Siavash Support
 

You see, this is the funniest thing about Siavash supporters and what's really been striking to me on tonights forum. You call him heartbroken becuz Noirin pushed him away after two days together right?

And then Siavash has humilated his girlfriend on live tv and you call it nothing - that everyone makes mistakes. The hyprocrisy is incredible really.

And then to top it all off you state tonight that he's finally realised how much he's hurt his girlfriend, a girlfriend you were so quick to dismiss up until now.It's stunning the lengths you lot will go to in your defence of him, contradicting yourselves entirely at every turn.

He's a sleeze bag, his ex is well rid. I hope he doesn't win BB if he doe's he should be made give the winnings to charity...as he's stated thats his plan. Davina's first question should be which charity would you like the cheque made out too, on your dehalf. :sad::bored::yuk:

I strongly suspect that Siewash has spent way more time with Noirin than he has with his so called girlfriend.

He actually believed that Noirin more than liked him. They talked about what they were going to do when they got outside the BB house.

BB knew that the whole matter distressed him and yet BB delivebately repeated the episode to humiliate him some more. It has now taken up 4 days of the last week. Surely they could have concentrated on something funny.
But no Siewash was to be punished by them . The other housemates said they should have picked another topic.
Was it not enough that they had him dressed in a leotard and stilleto heels? He has worn this without complaint despite the fact the shoes are crippling.

[rquote=2534661&tid=146047&author=boomoo]I strongly suspect that Siewash has spent way more time with Noirin than he has with his so called girlfriend.

He actually believed that Noirin more than liked him. They talked about what they were going to do when they got outside the BB house.

BB knew that the whole matter distressed him and yet BB delivebately repeated the episode to humiliate him some more. It has now taken up 4 days of the last week. Surely they could have concentrated on something funny.
But no Siewash was to be punished by them . The other housemates said they should have picked another topic.
Was it not enough that they had him dressed in a leotard and stilleto heels? He has worn this without complaint despite the fact the shoes are crippling.[/rquote]

That literally has nothing to do with the thread I posted.

Yes he was heartbroken, and yes he made a mistake.

How is that hypocritical? :conf:

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[rquote=2534669&tid=146047&author=HalfwitFTW]Yes he was heartbroken, and yes he made a mistake.

How is that hypocritical? :conf:[/rquote]

Not him, you lot. Did you even read it? And no, he's not heartbroken.

[rquote=2534673&tid=146047&author=setanta][rquote=2534669&tid=146047&author=HalfwitFTW]Yes he was heartbroken, and yes he made a mistake.

How is that hypocritical? :conf:[/rquote]

Not him, you lot. Did you even read it? And no, he's not heartbroken.[/rquote]

Yes how is us saying he is heartbroken and he made a mistake hypocritical of us?

[rquote=2534673&tid=146047&author=setanta][rquote=2534669&tid=146047&author=HalfwitFTW]Yes he was heartbroken, and yes he made a mistake.

How is that hypocritical? :conf:[/rquote]

Not him, you lot. Did you even read it? And no, he's not heartbroken.[/rquote]

I think you need to explain better exactly how his fans are being hypocritical because I've reread your OP a few times now and it doesn't actually make a lot of sense?

Not having a dig here I just think you could make it clearer, where is the hypocrisy?

Yea setanta, it's not like you to be soo obscure.

Right plain English

Norin kicks him to the curb after 2 days = Aww poor Siavash

Siavash humiliates girlfriend of a month = Whatever everyone makes mistakes and sure she's a bit of a bi£ch. Not much of a relationship anway.

Siavash states he's hurt his ex tonight = Aww, Siavash realises what hes done. Suddenly this girl is important again in your defence of Siavash when you had relegated her to an insincere wannabe. It's actually hilarious and totally hypocritical.

Great post again Setanta,the hypocrisy of his fans is quite unbelievable at times.

I don't use that ex g/f as a defence against the ones who attack Siavash on this forum.

I don't rate her at all, to me Noirin meant more to him than her.

Also he spent far more time with Noirin than that other bitch.

Siavash caring about this supposed ex's feelings shows what a good soul he has.

