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Red Moon 26-10-2008 08:06 AM

Sachs\' granddaughter Georgina Baillie to speak about Ross-Brand row on Five (And other new Stories added to thread)
 
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Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross could face prosecution after obscene on air phone calls to Fawlty Towers actor, 78
The BBC could face prosecution over obscene phone calls that Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand made to 78-year-old Fawlty Towers actor Andrew Sachs.

The controversial presenters left a series of lewd messages on Mr Sachs’s answerphone claiming, in shockingly explicit language, that Brand had had sex with his granddaughter, Georgina.

Mr Sachs, who played waiter Manuel in the classic sitcom, was left deeply upset by the crude calls – which were also broadcast to about two million listeners to Brand’s Radio 2 show. And Georgina’s distraught mother, Kate, said last night: ‘It’s awful.’

Astonishingly, senior BBC executives cleared the offensive messages for broadcast, even though making abusive phone calls is a criminal offence.

Last night, the Corporation faced calls for disciplinary action to be taken against their highly-paid stars, with one Tory MP saying they had ‘overstepped the mark’.

Mr Sachs’s agent said his client had been ‘terribly hurt’ by the comments and had made a formal complaint to the BBC.

The calls about his granddaughter were made during an episode of Brand’s Saturday night Radio 2 programme, co-hosted by Ross to help publicise his new book.

Shortly before they contacted Mr Sachs for a pre-arranged telephone interview, Brand said: ‘In a minute we’re going to be talking to Andrew Sachs, Manuel actor. The elephant in the room is, what Andrew doesn’t know is, I’ve slept with his granddaughter.’

The comedian then rang Mr Sachs. When the veteran actor didn’t answer his telephone, Brand left a message during which Ross shouted ‘He ****** your granddaughter!’, generating raucous laughter from the studio.

Ross subsequently speculated that Brand had ‘enjoyed’ Georgina on a swing. The pair then decided to ring Mr Sachs again to apologise. When he repeatedly failed to answer, Ross and Brand left three further messages, making the situation worse.

During one message, Brand said: ‘I wore a condom.’ In another, which took the form of an impromptu song, Brand sang: ‘I’d like to apologise for the terrible attacks, Andrew Sachs . . . I said some things I didn’t of oughta, like I had sex with your granddaughter, though it was consensual . . . it was consensual lovely sex. It was full of respect, I sent her a text, I’ve asked her to marry me, Andrew Sachs.’

Ross could be heard singing quietly to himself: ‘Your granddaughter ...she was bent over the couch...’

Later in the programme Brand even joked about the idea that Mr Sachs might consider suicide as a result of their comments.

Imagining a news bulletin, he said: ‘The main news again. Manuel Andrew Sachs hung himself today...’

Brand’s show sometimes goes out live, but the offending episode was prerecorded to fit around Brand and Ross’s other commitments. According to the BBC, ‘a senior editorial figure signed off the programme, including its strong language, before it was broadcast’.

The show, which aired between 9pm and 11pm on October 18, remained on the BBC’s iPlayer website last week, where listeners could hear it again.

Ross, 47, and Brand, 33, are among the BBC’s highest-paid stars. Ross
is paid £6million a year for his TV chat show, Radio 2 show and film review programme, while Brand is thought to be paid a six-figure sum for his weekly radio show.

The pair, who are close friends, are notorious for their use of swear words and have courted controversy throughout their careers. In 2006 Ross caused a storm by asking Conservative leader David Cameron if he had ever had teenage sexual fantasies about former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher ‘in stockings’ and referring to a lewd act.

Brand, who once dated Kate Moss, caused outrage in July for making a prank call to Northamptonshire Police, claiming he had spotted a sex attacker. And in 2006, he became embroiled in a public row with Rod Stewart after boasting at an awards ceremony that he had slept with the rocker’s daughter, Kimberly.

During the Radio 2 show in which they offended Mr Sachs, both men also discussed what it would be like to have sex with actress Helen Mirren.

Ross also appeared to breach the terms of his lucrative BBC contract by indicating his support for Labour. He said: ‘I like him [Gordon Brown]. If I could say where I’m going to vote, I’d vote for them. But I can’t say where I’m voting because I’m forbidden by my BBC contract.’

Mr Sachs, who was born in Germany but emigrated to Britain in 1938 to escape the Nazi persecution of Jews, still works regularly on TV and radio, including Radio 4’s spiritual programme Something Understood.

A spokesman for the actor said: ‘Andrew is deeply upset by this and terribly hurt. He can’t understand why it happened and was particularly sorry that they kept leaving messages on his answerphone.’

Last night, Kate said her 23-year-old daughter did not want to comment.

A BBC spokesman said: ‘Two complaints were received regarding Russell Brand’s show on October 18.’ But he would not reveal their content, saying that they were for ‘internal use’.

