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Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 09:59 PM

Getting a warning off BB over a joke.
 
We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

Benjamin 07-11-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562872)
We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

I weirdly think if the vote to win opens tomorrow both Hanah and Sarah would get a few extra votes from both sides of the camp over this.

Jordan. 07-11-2024 10:05 PM

The comment directly offended a group of people in the house, why would they ignore it?

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11562887)
The comment directly offended a group of people in the house, why would they ignore it?

So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

UserSince2005 07-11-2024 10:11 PM

Those 3 are everything wrong with this country

FromBB8 07-11-2024 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562872)
We really are in a sensitive society when a Big Brother Housemate is getting a warning over a joke.

I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

And I really can't wait for Hanah to face the public vote next time.

It wasn't Stop the Gloats which she was told off for. It was freely admitting it's links to "Stop the Boats" which is a sensitive subject for many, due to the way it has been picked up by the political right. It has additional connotations which those of minority background (some, not all) may feel offended by. I can understand why it upset whilst I can also accept that Sarah didn't mean it to offend.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11562901)
Those 3 are everything wrong with this country

I hope that you're not meaning it in a certain way?

Because I'm annoyed at BB more than anything, although Hanah running into the Diary Room moaning to BB about Sarah probably didn't help.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11562912)
It wasn't Stop the Gloats which she was told off for. It was freely admitting it's links to "Stop the Boats" which is a sensitive subject for many, due to the way it has been picked up by the political right. It has additional connotations which those of minority background (some, not all) may feel offended by. I can understand why it upset whilst I can also accept that Sarah didn't mean it to offend.

I have no issues with anyone (public included) feeling offended or not liking the joke.

What I don't like is BB giving her a warning over it, if Sarah wants to make controversial comments then let her.

I used to think this when Rex complained to BB over Alexandra's "Pow! Pow!" comment during BB9.

It's meant to be a social experiment, not a sanitized Disney production.

Jordan. 07-11-2024 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562891)
So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

BB has never given housemates free reign to be as offensive as they want, especially after the race row.

UserSince2005 07-11-2024 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562916)
I hope that you're not meaning it in a certain way?

Because I'm annoyed at BB more than anything, although Hanah running into the Diary Room moaning to BB about Sarah probably didn't help.

We need more kemi badenocks and less whiney, low inteligent, low skilled, losers who’s only talent is playing the victim to scrounge every last penny off the great British public.

GlitterUK 07-11-2024 10:28 PM

Has the actual footage been shown when she actually said it? Did anyone pick up on it then? Or has BB just picked the task and gloats comment to create a storm before the final week?

What Sarah said has offended people. So I think BB were right to warn her....however Lily's screaming has also offended Sarah and they have done nothing.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11562923)
BB has never given housemates free reign to be as offensive as they want, especially after the race row.

Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

Jordan. 07-11-2024 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562928)
Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

Easy to say when you aren't the target of the joke.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11562924)
We need more kemi badenocks and less whiney, low inteligent, low skilled, losers who’s only talent is playing the victim to scrounge every last penny off the great British public.

Tbf the three that you've mentioned are still quite young, you don't know what they might end up contributing to society.

In particular Khaled and Segun both sound ambitious with what they want to do for society.

I admittedly don't know what Hanah wants to do.

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11562931)
Easy to say when you aren't the target of the joke.

Even if I was, Sarah's allowed to tell a joke.

Are we seriously so lost as a society that people are seriously going to defend BB for warning a Housemate over a controversial joke?

Years ago everyone would've rightly condemned BB for being so stupid.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562928)
Jokes are allowed Jordan, even unpopular ones.

BB got it wrong on this one.

You can see how Hanah would be offended though, this imo is justified unlike Dean's ridiculous accusation towards Marcello. And it proves if Marcello ever said anything offensive, he also would have been given a warning . So weirdly this has cleared Marcello's name aswell lol .

I'm not getting into the whole immigration thing...as I agree about her copying a slogan,but how it was in bad taste ,but it's clearly very sensitive to people, especially those affected ...and Sarah didn't think ie
foot in mouth ,as the comment was aimed at Hanah/ Hanah's group.