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Siavash caring about this supposed ex's feelings shows what a good soul he has.
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a good soul wouldnt try it on with a girl who a mate really likes

[rquote=2534695&tid=146047&author=setanta]Right plain English

Norin kicks him to the curb after 2 days = Aww poor Siavash
Siavash humiliates girlfriend of a month = Whatever everyone makes mistakes and sure she's a bit of a bi£ch. Not much of a relationship anway.

Siavash states he's hurt his ex tonight = Aww, Siavash realises what hes done. Suddenly this girl is important again in your defence of Siavash when you had relegated her to an insincere wannabe. It's actually hilarious and totally hypocritical.

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I've never said his girlfriend is not feeling heartbroken, maybe she was, so how is us saying Siavash is feeling heartbroken hypocritical?

Yes Noirin made a mistake by hurting Siavash, but we have also admitted Siavash made a mistake by hurting his girlfriend... again, how is that hypocritical?

Yes I still think he wasnt that serious about his girlfriend, if he was serious about her he wouldnt have cheated on her, just because he wasnt serious about her that doesnt mean he shouldnt feel remorse for hurting another human being. Yes he did feel remorse tonight. How is us saying that being hypocritical?

I'm still not seeing the hypocrisy? And I have never called his gf a wannabe or a bitch, all I've said is she should have some maturity and class and wait for Siavash to come out to discuss their personal issues with him in private.

Ok.....

Noirin kicked him to the curb and he was upset, yes poor Siavash because he genuinely liked the girl a lot (he had been living with her 24/7 for 8 weeks at this point which equates to probably 6 months of time outside the house of being with someone). He also risked upsetting the girl he was seeing on the outside, however serious or not serious it was so he was taking a HUGE chance with Noirin, she led him a merry dance then dropped him so yes feel sorry for him.

He humiliates his girlfriend of one month, never said this was okay for him to do, but can just see how it might happen, especially if this girl he was seeing for only 4 short weeks (which could only equate to 2 dates per week for example) and you then compare this to the amount of time spent in a pressure cooker environment with someone he obviously fancied/liked a great deal. But yes he ****ed up, noone is disputing that are they?

Tonight isn't the first time he has realised what he has done, he has spoken to other HM's and in the DR about it on several occasions, and said how bad he feels. So nothing sudden about it at all. But it's understandable why he may be panicking now, as they are so close to the end, and he is going to have to face the music. He has also had the thing shoved down his throat for the past few days due to the renenactment task they had, so it's made him think about it in greater detail. He's only human, of course he's going to be worried about what's waiting for him outside the house.

Should he have thought about that BEFORE he went there with Noirin, yes, so he only has himself to blame, but he is only human, humans make mistakes. Some of us seem to be capable of realising that and cutting the guy some slack, obviously you can't.

[rquote=2534710&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM][rquote=2534706&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]


Siavash caring about this supposed ex's feelings shows what a good soul he has.
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a good soul wouldnt try it on with a girl who a mate really likes[/rquote]

But his friend liking a girl doesn't mean that the friend has some sort sole rights to that girl.

Its the girls choice.

Noirin said "no" to Marcus, so was she meant to remain alone in the house despite desiring companionship?

Siavash was right to make a move on Noirin, it was what she wanted, she chose him.

[rquote=2534716&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534710&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM][rquote=2534706&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]


Siavash caring about this supposed ex's feelings shows what a good soul he has.
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a good soul wouldnt try it on with a girl who a mate really likes[/rquote]

But his friend liking a girl doesn't mean that the friend has some sort sole rights to that girl.

Its the girls choice.

Noirin said "no" to Marcus, so was she meant to remain alone in the house despite desiring companionship?

Siavash was right to make a move on Noirin, it was what she wanted, she chose him.[/rquote]
Come on,you dont try it on with someone a friend is after,you just dont unless your a slimeball.He didnt even have the balls to tell him.Yet you call him a good soul??
Its this sort of blind allegience that has irritated me about Siavash fans,he can do know wrong.

[rquote=2534637&tid=146047&author=setanta]You see, this is the funniest thing about Siavash supporters and what's really been striking to me on tonights forum. You call him heartbroken becuz Noirin pushed him away after two days together right?

