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Patrick 18-04-2010 11:40 AM

Can Big Brother Survive on Another Channel?
 
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As we prepare for the last series on Channel 4, we ask can Big Brother really survive on another channel?

Big Brother definitely hasn’t stayed out of the spotlight since it began in 2000 in a small house in Bow, East London. Whether the news be positive or negative, the show has never failed to create a stir in the media. It’s the reality show that many have loved to hate. Channel 4 announced last year that Big Brother 11 would be its last on the channel, leaving Endemol in the dark about Big Brother 12.

The show has been Channel 4’s flagship for the past ten years, bringing in some of the best ratings that the channel has seen. However in recent years, the format seems to have been neglected. Gone is the series hype with clever advertising on billboards and the 24 hour live feed; could this have really dampened the show’s future?

Endemol, the show’s producers, will be eager to find a new home for the programme once it has finished. Five and Sky ruled out taking on the reality show, but then it emerged that Five may be interested in the popular Celebrity Big Brother format. One major hurdle which Endemol face is persuading broadcasters that Big Brother still has a future. With Channel 4 neglecting the show, the show’s ratings have slid away. Some night’s only attracting a mere 2 million viewers, only a few years earlier, a highlights show may have attracted 5 or 6 million.

If Endemol could secure a deal with another channel, then perhaps the format could be saved. Being rid of the heavy restraints and budget cuts, the show could come out of the black hole that it is currently sat in. Bigger advertising campaigns would be a big element in its success, proving to the general public that Big Brother is back, bigger and better than ever. Another factor which would ultimately seal its fate would be the execution of the series; clever twists and tasks are needed to give the highlights shows a much needed boost. The housemates are also very important, gimmicks and ‘clear winners’ are no good for the show. Where have all of the ‘normal’ civilians gone?

Finally, Davina MUST stay! Big Brother isn’t Big Brother without her. The ratings would slump even further if she was to be sacked. The original format must also remain, but with decisive changes.

Big Brother could have a bright future on another broadcaster if the right changes were made and enough support was pledged by the channel to support it!

-Inside Big Brother

ILoveTRW 18-04-2010 11:42 AM

tbh id rather it just ended

Firewire 18-04-2010 11:44 AM

something makes me think that you didn't write this.

Patrick 18-04-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 3172480)
something makes me think that you didn't write this.

I didnt say I did LOL

Its from Inside Big Brother, I was posting it on here to see what others thought.
:)

Stacey. 18-04-2010 11:53 AM

yeah, i think [and hope] it can :D

Firewire 18-04-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172481)
I didnt say I did LOL

Its from Inside Big Brother, I was posting it on here to see what others thought.
:)

oh ok lol.

WOMBAI 18-04-2010 11:55 AM

No - its had its day! Nothing goes on forever!

Patrick 18-04-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 3172505)
No - its had its day! Nothing goes on forever!

Big Brother in other countries is still going on, ours is clearly the best and the most entertaining so I dont see why it cant go on.

So BB10 went into a dark hole of 1 Million per night, but CBB7 Proved it can be good again I just hope Five dont buy Celebrity Big Brother 8 and ignore Big Brother 12 :(

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 12:01 PM

I think it's time to let it go. It was amazing the time it lasted but it ran out its time.

zotler. 18-04-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172514)
Big Brother in other countries is still going on, ours is clearly the best and the most entertaining so I dont see why it cant go on.

So BB10 went into a dark hole of 1 Million per night, but CBB7 Proved it can be good again I just hope Five dont buy Celebrity Big Brother 8 and ignore Big Brother 12 :(

Clearly ours is not the best and most entertaining if it's still going on in other countries.

Firewire 18-04-2010 12:04 PM

I think it's time to let it go.

Patrick 18-04-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zotler. (Post 3172526)
Clearly ours is not the best and most entertaining if it's still going on in other countries.


Clearly it is. :p

Its just the fact C4 want to revamp their channel.

Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

In other countries its just a TV Show where as here its like a big thing every year.

Scarlett. 18-04-2010 12:18 PM

No, it's had its day

Jordan. 18-04-2010 01:10 PM

Id rather if it wasnt continuing on C4 not go to another channel just incase it is complety killed. Its better to go off on a high on C4 and possibly return in a few years time.

Scarlett. 18-04-2010 01:11 PM

Yeah, if another channel did get it, it wouldnt be BB as you know it

BigBrotherfan4ever 18-04-2010 01:25 PM

I would love it to go to another channel
but as others have said, i think if
it did, it just wouldn't be the same,
cause i think they would mess with format
in some way or another.

BrooklynFan 18-04-2010 01:33 PM

I think it needs to drop so many spin off shows. and it needs to take the contestants credit cards and charge them for food instead of depending ont asks and shopping lists.

