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Kopper2k5 05-07-2005 09:12 PM

'scam'
 
was just on another bb site and they seem to be convinced endemol have sumthin for maxwell and r gonna keep him in no matter what, some ppl just cant get over the fact that hes as popular as som of the other housemates :nono:

Kore 05-07-2005 09:13 PM

yeah people cant take the fact hes more entertaining than the rest.

Kopper2k5 05-07-2005 09:18 PM

on the website sum1 said there has been 5000 and 10000 been put on science to go :conf:

Slartibartfast 05-07-2005 09:36 PM

A lot of people on this site have said the same about Channel4 editing of Maxwell. If there's a lot on another thread saying the same, is the logical conclusion not that it may be true then?

IMO, it's quite clear that BB want Max and Makosi in final 4, to ensure plenty of votes for the final week. They've seen the divisions they cause and the biased and blinkered arguing on the websites, phone-ins etc, etc and if they can keep these two controversial characters in then they can cash in on them big time when it comes to voting.

Amy 05-07-2005 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Kopper2k5
was just on another bb site and they seem to be convinced endemol have sumthin for maxwell and r going to keep him in no matter what, some people just cant get over the fact that hes as popular as som of the other housemates :nono:
Shall I explain whats going on here? Well I will! What's happening is people that don't like certain housemates start a thread slagging them off so the people that do like housemates start another thread about how much they like them and so it begins and goes around and round in circles.

Slartibartfast 05-07-2005 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Amy

Shall I explain whats going on here? Well I will! What's happening is people that don't like certain housemates start a thread slagging them off so the people that do like housemates start another thread about how much they like them and so it begins and goes around and round in circles.
Thats a nice rational explanation but I prefer my conspiracy idea. Conspiracies are always a bit juicier!!

Red Moon 05-07-2005 09:49 PM

I agree Amy how many hate thread, x to win threads etc..... have we had here? And how many moles have we had so far?

Amy 05-07-2005 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast
IMO, it's quite clear that BB want Max and Makosi in final 4, to ensure plenty of votes for the final week.
I'd agree with that! Mak and Max are two strong popular housemates so will surely bring in a fair lot of money in a final.

AndyJK 05-07-2005 10:10 PM

What, you mean Big Brother is editing the highlights to put Maxwell in a positive light?! I can't see the appeal, personally. He's the in-yer-face type invading your body space. He is also lazy, aggressive, looks like a caveman and he gives English people a bad name.

But yes, he can be amusing sometimes and he does wind up the other housemates, so on that basis he deserves to beat Science who doesnt talk, he just raps all the time. A novel idea that wore off after day 1.

SMC 05-07-2005 10:12 PM

Maxwell doesn't give English people a bad name at all..

Sticks 05-07-2005 10:22 PM

I am still sitting this out

Which is odd, but other things came up this year, like church activities and also we are looking after corporate clients this year :rolleyes:

It is suspected that C4 / Endemol do this often

BB3, the chosen one was Alex
BB5 the chosen one was Nadia

Nothing new under the Sun

Now I better go before the CDAG finds me here :shocked:

selfinflicted 05-07-2005 10:24 PM

Why does maxwell give english people a bad name?? Explain that absurd statement please.

AndyJK 05-07-2005 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by selfinflicted
Why does maxwell give english people a bad name?? Explain that absurd statement please.
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Originally posted by SMC
Maxwell doesn't give English people a bad name at all..
Because he is stupid and a fool. In the beauty contest task his aspirations in life are going down a pub and getting drunk. How novel. :bored:

sandrabb 05-07-2005 11:00 PM

maxwell is a gimp:mad::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Kore 05-07-2005 11:08 PM

maxwell 2 win!!!! :bouncy::bouncy::dance::dance::dance:

nyameko 05-07-2005 11:10 PM

scam
 
May be maxwell :devil: was out last week but may b they decided that Saskia should go

GlitterEyes 05-07-2005 11:27 PM

Maxwell to stay in, science out!

Slartibartfast 07-07-2005 11:20 AM

I'm still convinced that BB edit to show certain housemates in a good light, Maxwell being their main favourite.

