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Sticks 17-04-2010 04:19 PM

Is it time to bring back transatlantic passenger ships
 
In light of the fact that the volcanic eruption in Iceland has grounded aircraft across Europe, and they could be grounded for months, going by past experience of Icelandic eruptions, Is it now time to bring back passenger ships going across the Atlantic?

King Gizzard 17-04-2010 04:27 PM

arrrrr yes http://mdeering.com/assets/0000/0103/pirate.png

Shasown 17-04-2010 04:35 PM

How long do you think it takes to build a transatlantic passenger liner?

InOne 17-04-2010 04:38 PM

Hmmmmm, i'll just wait till it clears

Sticks 17-04-2010 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3170796)
How long do you think it takes to build a transatlantic passenger liner?

For the short term already have cruise liners for pleasure cruises, all you have to do is put them into service for crossing the Atlantic. In the meanwhile this would produce jobs for UK shipyards.

Shasown 17-04-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3170804)
For the short term already have cruise liners for pleasure cruises, all you have to do is put them into service for crossing the Atlantic. In the meanwhile this would produce jobs for UK shipyards.

Pleasure cruise vessels may not be capable of transatlantic passage. (Fuel Capacity, etc.). Besises there is also the economic viability of transatlantic passage. Would the owners of the cruise liners let you take them off a very profitable task for what may turn out to be a short term and uneconomic use?

Oh I know we could always ask the Royal Navy to drop whatever they are doing and use their frigates, destroyers and submarines to run a shuttle service to the US.

UK shipyards run like a lot of businesses economically, in other words the ones that have work on the order books stay in business, others get closed. Are you naive enough to think they could just open them next week and start building ships.

Vessels have to be designed, contracts agreed, materials ordered and delivered, the work force has to be trained. So yeah if you start the process off now you might have the first liner rolling off the slipway in about 5 years probably more though. Then you can expect it to have to be fitted out and undergo sea worthiness trials, you might see your liner starting to carry passengers in say 8-10 years or so.

arista 17-04-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3170760)
In light of the fact that the volcanic eruption in Iceland has grounded aircraft across Europe, and they could be grounded for months, going by past experience of Icelandic eruptions, Is it now time to bring back passenger ships going across the Atlantic?


Of course
some clever people contacted Cargo Ship owners
and paid for a bed and a room back to the UK


The sad thing is
Kenya Farmers had loads of Fresh Snap Beans packed
foe Every UK Supermarkets
now gone rotten.
so it time now for us to start growing more.

arista 17-04-2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 3170776)


This is a Good Point
as some Ships get Hijacked.

There was a China Owned ship being attacked by Machine Gun Pirates
so they used a Water cannon
blowing them out of there boats.


So any Ships
should now have a High Powered Water Cannon
rigged up by Remote control.


It will stop the Rotten Pirates who think they can take people and ships.

arista 17-04-2010 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3170796)
How long do you think it takes to build a transatlantic passenger liner?


China can build one and deliver it in 6weeks.

Scarlett. 17-04-2010 05:24 PM

^ It'd be just the hull, nothing inside like those cheap toy cars you got as a kid

Shasown 17-04-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3170871)
China can build one and deliver it in 6weeks.

Rubbish!

Sticks 17-04-2010 06:29 PM

Pleasure Cruise ships can be adapted and can make it across the North Atlantic, after all a number of them were retro fitted in 1982 to take part in the armada that went down to the Falklands and that was longer in the South Atlantic.

So in time of national emergency, which is what this is, it can be done and has been done.

Claymores 17-04-2010 07:13 PM

Are you being deliberately obtuse Sticks? Please answer my query in announcements

Shasown 17-04-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3171032)
Pleasure Cruise ships can be adapted and can make it across the North Atlantic, after all a number of them were retro fitted in 1982 to take part in the armada that went down to the Falklands and that was longer in the South Atlantic.

So in time of national emergency, which is what this is, it can be done and has been done.

Its not really an emergency just yet Sticks, take off the steel helmet and flak jacket, unman the barricade. Turn off the panic siren and stand down COBRA.

Weather conditions are holding the stuff in the air, its true, hwoever wind and temperature changes will cause the ash to move and eventually fall to earth. Probably well before your liner plans are off the drawing board.

As for the boats pressed into service for the Falklands, the Canberra and the QE 2, they werent retro fitted, they were ocean going cruise liners. However that was for the transport of troops, for use in a conflict, it doesnt have the same urgency, requisitioning non ocean going liners to take people to Disneyland etc, does it? Why should one group of holiday makers have priority over another.

Its not really necessary to fly to the states for business after all with the use of internet conferences, video conferences and highly reliable telecommunication links.

pinkmichk 17-04-2010 08:03 PM

how is it a national emergency ahh diddums some people cant get on holiday

InOne 17-04-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkmichk (Post 3171362)
how is it a national emergency ahh diddums some people cant get on holiday

What about if a relative was dying abroad?

Sticks 17-04-2010 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3171172)
Are you being deliberately obtuse Sticks? Please answer my query in announcements

Which query? Where?

I have looked for it and can not find it.

'Conor 17-04-2010 09:51 PM

i can see it already.... "Titanic 2.0"

Callum 17-04-2010 09:52 PM

After Titanic, I think many people would be afraid to step on board a transatlantic ship.

Shasown 17-04-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3171696)
Which query? Where?

