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arista 09-09-2019 02:40 PM

House of Commons Speaker Bercow to Stand down at last, 31st October
 
But is staying on for a few months.



Twosugars 09-09-2019 02:42 PM

Outstanding speaker, will be missed

Withano 09-09-2019 02:44 PM

I’d stand down if Boris was PM too. Bercow must feel like he goes to work for nothing to get done.

joeysteele 09-09-2019 02:47 PM

Bercow pulling the rug from under Johnson and Co and their pathetic vindictiveness.

A true parliamentarian.

Good luck to him.

arista 09-09-2019 02:55 PM


Kazanne 09-09-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10674637)
But is staying on for a few months.



Good job,he is supposed to be impartial,something he is not :wavey:

Liam- 09-09-2019 03:57 PM

A great loss, the only person in that room that tries to keep things sane and civil

joeysteele 09-09-2019 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10674665)
A great loss, the only person in that room that tries to keep things sane and civil

Major loss.

He's there to make sure the rules of Parliament are upheld.
That he has done.

He's not there as a yes person to anyone or Party.

Those against him just don't like that he's highlighted the wrongs of the present administration in power.

Who wanted to steamroll and ride roughshed over due parliamentary processes and opinion.

Kizzy 09-09-2019 04:11 PM

I hope they can get someone as principled as Bercow who isn't intimidated by the bullingdon bullies either.
Very sad to see him step down.

Oliver_W 09-09-2019 04:15 PM

He's great! Shame tbh

arista 09-09-2019 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10674663)
Good job,he is supposed to be impartial,something he is not :wavey:


Bang On Right
Wise Kaz

Kizzy 09-09-2019 04:30 PM

modern Speaker is politically impartial and expected to avoid taking a political stance or favouring particular interests over others. To ensure this, the Speaker is expected to resign from their party on appointment*and do not campaign in general elections – usually standing unopposed by the major political parties. However, they are still a serving MP and undertake constituency work.

The role of the Speaker is almost as old as Parliament itself and has evolved significantly over time. Originally the Speaker was the monarch’s de facto representative in Parliament. From the 18th*century onwards, the Speaker gained greater independence, beginning to represent the collective voice of Parliament.

Right, so explain to me what the speaker has done that would would suggest he is not impartial? His job as representative is to speak for the collective in the commons. ..he is, so where's the problem.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...-house-commons

joeysteele 09-09-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10674680)
I hope they can get someone as principled as Bercow who isn't intimidated by the bullingdon bullies either.
Very sad to see him step down.

Principled is the word Kizzy.

Exactly, he hasn't let himself be and wouldn't let others in parliament be bullied in Parliament.
Like it seems some voters would support , for Johnson and co anyway.

Sad to lose his experience and impartial stance as to true democratic process in parliament.

hijaxers 09-09-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10674663)
Good job,he is supposed to be impartial,something he is not :wavey:

I agree so glad he's going.

joeysteele 09-09-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10674712)
modern Speaker is politically impartial and expected to avoid taking a political stance or favouring particular interests over others. To ensure this, the Speaker is expected to resign from their party on appointment*and do not campaign in general elections – usually standing unopposed by the major political parties. However, they are still a serving MP and undertake constituency work.

The role of the Speaker is almost as old as Parliament itself and has evolved significantly over time. Originally the Speaker was the monarch’s de facto representative in Parliament. From the 18th*century onwards, the Speaker gained greater independence, beginning to represent the collective voice of Parliament.

Right, so explain to me what the speaker has done that would would suggest he is not impartial? His job as representative is to speak for the collective in the commons. ..he is, so where's the problem.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...-house-commons

He hasn't let a Con PM get away with bullying, blackmail and threatening dictator like behaviour.

That's why some rabid hard-line Con or hardest brexit supporters think he isn't impartial.

There's no other reason Kizzy.

bots 09-09-2019 05:34 PM

I've never liked Bercow, I think he is a particularly unpleasant man, a bully, and he does further his own agenda, which is bias. He may be fairly neutral in political terms, but that does not mean he is not biased.

UserSince2005 09-09-2019 05:50 PM

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Cherie 09-09-2019 05:53 PM

He always loved the sound of his own voice, and he is a remainer so as a remainer I think it is difficult for him to be impartial, didn't he dig up some thousand year old law to block something or other.... if the speaker was a leaver he wouldn't be impartial either so...they aren't robots so they are bound to be swayed by their own beliefs, be interesting to see who takes his place and what side they come down on!

Kizzy 09-09-2019 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10674765)
I've never liked Bercow, I think he is a particularly unpleasant man, a bully, and he does further his own agenda, which is bias. He may be fairly neutral in political terms, but that does not mean he is not biased.



Yes it does, being politically neutral is exactly what 'not biased' or unbiased means.

He of course is entitled to a personal opinion, which he is free to express when not in his role of speaker

bots 09-09-2019 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10674781)
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Yes it does, being politically neutral is exactly what 'not biased' or unbiased means.

He of course is entitled to a personal opinion, which he is free to express when not in his role of speaker

don't be ridiculous, there are many forms of bias other than political bias

MTVN 09-09-2019 06:23 PM

Started as a good speaker but in the last year or so he's overturned precedent and constitutional norms whenever hes felt like it in order to further his own agenda

Not to mention his massive ego and his history of bullying young staff particularly women

smudgie 09-09-2019 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10674801)
Started as a good speaker but in the last year or so he's overturned precedent and constitutional norms whenever hes felt like it in order to further his own agenda

Not to mention his massive ego and his history of bullying young staff particularly women

Says it all really.

joeysteele 09-09-2019 06:31 PM

If people think him bad.
Betty Boothroyd would have wiped the floor with this government.

Bercow has been a strong speaker.
Who has helped ensure when possible all right and legitimate scrutiny of this deceitful last 2 Prime Ministers and government.

Twosugars 09-09-2019 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10674801)
Started as a good speaker but in the last year or so he's overturned precedent and constitutional norms whenever hes felt like it in order to further his own agenda

Not to mention his massive ego and his history of bullying young staff particularly women

And what would this "own agenda" be?

Twosugars 09-09-2019 07:19 PM

What Gove said about Bercow today


Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, is speaking now. He says Bercow was a tenacious backbencher, and frontbencher too.

He says he has no wish to prematurely truncate Bercow’ role in the chair.

He says he has always appreciated the way Bercow has tried to ensure the executive has been held to account. He says Bercow has acted in the best tradition of Speakers.

He says Bercow has tried to make the executive answerable to the Commons, just as the house is answerable to the people.

The Guardian


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