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arista 06-06-2024 08:50 PM

Labour will recognise Palestine as a state : in their Manifesto
 
2 Reporters have found out.


Great Was Live Debate on Ian Dale on LBC


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...bour-manifesto



On this Front Page:

DemRed 06-06-2024 10:03 PM

Well that's a very big something, though Netanyahu will now order the IL to stop funding his campaign. It will though, bring about a lot more votes for his party.

Livia 07-06-2024 09:22 AM

Of course he will.

Mystic Mock 07-06-2024 09:24 AM

We'll see about that.

Leaders of Political parties aren't above lying blatantly to their voters, and I do believe that this is one of those moments.

Crimson Dynamo 07-06-2024 09:25 AM

please vote for me muslims

Beso 07-06-2024 09:41 AM

Sitting down with hamas..

Vile bastards.

Cherie 07-06-2024 09:42 AM

Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

Liam- 07-06-2024 10:09 AM

As he should, but unfortunately it’s too late and also not enough

user104658 07-06-2024 10:21 AM

The UK has always favoured a two-state solution, it literally says so on the .gov site.

bots 07-06-2024 10:28 AM

next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour

Beso 07-06-2024 10:29 AM

I give starmer 6 months in office before sadiq takes charge.

arista 07-06-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11462232)
Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

Sadly True

user104658 07-06-2024 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11462240)
next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour

https://www.storypick.com/wp-content...5/02/steve.gif

user104658 07-06-2024 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11462232)
Cynical ploy to win back the Muslim vote

Politics gonna polatick :shrug:

arista 07-06-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11462240)
next week it will be free cola flavoured jaffa cakes for everyone that votes labour


Yes a pack of 10
for each voter

Liam- 07-06-2024 11:16 AM

The assumption that it’s only Muslim voters that are turned off by the attitudes towards Palestine is deeply naive

user104658 07-06-2024 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11462258)
The assumption that it’s only Muslim voters that are turned off by the attitudes towards Palestine is deeply naive

Meh, assumptions are always abound, I seem to have been lumped in as some sort of woke Gen Z for having various opinions that veer from the Gammon Path, when in reality I'm a TERFy greying centrist Xennial hurtling towards middle-age.

No scope for a middle ground these days. If you don't think children should get blown up, you might as well pick up an AK and join Hamas.

arista 07-06-2024 11:34 AM

I can see a Future Front Page
Labour back Hamas

user104658 07-06-2024 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11462264)
I can see a Future Front Page
Labour back Hamas

No paper is going to print that lol, they'll imply it but it would never be a headline.

A TiBB thread, absolutely. "WOKE LEFTIST Labour Back Hamas And Think Oct 7th Was Justified"

joeysteele 07-06-2024 11:38 AM

I've always believed there needs to be the 2 State set up.
That's been talked about for decades but nothing done really significantly.

For me this move, IF it is in the manifesto, for me it's about time and is actually long overdue too.
So I'd welcome it.

arista 07-06-2024 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11462267)
No paper is going to print that lol, they'll imply it but it would never be a headline.

A TiBB thread, absolutely. "WOKE LEFTIST Labour Back Hamas And Think Oct 7th Was Justified"

Yes fair point SB

user104658 07-06-2024 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11462268)
I've always believed there needs to be the 2 State set up.
That's been talked about for decades but nothing done really significantly.

For me this move, IF it is in the manifesto, for me it's about time and is actually long overdue too.
So I'd welcome it.

The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

joeysteele 07-06-2024 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11462273)
The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

I could easily support that too.

Nicky91 07-06-2024 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11462273)
The problem of course will always be Jerusalem. You could divide the land right down the middle but both want the Holy City. Which is why IMO it really needs to be a three-state solution with Jerusalem as an internationally supported, resourced and funded city-state. If it's truly of such high religious significance to all three Abrahamic religions, then it cannot belong to any one of them, without permanent conflict.

make Jerusalem something like vatican city then, with borders around it


:think:


since jerusalem is a holy city, it does not need to be owned by either israel or palestine, or be fought over in a war


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
Quote:

Vatican City is a landlocked sovereign country,[16][17] city-state, microstate, and enclave within Rome, Italy.[18][19] It became independent from Italy in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty, and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity under international law, which maintains the city-state's temporal power and governance, diplomatic, and spiritual independence. The Vatican is also a metonym for the pope, the city-state's and worldwide Catholic Church government Holy See, and Roman Curia
so let jerusalem be independent and owned by some holy leadership and make it forbidden to fight over there from both israeli and palestinian forces, one place of religious neutrality would do that conflict some good i think

Beso 07-06-2024 12:56 PM

The palestinians are angry at the Israelis because they think Jerusalem is theirs, and vice versa. To think either would allow a 3rd party to take control of it is a ridiculous notion.


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