Last nights show confirmed my suspicions even further. Why did we not get to see Maxwell taunting Eugene before the nominations were being announced about what it's going to be like to be up for nominations and what would he miss from the house, etc, etc. Instead, we only hear Orlaith relating it back to the girls. That way we only see the girls talking about it, which just then appears to the viewing public to be more bitching from this lot. It would have much more impact if we had seen Maxwell's nasty, smug little face winding up Eugene. But oh no, BB don't show that cos they want Maxwell to be saved.

And this has happened before, where we only hear what someone has done rather than being shown it. Obviously lessens the impact of the act. Happened with Science taking the wine. Team Saskia (as it then was) objected cos there was some agreement reached that they could have the wine. Why didn't we get to see this alleged agreement? I suspect cos the agreement wasn't quite what Team Saski made it to be and by not showing what really happened, it makes Science look like the unreasonable one, who stole the wine. This kind of crap from BB annoys me. They don't show us all the stuff that goes on, and I would agree with whoever said in another thread that there should be an extended highlights show, possibly giving a more balanced view of the house, but it's unlikely to happen as BB like to manipulate us just as much as they manipulate the housemates.

The final shot in last nights show, of Maxwell bathed in light in the shower, while Science stands in the darkness, glowering and looking like some kind of evil demon was clearly choosen by BB to leave the viewers with that subconcious image of Maxwell = good, Science = bad. And then the numbers for eviction are shown.

Maybe I'm being too paranoid and reading too much into these things, but at times it annoys me to feel like I'm being manipulated by the increasingly omnipresent Big Bro.

Lance 07-07-2005 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Kopper2k5
was just on another bb site and they seem to be convinced endemol have sumthin for maxwell and r going to keep him in no matter what, some people just cant get over the fact that hes as popular as som of the other housemates :nono:
Yep I am not a huge Maxwell fan but every year people come up wih scams and what not because of sour grapes.

To be honest it's quite frankly pathetic and gets very tedious hearing it year after year.Nadia won because of favouritism and I know a lot of people here who like Max didn;t like Nadia last year.But they still accused BB of fixing the show....but this year I could go on complaining about the same thing but what's the point?:rolleyes:

Sad really isn't it that people have to make an excuse or start up something because their fave hasn't won.

Lance 07-07-2005 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Kore
yeah people cant take the fact hes more entertaining than the rest.
I'm sorry now Kore but that is totally hypocritical.

Last year you endlesslty went on about how the show was fixed in favour of Nadz,now a claim comes against Maxwell and "God no,that coulnd't be happeneing" because it's Max...your favourite.

But because last year you didn't like Nadia and she won of course it was fixed.:bored:

Dr.G 07-07-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast
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The final shot in last nights show, of Maxwell bathed in light in the shower, while Science stands in the darkness, glowering and looking like some kind of evil demon was clearly choosen by BB to leave the viewers with that subconcious image of Maxwell = good, Science = bad. And then the numbers for eviction are shown.

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LOL I think your on to something there mate!

Lance 07-07-2005 11:58 AM

I didn't see last nights highlight show but that could well be intentional.:bored:

Ruth 07-07-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Kore
yeah people cant take the fact hes more entertaining than the rest.
It's not a fact, it's a matter of opinion.

Lance 07-07-2005 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by Kore
yeah people cant take the fact hes more entertaining than the rest.
It's not a fact, it's a matter of opinion.
Yeah I don't think that there is a scale to measure how entertaining a housemate is Kore so it all lies on opinion and whoever wins is the most entertaing housemate to the majority of people.

Dan_ 07-07-2005 12:03 PM

There is editing towards favs and also they make sarcy comments on the official website towards certain housemates.

Ruth 07-07-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast
I'm still convinced that BB edit to show certain housemates in a good light, Maxwell being their main favourite.

Last nights show confirmed my suspicions even further. Why did we not get to see Maxwell taunting Eugene before the nominations were being announced about what it's going to be like to be up for nominations and what would he miss from the house, etc, etc. Instead, we only hear Orlaith relating it back to the girls. That way we only see the girls talking about it, which just then appears to the viewing public to be more bitching from this lot. It would have much more impact if we had seen Maxwell's nasty, smug little face winding up Eugene. But oh no, BB don't show that cos they want Maxwell to be saved.