And then Siavash has humilated his girlfriend on live tv and you call it nothing - that everyone makes mistakes. The hyprocrisy is incredible really.

And then to top it all off you state tonight that he's finally realised how much he's hurt his girlfriend, a girlfriend you were so quick to dismiss up until now.It's stunning the lengths you lot will go to in your defence of him, contradicting yourselves entirely at every turn.[/rquote]

I am not a supporter or non supporter of Siavash, however the way I see it is he wasn't just upset about Noirin ditching him for Isaac, I do believe that played a part yes.
However I think it was a mixture of things if I'm honest.
Noirin discarding him without a second thought, when Siavash obviously liked her.
The realisation that he had just been made a complete fool of on National TV.
The realisation that he had done the same to his ex-gf outside.
The fact that he would have to live in the house with them and the embarrassment of kissing a guys ex-gf and her just ignoring him and running back to the ex once he came in.

It is a very nasty, awkward and embarrassing situation to be in, and yes it was self inflicted, but Siavash has never denied it was, and hasn't shied away from the fact it happened.
He was completely embarrassed again when BB deliberately played that episode in, as it was a very raw moment, and I believe he wasn't milking it, it looked like he was genuinely majorly uncomfortable with the whole thing.
I know if I ever was in that position (which I will never be in)the last thing I'd want is to see myself doing it on TV, knowing the public have seen the same thing, and then have the HMs re-enact the situation.

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Siavash caring about this supposed ex's feelings shows what a good soul he has.
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a good soul wouldnt try it on with a girl who a mate really likes[/rquote]

Marcus didnt 'really like' Noirin though, he has said so himself plenty of times.

[rquote=2534727&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]
Come on,you dont try it on with someone a friend is after,you just dont unless your a slimeball.He didnt even have the balls to tell him.Yet you call him a good soul??
Its this sort of blind allegience that has irritated me about Siavash fans,he can do know wrong.[/rquote]

And with Siavash haters, he can do no right.

Now who is being hypocritical?

[rquote=2534727&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]
Come on,you dont try it on with someone a friend is after,you just dont unless your a slimeball.He didnt even have the balls to tell him.Yet you call him a good soul??
Its this sort of blind allegience that has irritated me about Siavash fans,he can do know wrong.[/rquote]

I know he is a good soul dispite his flaws. And yes he does make mistakes, he isn't perfect.

But at least he considers his options, thinks what is the right thing to do.

He is loyal to his friends.

Noirin was a free agent.

Marcus didn't own Noirin. So I don't get how he was crossing some boy code. Please explain.

i used to like Siavash (pre Norin). Nothing to do with Norin, but 'after norin'
he totally became a victim and stared speaking in a totally pathetic limp voice and started with all the pretend sacrificial **** (i will put myself for eviction, i will walk, we should not nominate, i am jesus, i am a pee nurse etc etc). anyways - I'm concerned that his ex girlfriend is an artis employed by satchi and satchi (worlds biggest art wank hype company) and so may milk the whole siavash bullshit situation to a great extanet. Theres not much news around big brother this year but they together with backing my yoink up some rubish for media coverage.

[rquote=2534737&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534727&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]
Come on,you dont try it on with someone a friend is after,you just dont unless your a slimeball.He didnt even have the balls to tell him.Yet you call him a good soul??
Its this sort of blind allegience that has irritated me about Siavash fans,he can do know wrong.[/rquote]




Marcus didn't own Noirin. So I don't get how he was crossing some boy code. Please explain.

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Are you serious?i dont know how old you are but you have a lot to learn if you dont know that to go behind your friends back and start a relationship with someone who they have been after for ages
is just wrong.Think about it.

[rquote=2534737&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]

He is loyal to his friends.

Noirin was a free agent.

Marcus didn't own Noirin. So I don't get how he was crossing some boy code. Please explain.

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If your friend fancies a girl and totally nosedives and crumbles about her then it is not very 'loyal to your friend' to jump in and try and get her for yourself. When it came down to it siavash did not give a $hit about friends or girlfriends and ignored everything except his hairy a$$ desire to get off with norin. If I was marcus, or his girlfriend i would feel totally let down by that and would consider all his pathetic waffling and actions to be worthless and the bloke a fake. goodbye.

