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Nicky91 23-02-2024 01:43 PM

EBU approves Israel's new changed song ''Hurricane'' replaces ''October Rain''
 
https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/02/22/re...vision/280185/

these are the lyrics

Quote:

Stand with me
Look into my eyes and see
People go away but never say goodbye

Someone stole the moon tonight
Took my light
Everything is black and white
Who’s the fool who told you
Boys don’t cry

Hours and hours and flowers
Life is no game for the cowards
Why does time go wild
Every day I’m loosing my mind
Holding on in this mysterious ride

Dancing in the storm
We got nothing to hide
Take me home
And leave the world behind
And I promise you that never again
I’m still wet from this october rain
October Rain

Living in a fantasy
Ecstasy
Everything’s meant to be
We shall pass but love will never die

Hours and hours and flowers
Life is no game for the cowards
Why does time go wild
Every day I’m loosing my mind
Holding on in this mysterious ride

Dancing in the storm
We got nothing to hide
Take me home
And leave the world behind
And I promise you that never again
I’m still wet from this october rain
October Rain
October Rain

לא נשאר אוויר לנשום
אין מקום
אין אותי מיום ליום
כולם ילדים טובים אחד אחד

(There’s no air left to breath
There’s no space
I’m gone day by day
Everyone is good kids one by one)

*translation of hebrew lyrics

In their report, the paper says the song is performed mostly in English. But the final three lines are in Hebrew and describe the feelings of Israeli civilians during the Hamas attack on October 7.

“There’s no air left to breathe / No place, no me from day to day.”

The “moving and powerful ballad” ends with a softer voice saying, “They were all good children, each one of them.”

Israel Hayom says the English-language verses include these lines:

“Evening/Everything is black and white/Who is the fool/ Who told you boys don’t cry/Hours and hours/ and flowers/Life is not a game for the cowards…/While time goes by/Every day/I’m losing my mind/Holding on.”

That the song references flowers is significant. That’s a slang term that references fallen soldiers from the IDF.

The Israeli broadcaster has made it clear that it will not amend the song to comply with the EBU’s rules. That means it will forgo its chance to participate in the contest, essentially disqualifying itself.

You can read their full statement below.

“After being selected in an orderly process by the professional Committee of the Israel Broadcasting Corporation, the selected song was passed annually for approval by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU).”

“The Israeli Broadcasting Corporation said on Wednesday that “Kan” is in dialogue with the EBU regarding the song that will represent Israel in Eurovision. It should be noted that as far as the Israeli Broadcasting Corporation is concerned there is no intention to replace the song.”

“This means that if it is not approved by the European Broadcasting Union, Israel will not be able to participate in the competition, which will take place in Sweden next May.”


Update: N12 News is reporting that it’s very unlikely that Israel will participate in Eurovision this year. That’s according to sources “privy to the details.” According to their sources, “something extreme” needs to happen to resolve the issue.

According to KAN: “The Minister of Culture and Sports Miki Zohar earlier contacted the President of the European Broadcasting Union and requested that the body approve the Israeli song for Eurovision. In his letter, the minister wrote that Israel is in one of its most complex periods, and that this fact cannot be ignored when choosing a song to represent it in this period.”




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yes

October Rain title already is political enough for EBU to rightfully ban it, obviously all people will refer to October as in October 7th

joeysteele 23-02-2024 02:31 PM

If true, that's ridiculous.

I can't see anything that wrong with those lyrics

In a contest that is rife with political allegiance voting.
It's hypocritical to ban this.
Seems to me a wrong and pathetic over-reaction to a song!!

arista 23-02-2024 02:52 PM

Yes its true was
on GBnewsHD first

Now on all the news

joeysteele 23-02-2024 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11417475)
Yes its true was
on GBnewsHD first

Now on all the news

Absolutely wrong in my view..

Nicky91 23-02-2024 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11417473)
If true, that's ridiculous.

I can't see anything that wrong with those lyrics

In a contest that is rife with political allegiance voting.
It's hypocritical to ban this.
Seems to me a wrong and pathetic over-reaction to a song!!

all about the context behind these lyrics and title

Crimson Dynamo 23-02-2024 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11417494)
all about the context behind these lyrics and title

Do you mean the context behind the lyrics that does not exist?

joeysteele 23-02-2024 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11417494)
all about the context behind these lyrics and title

I can't see anything wrong with the lyrics

Liam- 23-02-2024 04:23 PM

They should have been banned anyway, but if it took a song to get it done then good

Nicky91 23-02-2024 04:32 PM

Asia had them banned much much quicker out of their AFC


who knew it quickly how problematic of a country they are




luckily for them, the UEFA won't ban countries that easily



EBU have a no extreme politics in the songs rule


and no

Ukraine wasn't extreme political in Jamala's 1944, which was more historical content from something longer than 50 years ago


Croatia's Mama SC was more satire, comedic approach at russia's ways


Italy 2018 was an universal anti-terrorism song, not exactly specifically one terror attack highlighted

Mystic Mock 24-02-2024 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11417473)
If true, that's ridiculous.

