Why did they cut freddie having a panic attack out of the repeat?
 

Just curious....

I think they got flooded with complaints.

Probably to keep him in, i mean he is not emotionalbly (if thats the word :P) stable to be in the house and if they shown that OFcom would have got complants...

Also it would have made him look even more like a dog turd for going OTT :P

probably because of little 'uns watching

to show someone in distress without any accompanying commentry to explain or without any real resolution might be considered upsetting for younger viewers

....i'm winging it a bit here:puzzled:

I thought this might be the reason.

Or it was classed as distressing to watch, but I think the whole arguement was quite distressing.

To the people who said he was faking it, do you really think they would cut out an 'obviously fake panic attack'?

I'd agree with bitterfruit. My 13yr old wanted to watch BB this morning, and I was quite grateful they cut the panic attack out. I cant be explaining that to him before 9am :)

it was extremely akward to watch, and me being a grown woman actually got quite upset watching it. I can fully understand why people would complain.

I knew they wouldnt have shown in, saw it a bit this morning while having breakfast so i wasnt suprised. Also, complaints came through last night on BB not bringing Bea to the DR and that they found that moment to be distressing.

Quite rightly so.

And they shouldnt have just called her to the DR, she should have been thrown out I think. Was bullying, pure and simple.

Its too disturbing too see during day time and anyhow kids are more likely to be watching it then.

Why is everyone saying Freddie had a panic attack?

I don't believe he had a panic attack - he was just very upset - they are not the same thing!

I think everyone is being very dramatic!!

We believe he did. Thats why.

Only people who dont like freddie are doubting that it was a panic attack.:rolleyes: Wonder why that is...

Certainly seemed like a panic attack. Maybe a mild one, but still a panic attack.

If he didnt, they wouldnt have cut it out this morning would they? Surely they are allowed to show someone being upset. they already had...

Sorry Vicky, a non convincing arguement, they would cut a fake panic attack if they thought it would stress or upset younger members of the audience. Even if they knew it was fake, they have even cut arguements where voices were raised before.

Actually I am not speaking as a Freddie 'hater' - I am speaking as a nurse!

Funny how all these nurses etc. come crawling out of the woodwork now isnt it? The amount of qualified psychologists/doctors/nurses etc we have had on here since last night is unbelievable :rolleyes:

I cant believe anyone would doubt that he had a panic attack, or that people can have grown so cynical about someone else obviously in distress :(

Ridiculous isnt it?

I meant to the people who were saying it was so obviously fake it was laughable...surely if anyone could laugh at it, it wouldnt be distressing...plus they showed quite a lot of the whole thing, except him actually saying her voice was stressing him...was well weird...

Panic attacks are subjective and individual to the person it is happening to - if he felt like he was panicking it was REAL for him - irrespective of whether it fits someone elses very rigid view of what a panic attack entails!

Is it possible that someone can pretend to have a panic attack?

Is it possible that Freddie has seen someone suffering a panic attack and decided to play for sympathy?

Is it possible that Freddie has simply fooled a lot of people?

I am not saying he has or he hasn't

I seem to recall him saying something about not wanting her even in the same room as her voice would cause him to have panic attacks.

If I wanted to 'show-off' or something - I would of said that I am a doctor - but I am actually a nurse - I have mentioned it before on a thread!

Think what you like - but from my knowledge and experience on the subject - I do not believe he had a panic attack!

I don't think he was acting - he was very upset - although Freddie does have a tendency to overreact! He often takes deep breaths before he speaks and has difficulty getting the words out - they do not mean he was having a panic attack!

It is possible but ridiculously unlikely that someone would go to those extremes to win an arguement.

Or as people claim, to win the sympathy vote. He has no reason to try and do this anyway, he already believes he is winning the show(after being told this), as his cocky behaviour has proved on numerous occasions.

Plus he was a damn good actor if how he was behaving was faked, he should be a movie star, seriously.

...the morning BB repeat is on at childrens tv time..the night one after the 9pm watershed....so they have to cut the morning one for children alot.......

i didnt watch the repeat i felt really bad for him.Bea really is a hurtful,heartless person.

Most likely the distressing explaination you said....I actually felt like turning off the TV, it was not good to watch

Extremes? Isnt going into the BB house for 3 months to win 100 grand an extreme?

He doesnt know he is winning the popular vote, he assumes, some of Beas words will have struck true she told him he was fake, he has at times been fake so if Bea can see it he may assume the public may have seen through it, she did say she thought he was nice when she came into the house but her eyes had been opened to the real him.

What acting, hiding under a duvet having tears in red rimmed eyes and panting in a dramatic way.

Sorry what Bea did and say to him, was quite nasty but I believe he was faking it.

What about his dramatic portrayal of the words she used on him when she went back into the bedroom to see how he was after Rodders had asked her to?

"YOU so did ,YOU called me a negative little man"

And why say "her voice WILL give me panic attacks" as opposed to "she IS giving me panic attacks"

At times of high emotions, be they forced or real the truth is often let out. I have three children the oldest is now in his twenties and Freddie acted like a teenager running on emotions when told something they didnt want to hear.

Anyone who says freddie was acting a panic attack or other people are being dramatic should be ashamed of themselves and obviously lack emotional intelligence.

What happened last night to freddie is an absolute disgrace and anyone with an ounce of empathy would be able to see how she was driving him to crack.