And this has happened before, where we only hear what someone has done rather than being shown it. Obviously lessens the impact of the act. Happened with Science taking the wine. Team Saskia (as it then was) objected cos there was some agreement reached that they could have the wine. Why didn't we get to see this alleged agreement? I suspect cos the agreement wasn't quite what Team Saski made it to be and by not showing what really happened, it makes Science look like the unreasonable one, who stole the wine. This kind of c**p from BB annoys me. They don't show us all the stuff that goes on, and I would agree with whoever said in another thread that there should be an extended highlights show, possibly giving a more balanced view of the house, but it's unlikely to happen as BB like to manipulate us just as much as they manipulate the housemates.

The final shot in last nights show, of Maxwell bathed in light in the shower, while Science stands in the darkness, glowering and looking like some kind of evil demon was clearly choosen by BB to leave the viewers with that subconcious image of Maxwell = good, Science = bad. And then the numbers for eviction are shown.

Maybe I'm being too paranoid and reading too much into these things, but at times it annoys me to feel like I'm being manipulated by the increasingly omnipresent Big Bro.
Well said - pretty much what I wanted to say, but you have put it much better than I could have done.

I noticed how they showed Maxwell trying to make Eugene feel better in the diary room - but they didn't show how he had been taunting him beforehand.

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinions of all the housemates, but some of Maxwell's fans seem to think that he can do no wrong! Everybody does stuff that's not nice - it's part of human nature. Science is my favourite housemate, but I posted that I thought it was really bad of him to throw water at Kemal. I also thought it was totally wrong of Roberto to throw food over Maxwell (even though I liked Roberto and I don't like Maxwell at all), but I like these housemates, not because they're perfect, because nobody is perfect, but because of the people that they are. But sometimes it's as if whatever maxwell does is wonderful, and if he does anything that isn't wonderful, there's always an excuse for it.

1_In_A_Million 07-07-2005 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kopper2k5
was just on another bb site and they seem to be convinced endemol have sumthin for maxwell and r going to keep him in no matter what, some people just cant get over the fact that hes as popular as som of the other housemates :nono:
they might be but they edit everyone i think, lat year (bb5) michelle says they edited it so it looked like she was way more possesive over stu then she actually was

Lance 07-07-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
Quote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
I'm still convinced that BB edit to show certain housemates in a good light, Maxwell being their main favourite.

Last nights show confirmed my suspicions even further. Why did we not get to see Maxwell taunting Eugene before the nominations were being announced about what it's going to be like to be up for nominations and what would he miss from the house, etc, etc. Instead, we only hear Orlaith relating it back to the girls. That way we only see the girls talking about it, which just then appears to the viewing public to be more bitching from this lot. It would have much more impact if we had seen Maxwell's nasty, smug little face winding up Eugene. But oh no, BB don't show that cos they want Maxwell to be saved.

And this has happened before, where we only hear what someone has done rather than being shown it. Obviously lessens the impact of the act. Happened with Science taking the wine. Team Saskia (as it then was) objected cos there was some agreement reached that they could have the wine. Why didn't we get to see this alleged agreement? I suspect cos the agreement wasn't quite what Team Saski made it to be and by not showing what really happened, it makes Science look like the unreasonable one, who stole the wine. This kind of c**p from BB annoys me. They don't show us all the stuff that goes on, and I would agree with whoever said in another thread that there should be an extended highlights show, possibly giving a more balanced view of the house, but it's unlikely to happen as BB like to manipulate us just as much as they manipulate the housemates.

The final shot in last nights show, of Maxwell bathed in light in the shower, while Science stands in the darkness, glowering and looking like some kind of evil demon was clearly choosen by BB to leave the viewers with that subconcious image of Maxwell = good, Science = bad. And then the numbers for eviction are shown.

Maybe I'm being too paranoid and reading too much into these things, but at times it annoys me to feel like I'm being manipulated by the increasingly omnipresent Big Bro.
Well said - pretty much what I wanted to say, but you have put it much better than I could have done.

