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arista 13-09-2023 02:51 AM

Epidemic of Shoplifting
 
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BBC News Text:
[In its lead, the Daily Mirror reports
on an "epidemic of shoplifting",
the paper says it is demanding
"tougher laws". It goes on to quote
shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper,
who says:
"This kind of lawlessness is a disgrace."]

Redway 13-09-2023 03:34 AM

Pay people fairly, then. That would be a start.

Oliver_W 13-09-2023 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11328314)
Pay people fairly, then. That would be a start.

On principle I agree but it depends on what sort of things are being stolen. The article says they're exploiting a loophole, not reacting to the rising costs of food.

joeysteele 13-09-2023 07:05 AM

I don't support shoplifting however I do think it needs qualifying as to what is taken.

However there's another shoplifting that infuriates me
That's when you've been in a store the previous day,shelves fully stacked even near closing, then you go in the next morning and some items still on the shelves have then had the price LIFTED by anything from 25p to even over 50p.
I can get that as to new stock but not already purchased currenr shelf stock.

Who is at times really robbing who?

bots 13-09-2023 07:44 AM

i think it's shoplifting on several levels

1. People that can't afford food for their families, which may have some justification

2. People that are just angry at business making money, when they dont have so much

3 Thieves

So, on balance, there is next to no justification for it

Cherie 13-09-2023 08:09 AM

shops are understaffed and their reliance on self service tills is coming back to bite them

arista 13-09-2023 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11328333)
shops are understaffed and their reliance on self service tills is coming back to bite them


Yes, that's the problem,
They saved cash by having less staff

Crimson Dynamo 13-09-2023 09:14 AM


Zizu 13-09-2023 09:21 AM

Sky were saying most of the shop lifting thefts ( especially the more violent ones ) nowadays were connected to organised crime gangs


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arista 13-09-2023 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11328340)
Sky were saying most of the shop lifting thefts ( especially the more violent ones ) nowadays were connected to organised crime gangs


Yes sadly some are
grabbing all the Meat
in a big bag


That's alot of monies worth



Police are not doing enough

thesheriff443 13-09-2023 10:12 AM

Some Tesco express stores have security on the door

Zizu 13-09-2023 10:31 AM

I’d employ thousands of new policemen and flood our towns and Cities


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thesheriff443 13-09-2023 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11328353)
I’d employ thousands of new policemen and flood our towns and Cities


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It’s not that simple

Not enough court hours to hear cases
Not enough prison spaces

user104658 13-09-2023 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11328333)
shops are understaffed and their reliance on self service tills is coming back to bite them

That's the thing though... if the loss in stolen items due to self checkouts is less than the saving of hiring far fewer checkout staff... then it's an absorbable cost and still a good business decision. TBH I assume most of the "big companies" consider a small amount of stock loss to theft to be effectively "wastage" (stock that gets broken in store, stock that goes out of date before being sold etc.).

Speaking of which and off topic but it's just reminded me - last week I bought a pack of Jaffa Cakes from a co-op and when we opened them, they were rock solid. I checked the best before date...

April! April 2023! 5 months out of date??

Redway 13-09-2023 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11328353)
I’d employ thousands of new policemen and flood our towns and Cities


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It’s nowhere near that simple, Z.

Zizu 13-09-2023 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11328514)
It’s nowhere near that simple, Z.


Oh I know .. but we can find millions overnight for PPP equipment or space research or any kind of war ( anybody’s) so why not for more Police to make our country safer


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Redway 14-09-2023 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11328583)
Oh I know .. but we can find millions overnight for PPP equipment or space research or any kind of war ( anybody’s) so why not for more Police to make our country safer


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Yeah but how long is it going to take to train all those millions of new recruits? Why this and not knife-crime prevention?

arista 14-09-2023 02:28 AM

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Livia 14-09-2023 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11328314)
Pay people fairly, then. That would be a start.

Do you have no sympathy for shop workers? For business owners? For all of us who will ultimately pay more as shops' insurances go up?

Liam- 14-09-2023 10:46 AM

The lowest living standards in decades, a cost of living crisis that is squeezing people to their absolute limits and shoplifting has spiked? Some might consider that a coincidence, I do not

Crimson Dynamo 14-09-2023 11:11 AM

Its copycat from the USA

nothing to do with "cost of living"

Oliver_W 14-09-2023 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11328657)
Why this and not knife-crime prevention?

Through things like Stop & Search ?

user104658 14-09-2023 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11328720)
Its copycat from the USA

nothing to do with "cost of living"

Yeah no one ever did no pilferin' over 'ere until we caught WOKEness from those blimmin' yanks!!

user104658 14-09-2023 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11328747)
Through things like Stop & Search ?

The answer to reducing violent crime has always been in tackling social deprivation, not in "taking away the stuff folks do violence with".

bots 14-09-2023 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11328831)
The answer to reducing violent crime has always been in tackling social deprivation, not in "taking away the stuff folks do violence with".

in that case, we may as well hand out guns to everyone :laugh:


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