She manipulated everything she said (she also completely projects as what she says about freddie discribes herself perfectly) to strip freddie and everytime he tried to talk she continued to bring up things in a way which totally confused him.

He wanted to speak reasonably about one issue and she goes back to a different issue with her same cruel terrorising language. She deliberately confused his head and rendered him to a point he couldnt even think never mind fight back and defend himself.

This is a method of mind control and designed deliberately to kill someones spirit and completely scramble thier head to break them. She knew exactly what she was doing.

She should have been removed from the house. This woman is a very dangerous person.

I have had an experience like freddie last night, and believe me a panic attack is the minimum result.

This person should be ordered to leave the house.

i agree.

:thumbs:

I dont know, he can be overdramatic at times...I know.

I believe though that the reason he did this was because he couldnt believe how she was trying to twist everything AGAIN...trying to take back things that she had indeed said. She didnt say the exact words 'negative little man', she just said he was negative, but she did say the rest of the stuff that she was denying...

You know when he firmly believes something he goes into full shakespearian mode...for reasons unknown, he is a bit weird in that way.

If someone was blatantly lying in my face, i would find it extremely hard not to jump up and knock them out to be honest...so it is possible he was feeling slightly like that...he was trying not to scream at her, would make sense, he was talking through gritted teeth...

Who are you to say people who disagree with you should be ashamed of themselves and lack emotional intelligence?

Maybe your blind hate of Bea is clouding your judgement?

She may not be the most likeable person - but Freddie is a very emotionally demanding person and would emotionally drain anyone!

She is not 'dangerous' - don't get so carried away - it is a gameshow afterall!

To COMMONSENSE - my hatred to bea is not clouding my judgement, and I have eveery right to say "people who think freddie is acting" should be ashamed of themselves.

What I watched last night was no "game show" and anyway the whole programme is designed to bring out the true colours in people.

No they mean he has been taught how to cope with or avoid panic attacks. The taught techniques is given the acronym WASP (Wait, Absorb, Slowly Proceed). This is part of a coping strategy called Neuro-Linguistic Programming, often used to help dylexics deal with their problem.

It was very unfortunate that Rodrigo, well meaning as he was, sent Bea back in to Freddie when he was in the ABSORB phase, trying to regain control of a developing panic attack. Bea did not intend to provoke Freddie, she was herself trying to deal with heightened anxiety.

Freddie was in a panic attack episode but was coping with it. Clearly it presented as distress, which is why the producers decided it was not suitable for broadcast on early morning television when children would be watching.

You may or may not be right about Freddie trying to
pre-empt an attack - but neither you or I - or indeed anyone else on this forum - are qualified to say that!

The only person who knows the answer to that is his doctor!

For all any of us know he has never been diagnosed with panic attacks - who are you or anyone, other than a doctor - to say he had a panic attack!! People are speaking as if that is a fact - it is not a fact!

Even those who have been diagnosed with panic attacks or have children who have been diagnosed - cannot make a diagnosis on Freddie because he had similar symptoms!

There are always other possibilities - it requires a proper medical diagnosis from the relevant qualified professional!

Yet YOU were qualified enough to say that he definately hadnt had a panic attack? :rolleyes:

Next time I see someone knocked down by a car, before I offer any evidence as a witness to the police, I shall ask the person's doctor whether that is what happened shall I? If I see someone with a nose bleed, I'll ring their doctor and tell him/her that there is blood coming out of the person's nose, could he come and diagnose whether the person is having a nose bleed?

Freddie was in an elevated anxiety episode which is diagnosed as an 'anxiety attack' based upon the presenting symptoms. I stand by my diagnosis and I also saw some of the classic taught responses being exhibitted. The vocalisations often emitted by Freddie the 'ooohs, aaahs, mmmms' are also typical taught responses for those suffering from dyslexia which compromises cognitive precessing. The downside is that it makes them appear somewhat eccentric to judgemental observers but it allows them to function.

That deffinately was a panic attack of sorts. I have had, unfortunately, many of them and they are one of the worst thing anyone can experience. Freddie didn't have a full blown one but the signs were there add to the fact that there was no escape. Trapped in the bedroom in the house with all sorts of things going through your head and feeling isolated and alone are all part of a panic attack. And they can happen at any moment, anywhere, with the click of a finger. Recovering from them is also a very daunting experience. Yes he was very upset which is why he had the attack.

Ridiculous analogy - knocked down by a car, nose bleed - hardly the same!

As I said - I deal in facts - if bb say, that after consultation with a doctor - they can confirm he had a 'panic attack' - then he had a panic attack! Until then - the jury is out as far as I am concerned!

Vicky no disrespect intended ,but ...you are coming across as a top qualified specialist on panic attacks ,and anyone who doesnt agree with you is made to feel wrong and you right ,I am sorry for your b/f who gets them of course i am ,but we ALL have our own opinion on what happened last night ,NONE of us are doctors ,but we DO have our own minds and thoughts ,please allow us to use them :flowers:

Don't put words in my mouth - read the post properly!

I did not say he definitely had NOT had a panic attack - I said - I did not believe he had had a panic attack!!

You are the one making assumptions - not me!

It was quite disturbing last night, and genuinely uncomfortable to watch, so that, coupled with the near certainty that they'd have had a lot of complaints about it yesterday, was probably the reason.
First time I've ever felt like complaining about a tv show, they let Bea continue too long and should at the very least have ordered her into another room. Neglect of housemates welfare some could call it.