I noticed how they showed Maxwell trying to make Eugene feel better in the diary room - but they didn't show how he had been taunting him beforehand.

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinions of all the housemates, but some of Maxwell's fans seem to think that he can do no wrong! Everybody does stuff that's not nice - it's part of human nature. Science is my favourite housemate, but I posted that I thought it was really bad of him to throw water at Kemal. I also thought it was totally wrong of Roberto to throw food over Maxwell (even though I liked Roberto and I don't like Maxwell at all), but I like these housemates, not because they're perfect, because nobody is perfect, but because of the people that they are. But sometimes it's as if whatever maxwell does is wonderful, and if he does anything that isn't wonderful, there's always an excuse for it.
But everyone thinks that baout their favourites really.If you love someone in the house you aren't going to pay any attention and point out their bad sides,do ya get me?lol I don't know if I am making sense.

Like people get so drawn in being a fan of someone that they can't actually see housemate x doing anything wrong and even if they did they wouldn't be shouting about it because they want them to win at the end of the day.

1_In_A_Million 07-07-2005 03:23 PM

yes and even if they did see their fave h/m doing something bad they would just give them the benifit of the dout

Ruth 07-07-2005 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinions of all the housemates, but some of Maxwell's fans seem to think that he can do no wrong! Everybody does stuff that's not nice - it's part of human nature. Science is my favourite housemate, but I posted that I thought it was really bad of him to throw water at Kemal. I also thought it was totally wrong of Roberto to throw food over Maxwell (even though I liked Roberto and I don't like Maxwell at all), but I like these housemates, not because they're perfect, because nobody is perfect, but because of the people that they are. But sometimes it's as if whatever maxwell does is wonderful, and if he does anything that isn't wonderful, there's always an excuse for it.
But everyone thinks that baout their favourites really.If you love someone in the house you aren't going to pay any attention and point out their bad sides,do you get me?lol I don't know if I am making sense.

Like people get so drawn in being a fan of someone that they can't actually see housemate x doing anything wrong and even if they did they wouldn't be shouting about it because they want them to win at the end of the day. [/quote]

I take your point Lance, but as I've said, my favourite housemates are Roberto and Science, and I said when I thought they had done something wrong. I don't expect people to be perfect, because nobody is (and I'm FAR from perfect, believe me), but it does seem as if Maxwell can no no wrong whatsoever. As much as I like Science, I'm the first one to admit that he can be loud and hot headed, but I like him anyway, because he is a decent and honest person.

No offence to Maxwell fans - just saying the way I see things, that's all.

Lance 07-07-2005 05:32 PM

Yeah totally Ruth I get ya.And I am the first to admit that Makosi sometimes over does stuff and can bitch a lot.

But if it comes to some fans their favourites are angels who do no wrong...ever.

I was just thinking there aswell about this whole scam thing,and I know I don't think that BB has that much of an influence on voting,but the housemate pictures could even ne interpreted that way.

Like if you look at them all you can get a look at each personality straight away.You can see Maxwell is a fun guy,Ant is a poser,Makosi is a diva,Vanessa is "fun" and "crazy",Kemal is a diva,Lesley's a bitch etc...

Ella 07-07-2005 05:42 PM

Like if you look at them all you can get a look at each personality straight away.You can see Maxwell is a fun guy,Ant is a poser,Makosi is a diva,Vanessa is "fun" and "crazy",Kemal is a diva,Lesley's a bitch etc... [/quote]

Ive never actually thought of it that way before, but you are right!

Lance 07-07-2005 05:54 PM

If you do look at them though they do give off a certain impression of a housemate.Hmm...I think I should be a detective.:joker:

Ella 07-07-2005 05:55 PM

What would your detective name be...

Lance 07-07-2005 05:57 PM

Detectivaor

Ella 07-07-2005 05:58 PM

LMAO! Wicked name hun hehe

Ruth 07-07-2005 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lance
Like if you look at them all you can get a look at each personality straight away.You can see Maxwell is a fun guy,Ant is a poser,Makosi is a diva,Vanessa is "fun" and "crazy",Kemal is a diva,Lesley's a bitch etc...
That hadn't occurred to me, but you're absolutely right.


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