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Vanessa 02-08-2024 01:06 PM

What are your thoughts on our multicultural society?
 
Do you think it works?
I've always been in favour of it.
But in recent events I've started to wonder if it's really possible for different cultures to coexist peacefully.
Immigration definitely needs to be regulated. Unchecked leads to trouble, i think.

bots 02-08-2024 01:07 PM

love it

GiRTh 02-08-2024 01:11 PM

We've had a multicultural society for almost 70 years. ITs had its ups and downs

Liam- 02-08-2024 01:11 PM

Necessary and right

Ninastar 02-08-2024 01:12 PM

I love being in multicultural places. I like learning about different ppls backgrounds. I’ve noticed that most people who are ‘foreign’ tend to be way more open minded than those who have never left their own country

Benjamin 02-08-2024 01:19 PM

I love it. I love learning about other cultures and seeing so many in one place.

Beso 02-08-2024 01:24 PM

I've met many friends I wouldnt have if it wernt..so it's a good thing.

Ammi 02-08-2024 01:25 PM

…well, being part of a large extended family that’s very layered and textured in different cultures and can help to see many perspectives…/…positive and negative life experiences shared etc…

user104658 02-08-2024 01:25 PM

There are cultural issues in every culture and being totally against multiculturalism suggests a blindness to the issues in one's own culture.


Or in other words... yes there are cultural challenges that are imported... but there are also plenty of social and cultural problems that are entirely home-grown. There isn't just one "UK culture". It simply doesn't exist. We have massive social, class and culture differences all across the UK that have nothing to do with immigration at all.

The solutions need to be better thought out and geared towards people being able to live together no matter their cultural differences... not kicking the can down the road and pretending that if we don't "let certain folks in" then there will be no cultural clashes or issues.

Tag along to an Old Firm game or two if you want to see a swathe of very white very British men still managing to have a "culture clash".

GoldHeart 02-08-2024 01:45 PM

The issue is far more complicated than that. Multiculturalism on its own isn't the problem... there's so much good that's come from it, think how many of us are from different heritages & ethnicity and cultures that have mixed together and become a positive community.

Britain is very diverse, it has adopted many religions, cultures & been introduced to many customs. Even food & cuisine here in the UK is probably the most enriched with so much variety, people are broadening their minds and learning new languages...which is a skill I always wish I had...to speak various languages.

The problem we're seeing is... A wave of people not respecting or caring about the law or values we have here in the UK . Whether that's because they're basing their botched morals on their own country & culture which are usually very problematic, some of them don't want to integrate ....and instead keep themselves to themselves.

Unfortunately there's also tension within different communities, politics etc .

Some just want to take advantage , it doesn't help that
the previous government badly handled the whole
immigration situation. This current government still
hasn't got a clue . Their answer is to just let everyone in the country with limited safety checks, They're not questioning the agenda of some of the people or if they're a danger.

But if anyone genuinely questions it they're called "xenophobic " and "racist" , I think it's a fair question to ask and have concerns. But like I said that's not to say every person from overseas or from a different background has ill intentions . This is where the waters get muddied between genuine arguments to then being accused of not wanting anyone to enter the country etc, words get twisted which helps nobody of course.

Zizu 02-08-2024 01:57 PM

I love foreigners.. in fact its so refreshing to be surrounded by people from all manner of countries when we go to holiday in Greece …

The problem we have had for decades is more and more immigrants arriving but NOT integrating ..

So we found ourselves being overcrowded with all services overstretching and huge pockets of different nationalities/ beliefs with nobody interaction or getting on .

Then just as things couldn’t get any worse we started getting hundreds of thousands of fighting age males coming in illegally by boat every year !!

We are considering escaping sometime in the next 6 months or so - sooner if all out turf wars or violent rioting starts to occur


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smudgie 02-08-2024 01:58 PM

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It’s brilliant.
You will always get ups and downs, but we benefit so much from it all.

