someone like her would have trouble taking his views about morality, for example, seriously when he's done the dress drop (very likely staged), has spent a considerable good amount of time talking behind her back, talked cr*p with Andrew and then he wants to talk about what he feels is morally correct?...
She's tried to point out this contradiction (in her view) I think, but she's been more or less dismissed as a miserable old hag/homophobe. (By the way, I'm behind a little in eps, so if something has changed, I've not seen it yet)
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