He added: ‘We are not aware of any complaint being made by
Mr Sachs.’

Anyone found guilty of making malicious or abusive phone calls can be fined or sentenced to up to six months in prison, although a Scotland Yard spokesman said there was no record of Mr Sachs filing a complaint.

Tory MP Philip Davies said: ‘I know Jonathan Ross has been handsomely rewarded by the BBC for being rude, inappropriate and as vile as possible, but I would hope that even the BBC would accept he’s overstepped the mark this time.

‘In any other walk of life, anyone who did this type of thing would face serious disciplinary proceedings.

I hope the BBC will consider what consequences there may be if they don’t take him to task for this.’

Last night, Brand, clearly worried about the listener backlash against his phone calls, made a sniggering, mealy-mouthed apology on his show.

He said: ‘It was quite funny, but sometimes you mustn’t swear on someone’s answerphone, and that’s why I’d like to apologise personally.’

But he then replayed the most offensive of last week’s calls, and said: ‘It might not be popular, with its barbershop style, but on the other hand I did rhyme “consensual” with “menstrual”.’

Brand’s spokesman said they had nothing to add to the BBC’s comments, while Jonathan Ross’s agent did not return calls.
Source: Daily Mail

M X 26-10-2008 11:45 AM

Omg. :shocked:

Mrluvaluva 26-10-2008 11:53 AM

Russell Brand in trouble again.

Lauren 26-10-2008 12:31 PM

Whenever you hear/see shows like this you always assume the person they rang at least had prior knowledge they were gonna be on the show?!

Magic 26-10-2008 08:12 PM

Hmm.. dont know what to think on this.
Was a bit harsh.

MrCleversmith 28-10-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Magic
Hmm.. dont know what to think on this.
Was a bit harsh.
"Lets leave it to the cat to decide"

Cats have 9 lives.

Russell has 1 life.

*Oh dear*

*Look what th cat dragged in*

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ford/Andor.jpg

noahman 28-10-2008 09:20 PM

Leave russell and Jonathan alone

MrCleversmith 28-10-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by noahman
Leave russell and Jonathan alone
I doubt many will leave either of them alone while all this is going on.

They brought it on themselves.

Dont be too upset though, they will probably wriggle out of this one.

thats *2 worms*

JOSHUAH! 28-10-2008 09:39 PM

I think its scandalous how they are both paid like £10million pounds then they go and make phone calls which upset a 78 Year old man.

They should both be sacked, especially Jonathan Ross

MrCleversmith 28-10-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I think its scandalous how they are both paid like £10million pounds then they go and make phone calls which upset a 78 Year old man.

They should both be sacked, especially Jonathan Ross
Basil Fawlty should sort it out.

Red Moon 29-10-2008 10:57 AM

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Brand and Ross suspended by BBC
Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand are to be suspended and all their shows taken off air until the BBC has investigated their prank calls made on Radio 2.

The news was announced in a statement by director general Mark Thompson.

Meanwhile, Georgina Baillie has told the Sun that Ross and Brand should be sacked over the calls made to her grandfather, actor Andrew Sachs.

Friday's edition of Ross's chat show, due to feature guests Frank Skinner and Miley Cyrus, has been cancelled.

Brand and Ross made a series of prank calls to Sachs, 78, famous for his part in Fawlty Towers. The calls were broadcast on Radio 2 as part of a Russell Brand's pre-recorded Saturday night show on 18 October.

During the calls, Ross swore and said Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter.

More than 18,000 people have complained to the BBC.

Mr Thompson said he would be returning from a holiday and would "in the coming days, announce what action we will take".

"Since Sunday, I have been in regular contact with the senior executives I tasked with handling this issue," he said.

"In the meantime, I have decided that it is not appropriate for either Russell Brand or Jonathan Ross to continue broadcasting on the BBC until I have seen the full report of the actions of all concerned.

"This gross lapse of taste by the performers and the production team has angered licence payers."

He added his "own personal and unreserved apology to Andrew Sachs, his family and to licence fee payers for the completely unacceptable broadcast".

Meanwhile, Ms Baillie, 23, told the Sun the pair should "pay for what they've done with their jobs".

She said her grandfather was "really upset and says he wants the whole situation to end".

"What's funny about humiliating a lovely old man who has never harmed anyone in his life?" she added.

She said Brand and Ross were "beyond contempt".

"It was bad enough that they recorded these things on my grandfather's answer machine but astonishing the BBC saw fit to broadcast it when they could have stopped it.

"Someone high up at the BBC must have decided it was funny and suitable for national radio. They've shown an appalling lack of judgement."

On Tuesday afternoon, Sachs told the BBC that Ross had "personally delivered a letter of apology and some flowers" since the broadcast.

He has not "heard anything" from Brand, the actor added.

