Chinese 'to create new legal highs'
 

Sky News

haha

It's the analogue drug age. It's a neverending battle the government wont win. Free our herb and people wont bother with this dirty crap.

If clean, pure MDMA were legal, those kids would not have died from taking Mephedrone as Mephedrone would never have been synthesized.

Thats true

However it could precipitate a knee jerk reaction and the government bring in something like the US Analogue Drug Act, which turned out to be a fluster cuck of the highest order by preventing legitimate research as well as giving lots of loopholes for the people they were trying to prosecute.

Simple- ban legal highs. Any form. Its obvious what they are and how you get them.

those cheeky chinese, what are they like :hugesmile:

Getting Rich
while some of the Young people that
take there junk
Die

Impossible. Unless you have a solution. How do you ban legal highs without banning ... well ... chemistry?

i would ban young people

By banning anything produced and sold under a product item with the intent to use as a legal high.

Meow meow isn't to be used as fertiliser, poppers isn't meant to be used as room odouriser etc ...

You can't put a blanket rule down because of the amount of loopholes, it requires more common sense if anything.

And what you are suggesting is a blanket rule.

You cannot ban anything with the intent to use as a legal high. That would be impossible to legislate. It's not actually a law. It's an absurd suggestion. And drinkers, smokers and glue sniffers of the world would all become criminals under it.

Alcohol and cigarettes aren't sold as something else, so no they won't become criminals under it.

Just ban the sale of any substances (within reason) that can be used as a legal high.

I get what your suggesting but you cannot legislate it. That's the problem. As novel as it is to suggest, and maybe you think it is something that must change, right now you cannot just draw up laws out of thin air like that. You have to ban each of the substances one by one or pass an analogue ban, carpeting over a whole clusterfuck of chemicals. You cannot just ban everything people use to get off their tits that's not called Alcohol.

bearing in mind the small number of deaths would it just not be better to spend more time on reducing the deaths due to cigs and alcohol. It is laughable that there is an outcry to "ban" this substance and yet still sell cigarettes!

Yeah but where would the govenment find a replacement for the revenue generated by alcohol and cigarettes?

They could use legal highs, but then that would mean setting up a regulatory body, legislation to ensure purity, more departments to then investigate ...... but all that costs investments, that they arent guaranteed to get returns on in the same way they do with the licensed and taxed poisons they graciously allow us to consume.

Zero, in fact. If I am not mistaken there is, as of yet, zero proven deaths as a direct result of Mephedrone intoxication.

Cigarettes are legal because the British economy would go into meltdown without them because of the amount it makes the government in tax. Thats why they're phasing smoking out, so they can become less reliant on the money it produces.

then as money is more important than life lets make some cash out of selling this substance to students

You can't be reliant on money you don't have!

Incredible.......Exactly WHAT is funny about a killer drug being produced..........

What killer drug is that? (refers bananarama back to post 16 on this thread which is factually correct)

I think this is the most sensible post I have ever seen you make to be honest.

Media goes into meltdown because of a couple of deaths, which they cant even prove were directly due to the drug (which is kind of like saying I ate a chocolate bar while crossing the road and got knocked over, it was the chocolate bars fault). Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of deaths are caused by something the government makes a sh*tload of money out of, these should be ignored, because the goverment is benefitting from it.

Of course it would be more practical to spend more on getting people off drink and tabs, but they will not do that, as money is more important than peoples lives...but they have to be seen to be doing something, so they focus on the couple of high profile deaths that have hit the papers recently. Honestly...more people are killed by falling coconuts than by this, whats next? Ban coconuts?

How very true Leather though I dont suppose you should really award it to yourself

Sorry to be pedantic here it isnt actually a case of "making sh*tloads of money from them", its the fact if cigarettes or alcohol were banned or even severely restricted, the cost of treating the current and future casualties caused by the current and past use of those substances would in fact leave the NHS bankrupt. The treatment costs are more than offset by the revenue gained from usage.

The current policy is gradually limiting the use and educating in the hope of reducing use or abuse while still ensuring income will come in from those using them. It is then hoped that costs of treatment will fall in line with revenue generated leaving a reasonable balance between income and costs.

Even if everyone stopped drinking and smoking today, there would still be future costs for the treatment of their use, such as long term current and future, degenerative liver disease, cirrhosis of the liver, lung cancers, emphysema, asthma, etc. but greatly reduced income to the exchequer to pay for it all.

How many people were killed in the UK last year as a result of falling coconuts btw?

Smoking is slowly being phased out- first the change in packets, then the ban on advertising, then phase 1 of the smoking ban and now its suggested they're expanding that into cars. They're reducing the number of smokers so they can ween themselves off the money generated. Its too substantial to be lost in one go. I think they'll carry on until there is a complete ban.

About 150 a year

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-w...5875-17495916/

Strange I know :D


And probably none from last year in the uk, just read that properly :laugh:

PMSL think thats around the world in general as opposed to specifically in the UK. I seen one put a lad in hospital in Central America, he was in a hammock under some coconut trees and a ripe nut fell on his lower abdomen, shattered his hip. They are very heavy till the husk dries out.

But deodrant can be used to get high so can tipex, paint, petrol, you can't do that really