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arista 26-09-2020 11:25 PM

Man sperm donor :"stunned to discover" he had fathered nine children to Gay couples
 
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Text from BBC:
[Sunday Mirror leads with the story of a sperm donor
who has won compensation from
an IVF clinic after couples mistakenly received
his samples against his will.

The paper says the man was
"stunned to discover" he had fathered
nine children to gay couples,
plus four to heterosexual couples.
He settled on a five-figure sum, the paper says.]

MB. 26-09-2020 11:37 PM

Congrats Marsh :love:

thesheriff443 27-09-2020 12:19 AM

What a wanker.

Shaun 27-09-2020 01:30 AM

Baffling. I suppose when people donate blood (well, straight people, since we're still not allowed) it is now possible to say "please don't give any of this to a hettie, thanks babe x"

Kate! 27-09-2020 01:44 AM

Ridiculous that he's been given this amount of money. Surely if the children are in a loving home that should be what matters tbh. How did he find out anyway? Thought it was always anonymous and private.

Jake. 27-09-2020 01:56 AM

I don’t get why he should have a say where/who the born children end up going to :shrug: He’s literally knocked one out in a cup, it’s not like he’s involved in any way after that.

Kate! 27-09-2020 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 10922324)
I don’t get why he should have a say where/who the born children end up going to :shrug: He’s literally knocked one out in a cup, it’s not like he’s involved in any way after that.

agreed

Swan 27-09-2020 02:16 AM

:facepalm:

Ammi 27-09-2020 04:23 AM

...so he got compensation because the couples were homosexual parents and he didn’t want them to be homosexual parents ...he’d specifically said nooooo/I hadn’t realised that would be a possible choice ..?..Arista, it would have been helpful to post a bit more of the story, rather than just a few front page lines...anyways...those 9 children that he ‘fathered’...and thank you him because it’s meant that 9 couples could have their beautiful, hoped for child...:lovedup:...those 9 beautiful children may all be LGBT children themselves...that’s not something that’s his choice../the sexuality of ‘his children’....wishing a great and loving family life to those 9 children and their parents ...:love:..

Cherie 27-09-2020 08:16 AM

I didn’t realise sperm donors could specify, I always thought it was anonymous

Seems a very strange box to tick at a clinic, but if they offered it as an option it was an easy win for him

The clinics need to review their policies because that is discriminatory

arista 27-09-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10922337)
...so he got compensation because the couples were homosexual parents and he didn’t want them to be homosexual parents ...he’d specifically said nooooo/I hadn’t realised that would be a possible choice ..?..Arista, it would have been helpful to post a bit more of the story, rather than just a few front page lines...anyways...those 9 children that he ‘fathered’...and thank you him because it’s meant that 9 couples could have their beautiful, hoped for child...:lovedup:...those 9 beautiful children may all be LGBT children themselves...that’s not something that’s his choice../the sexuality of ‘his children’....wishing a great and loving family life to those 9 children and their parents ...:love:..


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...after-22748188

Cherie 27-09-2020 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10922371)

It’s a more complex story than the headline suggests isn’t it, not just gays but single mothers as well, how ironic his partner needed so many rounds of IVF which is why he was donating in the first place to get the fees reduced

Oliver_W 27-09-2020 08:29 AM

Why would you need to specify the "man sperm donor", no-one else can produce sperm :joker:

AnnieK 27-09-2020 09:10 AM

When I was going through fertility treatment and looking at the options are various failed cycles one of the options was donor sperm. You are told as much as possible about the donor and can choose to accept or reject on a number of physical and social characteristics so I am guessing if you choose to donate you will be given the choice of which recipients you would like it to go to. However, that seems a massively outdated approach now (its over 10 years since I was going through it). This man should have appreciated the struggles people go through to conceive having lived that life and appreciate the need people have to have a child and recognise that as long as that child is loved and cared for everything else is irrelevant.

bots 27-09-2020 09:15 AM

well obviously it was individual women that gave birth to the babies, not gay couples, so he must have put stipulations on all future adoptive parents, which to me seems a step too far, but i don't know the details

Zizu 27-09-2020 12:03 PM

Shouldn’t be be done for being homophobic and / or sexist ??


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Kizzy 27-09-2020 12:04 PM

Wow. This guy is a piece of work!

Imagine his kids finding him and asking why he felt their family was in some way abnormal?

How ironic that his views have created a lone parent family

Crimson Dynamo 27-09-2020 12:24 PM

I am sure the payout was a load off

Liam- 27-09-2020 12:35 PM

Since when are anonymous donors allowed to dictate where their donation goes? That’s madness

AnnieK 27-09-2020 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10922525)
Since when are anonymous donors allowed to dictate where their donation goes? That’s madness

I've just read up on it and they are not.....there was legislation passed in 2010 as part of the equality act to say that donors cannot specify recipients based on discriminatory reasonings. The clinic should have not accepted him as a donor at all

user104658 27-09-2020 12:40 PM

Daft. If you have strong views about these things... Don't donate sperm. In fact don't donate sperm if you care at all about what's happening with it I guess... Accept that once its in that cup, its not "yours" any more and forget about it :shrug:.

Ammi 27-09-2020 12:42 PM

“It takes a man and a woman to create a child. You can’t argue with millions of years of biology.” said Mr Gaskell


...it doesn’t take a man and a woman to create a loving parent though and a safe home for a child to thrive into adulthood in...

user104658 27-09-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10922528)
I've just read up on it and they are not.....there was legislation passed in 2010 as part of the equality act to say that donors cannot specify recipients based on discriminatory reasonings. The clinic should have not accepted him as a donor at all

Hmmmm given that his sperm has been used in 13 successful IVF treatments (and so one might assume countless more unsuccessful ones) is it possible that he donated before 2010 and that's where the confusion/"mix up" has occurred? E.g. newer staff not realising that "older sperm" might have specifications on the contract because more recent donations don't have the option. You can apparently store for 10+ years.

AnnieK 27-09-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10922530)
“It takes a man and a woman to create a child. You can’t argue with millions of years of biology.” said Mr Gaskell


...it doesn’t take a man and a woman to create a loving parent though and a safe home for a child to thrive into adulthood in...

He had already argued with biology by having medical intervention for his own children too.

He donated the sperm to get cut price treatment from the clinic and then added his own stipulations

user104658 27-09-2020 12:46 PM

I actually do personally have some reservations about surrogacy to be fair - not in all circumstances, but most specifically paid surrogacy. I think in most cases, traditional adoption is the healthier route for all involved. That's a huge and separate debate, though.


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