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Beso 16-04-2018 11:33 AM

Should there be an amnesty for grown ups with no passports who were kids 30 yrs ago.
 
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...en-of-windrush

smudgie 16-04-2018 11:50 AM

It shouldn't even be up for debate.
They came over as kids, parents worked here and contributed, they have spent all their adult lives here, as well as their childhoods.
Common sense should prevail.

Kizzy 16-04-2018 11:56 AM

Of course they should, but this is another part of operation undesirable. I must be otherwise as smudge says common sense would prevail.

Cherie 16-04-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9960840)
It shouldn't even be up for debate.
They came over as kids, parents worked here and contributed, they have spent all their adult lives here, as well as their childhoods.
Common sense should prevail.

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Kizzy 16-04-2018 12:05 PM

Brilliant, so legally she can't do what she wanted as per, so announces a u turn :joker:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8306841.html

Brillopad 16-04-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9960832)

I think it depends what they have done with their lives. If they have worked hard and mostly paid their way and have not been in any serious trouble they should stay.

Tom4784 16-04-2018 12:25 PM

Of course, it's illogical and cruel to send people back to a country they don't know when they've lived in the UK for most of their lives but it's what I've come to expect from the Tories.

AnnieK 16-04-2018 12:34 PM

Yes. Nothing more to add really.

Kizzy 16-04-2018 06:26 PM


Beso 16-04-2018 07:14 PM

Very pleased to see we are all on the same page.

AnnieK 16-04-2018 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9961610)
Very pleased to see we are all on the same page.

I feel like there should be a fanfare or something. Surely this is SD first

jaxie 16-04-2018 08:00 PM

This is a terrible injustice to the people involved. It shows up how impractical and broken our immigration system is. It simply does not make sense, it is weighted against genuine people with a genuine reason to be here.

bots 16-04-2018 08:08 PM

Just to play devils advocate :devil:

While i think its fine for people who came here legally when immigration checks were less thorough to stay, there could be a number that came here outside the system, and I don't think time should affect their being rightfully sent home.

jaxie 16-04-2018 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9961715)
Just to play devils advocate :devil:

While i think its fine for people who came here legally when immigration checks were less thorough to stay, there could be a number that came here outside the system, and I don't think time should affect their being rightfully sent home.

I think if you've lived and worked somewhere for 50 odd years you should be entitled to stay. There should definitely be a time cut off point when it's simply a done deal.

user104658 16-04-2018 08:43 PM

My wife's grandfather had to jump through a lot of hoops to get his British passport in his 60's (he is Irish) even though he moved here at about 20. But he had no documentation for Ireland either, and there was no record of his birth anywhere. A strange situation. They did eventually give him official British citizenship / a passport, though.

And of course, it was just because he wanted to be able to go abroad. No one was trying to deport him.

Oliver_W 16-04-2018 09:44 PM

I hope the Human Rights legislation actually does something right for once to help these people.

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2018 10:18 PM

Rules are rules

user104658 16-04-2018 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9961992)
Rules are rules

We live in a society.

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2018 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9961994)
We live in a society.

Thank you for your support

Mystic Mock 17-04-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9960860)
Of course, it's illogical and cruel to send people back to a country they don't know when they've lived in the UK for most of their lives but it's what I've come to expect from the Tories.

This.

armand.kay 17-04-2018 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9961992)
Rules are rules

And sometimes rules don't work for society so they need to be looked at and amended if needs be

Oliver_W 17-04-2018 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9961992)
Rules are rules

Would you say that in (insert any islamic country here) where the rules make life **** for lgbt people and women?

Sticks 17-04-2018 04:21 PM

If these people do not have the documentation to prove right of residency then they should be removed forthwith, irrespective of how long they have been here. It is up to the individual to prove they have the right to stay.

It's the law.

user104658 17-04-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 9962487)
If these people do not have the documentation to prove right of residency then they should be removed forthwith, irrespective of how long they have been here. It is up to the individual to prove they have the right to stay.

It's the law.

Beep bop boop computer sez no.

waterhog 18-04-2018 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9960840)
It shouldn't even be up for debate.
They came over as kids, parents worked here and contributed, they have spent all their adult lives here, as well as their childhoods.
Common sense should prevail.

said it so well and perfectly. no more to say. close debate !


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