I can't see anything that wrong with those lyrics

In a contest that is rife with political allegiance voting.
It's hypocritical to ban this.
Seems to me a wrong and pathetic over-reaction to a song!!

Well hasn't Ukraine won Eurovision with two Political entries?

I agree with you Joey that it's ridiculous, and ironically the Eurovision Song Contest getting Political themselves, as they're choosing which Political messages are and aren't okay with being allowed on the Show.

joeysteele 24-02-2024 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11417586)
Well hasn't Ukraine won Eurovision with two Political entries?

I agree with you Joey that it's ridiculous, and ironically the Eurovision Song Contest getting Political themselves, as they're choosing which Political messages are and aren't okay with being allowed on the Show.

I totally agree Mock

Crimson Dynamo 24-02-2024 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11417586)
Well hasn't Ukraine won Eurovision with two Political entries?

I agree with you Joey that it's ridiculous, and ironically the Eurovision Song Contest getting Political themselves, as they're choosing which Political messages are and aren't okay with being allowed on the Show.

100% right Mock

the double standards is astounding

Nicky91 24-02-2024 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11417586)
Well hasn't Ukraine won Eurovision with two Political entries?

I agree with you Joey that it's ridiculous, and ironically the Eurovision Song Contest getting Political themselves, as they're choosing which Political messages are and aren't okay with being allowed on the Show.

No

1944 wasn't political, but more historical content, something what happened like 72 years ago


Stefania would've done well with the televotes even without the war i think, it's that catchy ethnic fun banger anyway (who actually won vidbir in 2022 was more political and the broadcaster themselves banned that entry and had Kalush who ended runner up there going to Turin instead)

Livia 24-02-2024 06:31 PM

You must be very happy, nicky.

joeysteele 24-02-2024 06:36 PM

I'm confused.
That's quite easy to do to confuse me .
The news says it's only being looked at that I've heard
Not that Israel has been already banned from the Contest.

So what is the real story on this.

It will be a disgrace if Israel were barred because of their song.
I see nothing wrong at all with the songs lyrics.

If they're still looking at it then I hope they don't stop Israel competing.
That would be wrong and in my view despicable if they didn't let Israel compete.

This is really ridiculous.

Nicky91 25-02-2024 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11417780)
You must be very happy, nicky.

No

i used to like israel in the contest


2015, 2016 and 2019 especially are fab entries i still listen to


2017 Imri such a fun and lovely guy

Livia 25-02-2024 09:11 AM

Yes... You used to like Israel. Now you want to take the Hamas "freedom fighters" as you call them, somewhere safe so they can have a nice rest.

Nicky91 27-02-2024 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11417861)
Yes... You used to like Israel. Now you want to take the Hamas "freedom fighters" as you call them, somewhere safe so they can have a nice rest.

:nono: don't twist and turn my words though


i defend innocent palestinians, same as how i defend the innocent israeli citizens


those pro-hamas goons are vile

Crimson Dynamo 27-02-2024 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11418410)
:nono: don't twist and turn my words though


i defend innocent palestinians, same as how i defend the innocent israeli citizens


those pro-hamas goons are vile

How many people from Palestine are not pro-hamas?

Nicky91 10-03-2024 04:09 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurric...den_Golan_song)

it's been approved by the EBU under new title Hurricane


also message has been changed to something about a woman with personal growth struggles


:love: :love: so getting my votes in May in the semi, pls qualify instead of our turd Joost

Nicky91 11-03-2024 07:47 AM



:flutter:

emma muscat & mariah carey & kelly clarkson & christina aguilera vibes all over for me with this banger :dance:

Nicky91 11-03-2024 08:42 AM

american idol winner song vibes


such a mega mega mega composition, proof how israeli people are superior above everyone else :worship: :worship:


11.0/10 from me

UserSince2005 11-03-2024 09:25 AM

Truely beautiful song. If this doesn’t touch your heart then you must be a monster. Definitely the winner.

Mystic Mock 11-03-2024 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11418412)
How many people from Palestine are not pro-hamas?

Tbf, I understand them being pro-Hamas way more than people in the west.

Livia 11-03-2024 10:24 AM

Other countries have never had their songs scrutinised as closely as Israel. If I had anything to do with it I'd pull out of the competition and tell them to go **** themselves.


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