I have looked for it and can not find it.

Try the thread on duplicate accounts

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...61#post3167261

Claymores asked you about hiding Ip's etc


Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3171497)
What about if a relative was dying abroad?

Hardly a national emergency, but pretty much the same thing if all airports were closed because of severe weather.

Mrluvaluva 17-04-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum (Post 3171732)
After Titanic, I think many people would be afraid to step on board a transatlantic ship.

Lol. And you never hear of plane crashes do you? The Titanic sank well before your time.

Shasown 17-04-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 3171771)
Lol. And you never hear of plane crashes do you? The Titanic sank well before your time.

Nope aint ever heard of a plane crashing into an Iceberg, have you?

Mrluvaluva 17-04-2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3171836)
Nope aint ever heard of a plane crashing into an Iceberg, have you?

That is very true. Ain't ever heard of a boat losing use of it's engines at 10,000 ft in the air either.

Harry! 17-04-2010 10:22 PM

I refuse to board a big bot the size of a cruse ship. Not because I am scared it may have a fault on board its because I am afraid I might fall overboard!

Shasown 17-04-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 3171845)
That is very true. Ain't ever heard of a boat losing use of it's engines at 10,000 ft in the air either.

Have to admit, thats also very true. Nor do boats depressurise rapidly.

Saying that though taking into account the millions of miles travelled, air travel is still the safest means of transportation. But to be doubly sure, get the seat over the black box near the rear of the aircraft. (planes dont back into mountains)

Callum 17-04-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 3171771)
Lol. And you never hear of plane crashes do you? The Titanic sank well before your time.

Yes but personally I know it's shallow but I would fully refuse to board a transatlantic ship just because of what happened with the Titanic. I hate ships, ever since watching Titanic I've always imagined sinking on a ship.

Claymores 17-04-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3171696)
Which query? Where?

I have looked for it and can not find it.

Should have gone to specsavers - it's the thread at the top of the pile about duplicate accounts with last post by Claymores.

Shasown 17-04-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3172038)
Should have gone to specsavers - it's the thread at the top of the pile about duplicate accounts with last post by Claymores.

PMSL. Nice subtle answer there.

Sticks 18-04-2010 04:51 AM

I already said in that thread, some of the tricks of the trade we do not divulge as mods so those we ban do not find a work around, now please do not hijack this thread.

arista 18-04-2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkmichk (Post 3171362)
how is it a national emergency ahh diddums some people cant get on holiday


No its the folks trying to return to the UK
to go to work that matters.
And the Megga Costs.


And all the Fresh Food now going Rotten as it has not
had Planes to Fly it fast to the UK.

pinkmichk 18-04-2010 07:39 AM

but if someone was dying a boat is hardly gonna be the quickest route there is it?
oh and it is personally affecting me cos i have family stuck in cyprus my uncle had to track down emergency medication as cos he staying longer he run out so obviously i want them home but i'd rather they be safe and stuck there for however long than be on a plane that crashes
lots of people are complaining purely about not getting on holiday not about getting back to work etc

arista 18-04-2010 07:47 AM

Of Course a Boat is Slower
but at least you can get on the move and sleep on the Journey.


What Sticks has pointed out is these Volcanic Ash clouds
could increase so much thatr having Ships ,as well, is wise.


On many Radio Stations and News stations
people have stated they are due to Work tomorrow.
Its not just Holiday people

arista 18-04-2010 09:20 AM

If this Volcanic Ash grounds Air Transport for Months
the UK will run out of Food.

We do not produce enough food to support
60million.

Scarlett. 18-04-2010 12:29 PM

I actually agree with this now, the kjujsjjjhfhhthdbbbbsiithghjgioghhjhjsiifhguiiiiifh ghgiifi volcano could apparently be erupting for a few months

arista 18-04-2010 01:02 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...62_634x417.jpg

Scarlett. 18-04-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3172612)

I saw that picture, ****ing amazing

Crimson Dynamo 18-04-2010 01:59 PM

i am on the volcano's side in this war

God's volcano

Vicky. 18-04-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3172612)

I know its a disaster and that...but you cant deny that looks amazingly gorgeous

Shasown 18-04-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3172252)
Of Course a Boat is Slower
but at least you can get on the move and sleep on the Journey.


What Sticks has pointed out is these Volcanic Ash clouds
could increase so much thatr having Ships ,as well, is wise.


On many Radio Stations and News stations
people have stated they are due to Work tomorrow.
Its not just Holiday people

Edited insults out...

Most of the food we receive comes in by ship anyway, its only fast depreciating food stuffs that come in by air, and not a lot of that because its so expensive. I would suggest a little research on the panic merchants behalf to find out which desperately needed foodstuff we require to live off that will be affected.

Fuck me sideways and the answer is NONE because its only bloody luxuries, Gee you dont think thats why the Government isnt really too concerned, that and the fact that self righteous idiots are the ones who start panics, including panic buying when there really is no need?

However did we survive before the advent of the aeroplane, oh thats right we didnt, we all starved and died till someone invented it.

Shasown 18-04-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3172292)
If this Volcanic Ash grounds Air Transport for Months
the UK will run out of Food.

We do not produce enough food to support
60million.

I dub thee Sir Arista panic merchant extraordinaire and court fool of the highest order.

Before shouting fire its best to see what smoke there really is. Methinks Sir Sticks has been blowing it out of his arse


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