Conservative shadow culture secretary Jeremy Hunt said in a speech to the London School of Economics on Wednesday that it was "wrong for broadcasters to produce programmes that legitimise negative social behaviour".

He told BBC News the corporation's reaction to the affair was "concerning".

"We still don't know who gave permission for that broadcast to go out.

"It looks like it broke the broadcasting code about not doing things that are offensive and not doing things that breach people's privacy."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has also criticised the pair for their "inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour" on Brand's radio show.

He is also expected to face questions from MPs over the affair in prime minister's questions later.

BBC News website readers can follow prime minister's questions live on the BBC News website.
Source: BBC

Callum 29-10-2008 10:58 AM

BBC suspends Russel Brand and Johnathon Ross
 
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The BBC has suspended Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross pending the outcome of an internal investigation into the pair's prank phone calls to Fawlty Towers star Andrew Sachs.

All programmes presented by Brand and Ross have been pulled from BBC radio and television. In a statement, BBC director general Mark Thompson said:

"I would like to add my own personal and unreserved apology to Andrew Sachs, his family and to licence fee payers for the completely unacceptable broadcast on BBC Radio 2.

"BBC audiences accept that, in comedy, performers attempt to push the line of taste. However, this is not a marginal case. It is clear from the views expressed by the public that this broadcast has caused severe offence and I share that view.

"Since Sunday, I have been in regular contact with the senior executives I tasked with handling this issue. The investigation that I instructed Tim Davie to conduct is nearing completion, and I am returning to London to review the findings and, in the coming days, announce what action we will take.

"In the meantime, I have decided that it is not appropriate for either Russell Brand or Jonathan Ross to continue broadcasting on the BBC until I have seen the full report of the actions of all concerned.

"This gross lapse of taste by the performers and the production team has angered licence payers. I am determined that we satisfy them that any lessons will be learnt and appropriate action taken. I have been asked to report to the Trust's Editorial Standards Committee before the end of this week and will discuss with the Trust the findings of the report and the actions I propose."

18,000 complaints have been lodged with the BBC about the October 18 edition of Brand's programme on Radio 2, during which a pre-recorded segment of Brand and Ross leaving expletive-laden messages on the voicemail of Sachs' mobile phone was broadcast.
Source: Digital Spy

Sam! 29-10-2008 11:01 AM

Already posted but in a thread already about this :)

Benjamin 29-10-2008 11:01 AM

Ohhhh Ross & Band won't wriggle out of this one easily. This could end their career.

Tom 29-10-2008 11:05 AM

Its all been blown out of proportion. 2 people complained, the media reported it and suddenly everyone jumps on the bandwagon. I'd be surprised if more than 5% of those who complained even heard the show.

Spike 29-10-2008 11:07 AM

Its pathetic
It reminds me of the CBB race row, it been blown out of proportion and people have just complained because others have

Red Moon 29-10-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by ukturtle
Ohhhh Ross & Band won't wriggle out of this one easily. This could end their career.
I think Ross will get out of it with a wrist slapping as he has already said sorry personally, and in any case the BBC won't want to lose him to ITV.

Brand however will be heading back to Channel 4, because this is the end of him on the BBC for a long long while. He hasn't even said sorry in a sensible grown up way.

As for the PM getting involved, you would with the credit crunch and all he and the other members of the Government would have better things to do with there time.

Deirdre 29-10-2008 11:37 AM

Noooo!
Now I can't see Miley Cyrus on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross:bawling:

Matt08 29-10-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by patheticfool
Noooo!
Now I can't see Miley Cyrus on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross:bawling:
Unless the show has already been pre-recorded.

Corkie 29-10-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by patheticfool
Noooo!
Now I can't see Miley Cyrus on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross:bawling:
Ohhh yeah, it looked like a good episode on Friday. Urghhh. Totally gone over board I think as did the joke.

I just hope this stupid suspension is lifted soon.

The joke might have gone to far but it is Russel Brand and Jonathan Ross thats what they bast their comedy on. Controversy.

Spike 29-10-2008 11:45 AM

Jonathan Ross Show has been cancelled for Friday
A little OTT by the BBC

Red Moon 29-10-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Matt08
Unless the show has already been pre-recorded.
It said in the BBC article that the show has been cancelled, so even it is pre-recorded it won't be shown.

Dan_ 29-10-2008 11:52 AM

I think this has been taken all a bit too seriously.I know what they said was out of order but it really wasn't befitting of all the coverage it's got, now the suspension.

NettoSuperstar! 29-10-2008 11:58 AM

Its abit ott maybe they should have been docked wages. Ive listened to the phone call and they were trying to apologise then but they got a bit carried away, silly really. But the bosses shouldnt have aired it, it wasnt live. Hey ho I think theyre careers are safe mind

Spike 29-10-2008 11:59 AM

C4 and ITV have made Jonathan Ross an offer incase he is sacked so it wont be affecting his career


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