Would you like me to explain anything else

[rquote=2534757&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Are you serious?i dont know how old you are but you have a lot to learn if you dont know that to go behind your friends back and start a relationship with someone who they have been after for ages
is just wrong.Think about it.[/rquote]

I am serious and I don't see what my age has to do with this.

If I went behind my friends back and got off with a guy, who she had been chasing for ages, and he kept saying "no" to her.

My friend would probably thank me for ending that sorry charade.

Just because Marcus was after Noirin, doesn't mean she was powerless to chase someone else.

[rquote=2534763&tid=146047&author=dixiebell1991]
If your friend fancies a girl and totally nosedives and crumbles about her then it is not very 'loyal to your friend' to jump in and try and get her for yourself. When it came down to it siavash did not give a $hit about friends or girlfriends and ignored everything except his hairy a$$ desire to get off with norin. If I was marcus, or his girlfriend i would feel totally let down by that and would consider all his pathetic waffling and actions to be worthless and the bloke a fake. goodbye.

Would you like me to explain anything else[/rquote]

Yes please explain why what Noirin wants isn't part of your explanation.

Siavash and Noirin fancied each other.

Marcus was smothering Noirin like a duvet for weeks. She didn't want a relationship with him.

She chose Siavash.

What is soo wrong about that?

[rquote=2534765&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534757&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Are you serious?i dont know how old you are but you have a lot to learn if you dont know that to go behind your friends back and start a relationship with someone who they have been after for ages
is just wrong.Think about it.[/rquote]






Just because Marcus was after Noirin, doesn't mean she was powerless to chase someone else.[/rquote]
Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.

[rquote=2534772&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.[/rquote]

Fine, Siavash has seen his friend humiliated by a girl for a few weeks, she continually rebuffs him.

Why should Siavash feel that Noirin is in some way bound to Marcus.

Marcus didn't consult Siavash before chasing Noirin, why should Siavash extend Marcus any such courtesy.

I don't see the rule off friendship that Siavash is meant to have stepped over.

[rquote=2534777&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534772&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.[/rquote]

Fine, Siavash has seen his friend humiliated by a girl for a few weeks, she continually rebuffs him.

Why should Siavash feel that Noirin is in some way bound to Marcus.

Marcus didn't consult Siavash before chasing Noirin, why should Siavash extend Marcus any such courtesy.

I don't see the rule off friendship that Siavash is meant to have stepped over.[/rquote]:mad:[rquote=2534777&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534772&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.[/rquote]




I don't see the rule off friendship that Siavash is meant to have stepped over.[/rquote]
:mad:[rquote=2534777&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534772&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.[/rquote]

Fine, Siavash has seen his friend humiliated by a girl for a few weeks, she continually rebuffs him.

Why should Siavash feel that Noirin is in some way bound to Marcus.

Marcus didn't consult Siavash before chasing Noirin, why should Siavash extend Marcus any such courtesy.

I don't see the rule off friendship that Siavash is meant to have stepped over.[/rquote]:mad:[rquote=2534777&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth][rquote=2534772&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]

Why are you talking about Noirin?She can do what she wants its Siavash(the good soul) im talking about.[/rquote]




I don't see the rule off friendship that Siavash is meant to have stepped over.[/rquote]

oops sorry for that.Dont ban me vicky lol

You lot have gone way off topic in your defence of Siavash when all I've been trying to illustrate is the hypocrisy of his fans- continually seeing it from his point of view and spinning it in his favour. Tonight's show and the reactions on the forum is evidence of it, when you had very flippantly dismissed his ex for a month or so and now all of a sudden you claim he's sore over it all, a few days before the end. Thats your main excuse for his actions.

His motivations are not my concern right now anyway; it's your motivations. Do I have to go back a few days in the posts to find the comments where you lot said she was a wannabe and that she's not worth it and that Siavash was right to turn his back on her? Must I illustrate the comments where you said it's only a month, no big deal? You've all said things like this. And now all of a sudden he shows a sudden bout of remorse - total bull by the way - and you go awwww, lovely Siavash, when you and he had forgotten her or just plain ridiculed her for quite some time. I'm talking about your hyprocrisy right now, not his.

