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Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 01:22 PM

Vatican condemns Hallowe'en as anti-Christian
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...Christian.html

I would more condemn it as too "American"

Niamh. 30-10-2009 01:25 PM

Oh For ****s Sake!!

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2639259)
Oh For ****s Sake!!

They are not going to like November the 5th much either....

Beastie 30-10-2009 01:37 PM

they need to grow up and learn to agree to disagree..

MrGaryy 30-10-2009 01:38 PM

well I condemn the Vatican as deluded facists.

Niamh. 30-10-2009 01:38 PM

Whats November 5th? I know there's a rhyme about it, remember, remember the 5th of November......... Guy Fawlkes(just googled it!!) We don't have that here, thats a British thing

arista 30-10-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 2639281)
well I condemn the Vatican as deluded facists.



Bang On Right

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...n_1513478c.jpg

This is from a Movie Mask
anyway.

Shaun 30-10-2009 02:12 PM

yeah, that's why people love it. :)

bronaaaa 30-10-2009 02:12 PM

-sigh-

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2639282)
Whats November 5th? I know there's a rhyme about it, remember, remember the 5th of November......... Guy Fawlkes(just googled it!!) We don't have that here, thats a British thing

Catholic plot to dynamite the houses of parliament. Every 5th November is fireworks night and most towns burn an effigy of the main culprit on a huge bonfire, many English towns still burn a Pope effigy.

NettoSuperstar! 30-10-2009 02:43 PM

hehe

Enid 30-10-2009 02:49 PM

A penny loaf to feed the Pope.
A farthing of cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A fagot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah! Hip hip hoorah hoorah!

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 02:51 PM

The Pope looks scarier than any Scream mask

Niamh. 30-10-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2639385)
The Pope looks scarier than any Scream mask

I thought you were a "christain"?

Fom 30-10-2009 03:15 PM

Yeah but it is a Pagan holiday isn't it? If you are a truthful Christian you wouldn't celebrate it, it is in a way like saying if your Christian you shouldn't celebrate Hanukkah.

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fom (Post 2639435)
Yeah but it is a Pagan holiday isn't it? If you are a truthful Christian you wouldn't celebrate it, it is in a way like saying if your Christian you shouldn't celebrate Hanukkah.

As a Christian I dont celebrate it but it is more because I am an adult.

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2639428)
I thought you were a "christain"?

i kick with the other foot..

Niamh. 30-10-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2639445)
i kick with the other foot..

?? You mean you're Church of England? But ye are both Christians and follow the Bible??

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2639451)
?? You mean you're Church of England? But ye are both Christians and follow the Bible??

Protestant and yes both are Christian but i do not agree with quite a bit of catholicism and can have a bit of a laugh at the Pope (I cant help that being a Rangers fan!).

Niamh. 30-10-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2639459)
Protestant and yes both are Christian but i do not agree with quite a bit of catholicism and can have a bit of a laugh at the Pope (I cant help that being a Rangers fan!).

Celtic all the way lol!!! I won't disagree with you about the numerous silly rules of Catholicism though:joker:

Harry! 30-10-2009 03:47 PM

Religion, Religion, RELIGION. Such a killjoy these days.

WOMBAI 30-10-2009 03:53 PM

There is nothing wrong with a bit of fun for the kids - some people just take themselves far too seriously.

BB_Eye 30-10-2009 04:14 PM

The Vatican are a joke these days. I feel sorry for a lot of Catholics actually. They need a third Rome.

Scarlett. 30-10-2009 08:48 PM

The Pope needs a bitch slap off his balcony

setanta 31-10-2009 04:58 AM

It's always good to keep in touch with your pagan Celtic ancestry - Pope should stick his beak in other affairs.

Prole 01-11-2009 12:54 AM

Seeing that the Catholics have done their level best to eradicate all Pagan religions, usually with violence, naturally the pope would condemn it. Actually Halloween, or Samhain to give it its proper title, has been around much longer than Christianity. People celebrate it these days in much the same way they celebrate Christmas, that is to say that they know nothing of the roots of the festival but enjoy the party. And there's nothing wrong with that.

InOne 01-11-2009 01:11 AM

Well everyone was always gonna disagree on this.

Prole 01-11-2009 01:14 AM

I think if people want to have fun on Halloween, whether they're Pagans or they just enjoy the occasion, I don't see a problem. The church just likes to suck the joy out of everything.

Crimson Dynamo 01-11-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prole (Post 2644174)
I think if people want to have fun on Halloween, whether they're Pagans or they just enjoy the occasion, I don't see a problem. The church just likes to suck the joy out of everything.

that is nonsense naturally. but i do think that no one is celebrating the dark side at Halloween it is just an excuse to have fun for children and people who are looking to find partners (ie teenagers).

Prole 01-11-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2644646)
that is nonsense naturally. but i do think that no one is celebrating the dark side at Halloween it is just an excuse to have fun for children and people who are looking to find partners (ie teenagers).

Anything that you don't comprehend is nonsense, it seems. I'm not sure what you mean by the "dark side". I celebrate Samhain every year and there's nothing dark about it. I suppose that's a big difference difference between me and you; I am happy for people to celebrate their own particular religion, whereas you ridicule anything you don't understand. It's a shame.

Ramsay 01-11-2009 07:36 PM

such ******s they are
''oh were right were always right people should do what we say''
their as bad as hitler for **** sake
well minus the killings

InOne 01-11-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl. (Post 2645821)
such ******s they are
''oh were right were always right people should do what we say''
their as bad as hitler for **** sake
well minus the killings

Minus the killings???? Have you not heard of the Crucades!!!!!

MiuMiu 02-11-2009 12:50 AM

Why did they need to condemn it?
Off course it's ant-christian. It's a pagan festival.
But aren't all christian feasts built upon pagan festivals anyways?
What next?
Condenming Christmas for being anti-chrisitan?
lol!

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiuMiu (Post 2646756)
Why did they need to condemn it?
Off course it's ant-christian. It's a pagan festival.
But aren't all christian feasts built upon pagan festivals anyways?
What next?
Condenming Christmas for being anti-chrisitan?
lol!

not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

Prole 02-11-2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2646819)
not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prole (Post 2646878)
Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.


Whilst practising Christians have been in decline in some Western countries, there has been a recent surge in 'membership' in parts of the West, and in the East the numbers who are becoming new Christians daily is astronomical. There are estimated now nearly 100 million Christians in China (compared with just 5,000 in the 1960s) and in South Korea, churches regularly have tens of thousands of members each. In one church, the Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, there are over 800,000 members who meet each Sunday in several sittings in a vast hall. It is difficult to give a definite answer to the actual number of Christians in the world (estimates range from 2 - 3 billion), Christianity remains the most dominant of the world religions, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.


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