Cherie 02-08-2024 02:06 PM

I love it, it was one of the things I loved about London when I arrived off the boat....literally :laugh: That said I think there are many areas of London and other big cities that are no longer multi but one culture, and you can feel a bit of an outsider, and that it not to say this didn't always happen like the Irish always lived in similar places in London and you have places like the Italian quarter and the French quarter and Little Italy but obviously and we cant shy away from it mass immigration into Europe is a problem and I have no idea how it can be stopped. 20 years ago you had a melting pot now you have loads of young men put up in hotels with no hope and nothing to do, and someone making a fortune from it, its not right

Vanessa 02-08-2024 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11486983)
I love it, it was one of the things I loved about London when I arrived off the boat....literally :laugh: That said I think there are many areas of London and other big cities that are no longer multi but one culture, and you can feel a bit of an outsider, and that it not to say this didn't always happen like the Irish always lived in similar places in London and you have places like the Italian quarter and the French quarter and Little Italy but obviously and we cant shy away from it mass immigration into Europe is a problem and I have no idea how it can be stopped. 20 years ago you had a melting pot now you have loads of young men put up in hotels with no hope and nothing to do, and someone making a fortune from it, its not right

Yes they don't work, so they're free to roam the streets with their machetes.
It shouldn't be allowed.

Oliver_W 02-08-2024 02:13 PM

I honestly don't have strong feelings about it either way. I don't see it as good or bad.

Cherie 02-08-2024 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11486984)
Yes they don't work, so they're free to roam the streets with their machetes.
It shouldn't be allowed.

I don't think the people who roam the streets with machetes are being put up in hotels, they are generally part of gangs, born and bred in Britain

Vanessa 02-08-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11486988)
I don't think the people who roam the streets with machetes are being put up in hotels, they are generally part of gangs, born and bred in Britain

That's even worse :skull:

Glenn. 02-08-2024 02:18 PM

Can’t think of any reason why anyone would be against it?

joeysteele 02-08-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11486979)
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It’s brilliant.
You will always get ups and downs, but we benefit so much from it all.

This.
Just sums it up for me too..

user104658 02-08-2024 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11486978)
I love foreigners.. in fact its so refreshing to be surrounded by people from all manner of countries when we go to holiday in Greece …

The problem we have had for decades is more and more immigrants arriving but NOT integrating ..

So we found ourselves being overcrowded with all services overstretching and huge pockets of different nationalities/ beliefs with nobody interaction or getting on .

Then just as things couldn’t get any worse we started getting hundreds of thousands of fighting age males coming in illegally by boat every year !!

We are considering escaping sometime in the next 6 months or so - sooner if all out turf wars or violent rioting starts to occur


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That issue is two-pronged though - yes, there are issues with a lack of integration, but it's difficult (or impossible) for migrant populations to successfully integrate if they don't feel welcomed, and that's in sad decline.

You'll also find that 2nd/3rd generation migrants and beyond are far better intrgrated than their parents and grandparents. It takes time and mutual understanding. People are less and less willing to offer that.

Livia 02-08-2024 02:29 PM

I have no problem with it. However some places aren't multicultural anymore. It's better when people try to mix, but some people have no intention of mixing and instead their own communities take over whole areas. If you haven't lived somewhere that's changed beyond all recognition, you won't understand.

user104658 02-08-2024 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11486998)
I have no problem with it. However some places aren't multicultural anymore. It's better when people try to mix, but some people have no intention of mixing and instead their own communities take over whole areas. If you haven't lived somewhere that's changed beyond all recognition, you won't understand.

The thing is again though this genuinely happens without any immigration at all, if you live in sleepy/small villages that start to become "gentrified" with city-commuting professionals etc.

You should see the local facebook groups around here. All-out war between "born and bred locals" and people who have moved into the area. And we're not talking immigrants or ghettoisation here - we're talking 4-and-5-bedroom homes with young families and still 99% white British.

Locals "who have been here for generations" do not like it at all.

We thought my wife was experiencing a racism from the elderly dad of a neighbour because she's from England -- but no -- apparently even being Scottish isn't good enough and he branded me an "interloper" as well because I grew up a 1.5 hour drive away :joker:.

Zizu 02-08-2024 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 11486939)
I love being in multicultural places. I like learning about different ppls backgrounds. I’ve noticed that most people who are ‘foreign’ tend to be way more open minded than those who have never left their own country


There is the proviso that the vast majority of serious/violent crimes and atrocities are perpetrated by non British…


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user104658 02-08-2024 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11487008)
the vast majority of serious/violent crimes and atrocities are perpetrated by non British

I mean that's simply entirely false.

Zizu 02-08-2024 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11486988)
I don't think the people who roam the streets with machetes are being put up in hotels, they are generally part of gangs, born and bred in Britain


Mmmm I’m not so sure about that .. how did you come to that conclusion ?

The footage we’ve seen over the last few months have shown crazy guys running around slashing with machetes screaming in foreign languages


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