[rquote=2534784&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]oops sorry for that.Dont ban me vicky lol[/rquote]

For what :shrug:

I did call said g/f a wannabe and fame hungry, I still think she is.

The fact that he thinks of her and regrets dumping her on tv, doesn't make me change my opinion of her. It just illustrates his capacity to think of others.

anyway its been fun,im goin for a jog.

[rquote=2534798&tid=146047&author=WAYNEEBRUM]anyway its been fun,im goin for a jog.[/rquote]:hug: Night, see you tomorrow.

[rquote=2534794&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]I did call said g/f a wannabe and fame hungry, I still think she is.

The fact that he thinks of her and regrets dumping her on tv, doesn't make me change my opinion of her. It just illustrates his capacity to think of others.[/rquote]

But again, you're changing the goalposts. One rule for Siavash, another for the rest. What about her feelings when he decided to have a fling with Noirin and spoke about their future together on national tv? Why has he suddenly decided, a day before the end to show his remorse when he'll be out the door soon anyway? You'll twist it any old way to put him in a good light.

[rquote=2534800&tid=146047&author=setanta][rquote=2534794&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]I did call said g/f a wannabe and fame hungry, I still think she is.

The fact that he thinks of her and regrets dumping her on tv, doesn't make me change my opinion of her. It just illustrates his capacity to think of others.[/rquote]

But again, you're changing the goalposts. One rule for Siavash, another for the rest. What about her feelings when he decided to have a fling with Noirin and spoke about their future together on national tv? Why has he suddenly decided, a day before the end to show his remorse when he'll be out the door soon anyway? You'll twist it any old way to put him in a good light.[/rquote]

You really don't read what anyone says do you?

He's shown remorse numerous times before the past 2 days, both in the DR and to fellow HM's.

He's panicking now more so because it's so near to the end and he's got to go out and face the music.

What's so hard about that to understand exactly?

And also I was one of the first to say it was wrong for him to do what he did with Noirin when it happened.

I do think his ex is milking it, especially based on the fact that she herself has admitted now it was a casual thing, but I never said it was totally okay what he did, quite the opposite.

You say we twist things, but you don't even take in what we say it seems to me, just keep rehashing the same old same old and calling us totally biased.

[rquote=2534802&tid=146047&author=MissKittyFantasti co][rquote=2534800&tid=146047&author=setanta][rquote=2534794&tid=146047&author=GypsyGoth]I did call said g/f a wannabe and fame hungry, I still think she is.

The fact that he thinks of her and regrets dumping her on tv, doesn't make me change my opinion of her. It just illustrates his capacity to think of others.[/rquote]

But again, you're changing the goalposts. One rule for Siavash, another for the rest. What about her feelings when he decided to have a fling with Noirin and spoke about their future together on national tv? Why has he suddenly decided, a day before the end to show his remorse when he'll be out the door soon anyway? You'll twist it any old way to put him in a good light.[/rquote]

You really don't read what anyone says do you?

He's shown remorse numerous times before the past 2 days, both in the DR and to fellow HM's.

He's panicking now more so because it's so near to the end and he's got to go out and face the music.

What's so hard about that to understand exactly?[/rquote]

I'm not talking about his motivations - I'm talking about yours and the hypocrisy of your comments if you compare the ones now from a few days ago. There's no logic or balance in them.

But you're right about one thing.... he's panicking and embarrassed, but not heartbroken and remorseful as some would have us think.

[rquote=2534800&tid=146047&author=setanta]

But again, you're changing the goalposts. One rule for Siavash, another for the rest. What about her feelings when he decided to have a fling with Noirin and spoke about their future together on national tv? Why has he suddenly decided, a day before the end to show his remorse when he'll be out the door soon anyway? You'll twist it any old way to put him in a good light.[/rquote]

If their relationship was real, then yea of course I feel sorry for her, it is a terrible experience to be cheated on.

Yes he was wrong to give into temptation and be with Noirin.

Having siad that, I still like him and want him to win, for me he is the best of them.

He has often spoke of his ex, remember after the magazine task. Also I'm sure we miss soo much not having live feed.

And I don't twist facts to put him in a good light, I'm just trying to get across to you, why I see him in a good light.