Cannabis With it or against it?
 

simple question

with me im with it. I smoke cannabis on a weekly baises

Not really bothered, it's just kind of there.

Against it.

Cannot stand it, done it before so cant say you havent tried it so you have no say, which is ridiculous anyway.

Dont really care if someone has it but if they are smoking near me they know its being ripped up..

idk i wouldn't try it, i won't even try smoking.
so against it really.

Against it.

with it, i've smoked it loads.

with it, its the most harmless drug out of the lot of them....

This has been done to death a million times and it always turns out the same. When will people learn? Internet + Drug Debates = Overdose of misinformed idiots.

As for weed? I'm known to be partial to it here and there.

You impress me more each day. :lovedup:

i <3 CANNABIS

i have to be with it seeing as i smoke it basically every day
it really is not as bad as some people think

Yeah but some people who start off smoking cannabis tend to move onto stronger drugs..

aw haha :p
i hate smoking, makes me feel sick.

But thats not the drug, thats the person.......addictive personalities and all that....

Same.
Never tried a cigarette lol.

Just waiting for someone to bring alcohol into it..lol

If it were legalised, more people would give it a go, and those with the addictive personalities would move onto stronger drugs.

But its still not the drug, its the person, thats the point im trying to make...

And if you make it legal, your putting lots of people who wouldnt take the drug but will now it had become legal, lives at risk. Its ok saying cannabis is harmless, but if they move onto cocaine or whatnot because cannabis no longer becomes 'enough', there is serious health risks for them. And it all stemed from taking cannabis in the first place.

Yeah but the same could be said for nearly everything food, drink, cigarettes, prescription medication.

Your still missing my point here, your saying about cocaine and stuff which is fine I agree, but its still not cannabis that is harming people......i think we'll agree to disagree because this is going nowhere!!!! :spin:

Who says? Local Dutch teens are amongst the lowest consumers in Europe and it's virtually legal there.

The gateway drug argument is B.S. too. It's because of the fact that it's illegal that you have to go to a drug dealer and possibly get offered other stuff.

The gateway drug argument has long been a basless fabrication of the prohibitionists. There's nothing factual or scientific behind it.

Yeah but if I move from cheese strings to babybels, babybels arnt a threat to my life, cannabis to cocaine would be.

I know what you saying about cannabis doesnt really harm you, its the fact it can open gateways to stronger drugs which is its problem.

And ok :) But yeah imo it should not be legalised.

If its in Private
it should not be a problem,
but if you Drive - Then the need to arrest you for that.



Get Down and Get Funky
Watch Out For Them Junkies.

The simple fact you wont get in trouble for taking it will draw people to use it as stress relief or fun. And those who currently take it will probably take it more if it was allowed.

The drug can become not 'enough' for you because you get addicted and you then search for harder drugs yourself.

So god forbid more people are less stressed and fun?

Your gateway drug argument is still basless and constructed merely on phohibitionist assumptions. That's like saying coca cola is not enough for people so they move onto vodka. Or sniffing lynx is not enough for people so they jump off bridges for 'da buzz'.

Even the government are running out of motivation in the U.S. There are coffee shops opening up in California now and nobody cares anymore. If Obama is re-elected for a second term he could push for full legalisation or at the least decriminalization.

The point is, you can't throw people in prison cells for growing a plant and smoking it and not harming anybody but themselves. Think about it. It's riddiculous.

Its Explains why you have not been online for a while.

Coca Cola and sniffing Lynx is less addictive than smoking cannabis.

And for example, when yor first start smoking fags, your nicotine level is low so you only need a few a day, but after a year your nicotine level is built up so you need a lot more a day. Same goes with cannabis, and instead of having lots of it, you move onto harder drugs so you have need a smaller dose for the same affect as all the cannabis would have on you.

Says who? Sorry Jords but there is no substance behind what you are saying on this. You can't compare nicotine addiction to smoking weed. And caffeine is more addictive than Cannabis, making Coca Cola more addictive than weed. I'd rather give up weed than coffee. Sniffing lynx is also far more damaging than smoking weed. Solvent abuse can be inseperable with lung and organ damage.

A part of me thinks against it.. the part that hates smoking and would never think of doing weed.. but another part of me is for the legalisation.. If they legalised it.. the government could monitor it a lot better.

Addicition is the same with everything. The longer you have of something the more you want it. And thats goes to you, not everybody will give up canabis over coffee, and what about those who dont drink coffee, sniff lynx or whatever else your trying to compare it with.

Its not the fact cannabis doesnt really harm you, its the fact it may lead you onto harder drugs, which is does, stop saying there is no substance there when there blates is. And these harder drugs are more addictive than your coffee.

i done cocaine for a few months before going onto weed. so not everyone actually does get an addiction and as someone said its not the weed making you go onto stronger stuff its yourself :L no ones pushing you to do it.

But there is no substance behind what you are saying. It's all just your assumption. Compare the amount of Heroin users with the amount of Cannabis users. Thousands versus millions. And please don't say addiction for everything is the same. Cannabis withdrawal is being an irritable, sleepless bastard for a few days. Heroin withdrawal is eight days of coughing your guts up in the toilet and risking shock and death. An alcohol hangover is worse than giving up Cannabis.

Why aren't Alcohol and Tobacco been seen as gateway drugs, here?

Also weed makes me alot more social my brother smokes weed, now he asks me if he wants to come out and wack some bongs. and me and my brother wasnt very close its actually the only times we talk is when we're stoned (or smoking a joint etc) or making a joint or sorting out a bong. x

I never said symptons of withdrawel are the same, I said the definition of addiction is the same for all things - the longer you have it the more you'll want it.

And you guys are not reading what I am putting >.< Lemo I know its about personalites, legalising the drug would make more people try it, and those with the addictive personalities may move onto the harder drugs, I know cannabis isnt really that harmful, its how it is a gateway.

And the argument about why isnt alcohol and tobacco illegal then is always brought up. And tbh I dont know, probably because the trend is that people who drink alcohol and have tobacco dont tend to move onto hard drugs, but people who smoke cannabis may do - or at least at lot more than alcochol and tobacco users.

Not a Good Sign.


Hell of a Rut you are in.



Drugs change you.

That's absoloute bollocks. There's no facts behind what you are saying.

I said I dont know probably, but tbh I can see more cannabis users moving on to harder drugs than alcohol drinkers and tobacco smokers.

Well unfortunately there is no evidence to suggest what you are saying.

drugs havent changed me one bit. if it did. then why do i have the same friends now telling me i havent changed :L I dont see anyones problem with smoking weed. hey if you smoke coffee then you're just going to go on harder stuff like caffine pills (coffee has caffine in and thats a drug) and if you do a drug you "change" lol no. i havent changed one single bit. ive been smoked weed untill i became a hardcore smoker (since like february last year) and i havent "changed" a single bit. it makes me sooo relaxed. and just happy that ive got my fam friends and bf.



also

cannabis is highly used in the USA for medical reasons.

People ignore the fact that the stoned state, to the vast majority, is a very relaxing, sociable, spiritually beneficial state of mind. And I have no ambitions whatsoever to go shooting junk in to my balls just because I hit bongs like crazy.