Hence Hanah taking it personally. Plus Hanah half joked " is it because we're all coloured" &
Sarah joked back " yes ". It felt so cringe . As Sarah mixed up the comments & situations anyway.

Then they mentioned Thomas being part of the group, and Emma made a Casper joke . It's such a spectacular misunderstanding.

I think Sarah has spent too much time with Nathan,hence why she said it was a" word on play ".

Mystic Mock 07-11-2024 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11562954)
You can see how Hanah would be offended though, this imo is justified unlike Dean's ridiculous accusation towards Marcello. And it proves if Marcello ever said anything offensive, he also would have been given a warning . So weirdly this has cleared Marcello's name aswell lol .

I'm not getting into the whole immigration thing...as I agree about her copying a slogan,but how it was in bad taste ,but it's clearly very sensitive to people, especially those affected ...and Sarah didn't think ie
foot in mouth ,as the comment was aimed at Hanah/ Hanah's group.

Hence Hanah taking it personally. Plus Hanah half joked " is it because we're all coloured" &
Sarah joked back " yes ". It felt so cringe . As Sarah mixed up the comments & situations anyway.

Then they mentioned Thomas being part of the group, and Emma made a Casper joke . It's such a spectacular misunderstanding.

I think Sarah has spent too much time with Nathan,hence why she said it was a" word on play ".

I understand Hanah being offended, I don't get why she was moaning to BB in the Diary Room about it though,why not just confront Sarah about not liking the joke? It's like she wanted BB to intervene which I'm not a fan of.

GlitterUK 07-11-2024 10:58 PM

I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

FromBB8 07-11-2024 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562962)
I understand Hanah being offended, I don't get why she was moaning to BB in the Diary Room about it though,why not just confront Sarah about not liking the joke? It's like she wanted BB to intervene which I'm not a fan of.

I do wonder whether BB called Hanah to the Diary Room to gauge her opinion.

Jordan. 07-11-2024 11:00 PM

She said in the show why she wouldn't confront Sarah over the comment and she was 100% correct in her reasoning.

Benjamin 07-11-2024 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11562968)
I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

Oh she absolutely will apologise and she’ll feel like **** for it too. She meant no ill intent and you can tell she’s the kind of person who will take it badly.

vesavius 07-11-2024 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11562968)
I think the opposite Hanah dealt with it well. She could have kicked off and created a bigger stink. This way BB had a quiet word. Be interesting to see if we see Sarah apologise in the next show or anything.

She knows the ability to play the racist card is the ultimate power in BB and no further noise is required. Acting offended is enough.

Hanah isn't stupid. She understands how this works.

GoldHeart 07-11-2024 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562962)
I understand Hanah being offended, I don't get why she was moaning to BB in the Diary Room about it though,why not just confront Sarah about not liking the joke? It's like she wanted BB to intervene which I'm not a fan of.

Well they all go to the Dr when something is bothering them . She also spoke to Segun about it. But yeah she probably should have confronted Sarah ,but I think she was trying to initially laugh it off ,but it seemed to really upset her deep down.

Well a warning is a warning, it's not like BB kicked her out . Which has happened in the c5 days ... sometimes we didn't even get shown the reason. Remember Lewis F
,we never knew what he did to get removed.

Redway 07-11-2024 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562891)
So what if a bunch of Housemates get offended?

They can always nominate her next time if they don't like the comment, that's the aim of Big Brother.

It’s different when there are racial connotations, though, Mock. I don’t think Sarah intended to come across that way and it really is most-likely what she says it is but I really don’t think you can expect Sarah not to get a talking to for making a comment that could potentially be seen as offensive, whether that’s how she meant it or not. We all have the capacity to offend people and no-one’s above a talking-to about it.

vesavius 07-11-2024 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11562872)
I don't care if people like the joke or not, the intent from Sarah wasn't malicious so therefore BB should not be intervening and policing what a Housemate can and cannot say.

We are soooo many years past this point that it's but a distant dream.


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