Glenn. 18-04-2010 01:38 PM

It can barely survive on C4. Its had its time. Let it die, and bring it back in 10yrs!

Sticks 18-04-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172473)
Another factor which would ultimately seal its fate would be the execution of the series

What they actually want a housemate executed? :shocked:

If you could tune in to see a housemate die for real, would you watch?

Would they get anyone volunteering to go on this if there was the possibility they might be the one executed? Would they tempt people with a larger prize fund?

I would love to see the contract that would allow that, plus they might have to film it out side of UK waters as some lawyer might object to the deliberate killing of a contestant.

Or am I being a bit obtuse here :whistle:

MeMyselfAndI 18-04-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 3172685)
What they actually want a housemate executed? :shocked:

If you could tune in to see a housemate die for real, would you watch?

Would they get anyone volunteering to go on this if there was the possibility they might be the one executed? Would they tempt people with a larger prize fund?

I would love to see the contract that would allow that, plus they might have to film it out side of UK waters as some lawyer might object to the deliberate killing of a contestant.

Or am I being a bit obtuse here :whistle:

he meant the series getting executed not a housemate

Princess 18-04-2010 02:13 PM

Nope,it's time for it to end now.

*mazedsalv** 18-04-2010 02:29 PM

There IS still life in BB, I know there is. Another channel will trat it better, but it should come back in 2012 or 2013 after a 2/3 year rest IMO.

Look at all the other BBs which are controlled all by Endemol. The 10th edition of Italian BB (Grande Fratello) was the most watched series to date getting a peak of 10m in the finale and like a 60% share, with an average of 6-7m. When a few years ago (I think the 7th series) was getting less.

ITV would be the best to do it, But that wont ever happen. So either Sky1 or Five are the most possible.

Also its because i could have auditioned for a BB12 as i would be old enough, I always wanted to. Im a stable person, i wont break down with the popularity (or hatred)... because my family keeps me happy.

Patrick 18-04-2010 02:33 PM

Yeah Salv, thats one of the reasons I would like it to return in a few years so I could audition, if it returns next year (Too early) it could fail and the other channel would remove it and that would well and truely be the end of it and we wouldnt get a chance to audition.


Does anyone else know if theres a possibility of Channel 4 ever taking it back in a few years time?

I know for sure another channel would be intrested in picking it up 2 or 3 years down the line but what about its original home C4 actually taking it back after a break?

Would they attempt that?

*mazedsalv** 18-04-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172732)
Yeah Salv, thats one of the reasons I would like it to return in a few years so I could audition, if it returns next year (Too early) it could fail and the other channel would remove it and that would well and truely be the end of it and we wouldnt get a chance to audition.


Does anyone else know if theres a possibility of Channel 4 ever taking it back in a few years time?

I know for sure another channel would be intrested in picking it up 2 or 3 years down the line but what about its original home C4 actually taking it back after a break?

Would they attempt that?


Well if all their replacement shows fail they would have to consider to have it back. The only C4 pullers at the moment are Embarassing Bodies, One Born a Minute, Location Location (and possibly CDWM).
When they are not on air, what will happen? I have read the details of the replacement shows, they look terrible. They could fail, like Unanimous did.

officialleafan 18-04-2010 02:46 PM

I think any show has potential to live on, especially something like Big Brother because it can be quite different every year.

If it was a question of "will they get their ratings back up again", i'd say no, but i really hope that Channel 5 or someone can take the show on because i can't stand the thought of this time next year, no BB being on :(

Shasown 18-04-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172473)
As we prepare for the last series on Channel 4, we ask can Big Brother really survive on another channel?



Finally, Davina MUST stay! Big Brother isn’t Big Brother without her. The ratings would slump even further if she was to be sacked. The original format must also remain, but with decisive changes.

Big Brother could have a bright future on another broadcaster if the right changes were made and enough support was pledged by the channel to support it!

Yes it would nice be nice to see another station air BB if thats what you mean, whilst you post showed your loyalty for the show which is commendable, it also showed some strange idiosynchrasies.

The show didnt lose support because of a lack of advertising, the show lost viewers because its decided to turn it into a freak show as opposed to a show that had main stream appeal.

The original format doesnt bear too close a resemblance to the freak show they now have( Housemates allowed out of the house into the centre of London, last years partnership puke fest).

What do you mean the original format with decisive changes?

Its not about a channel supporting it, its about sponsors wanting to sponsor it in the hope the increased advertising they receive has a good effect on sales of their product.

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172540)
Clearly it is. :p

Its just the fact C4 want to revamp their channel.

Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.

In other countries its just a TV Show where as here its like a big thing every year.

It clearly isn't big here anymore Patrick. It had literally almost 0 media coverage last year.
Contrary to many countries, the UK version of BB isn't "the show" no one can miss, it got eaten alive by BGT, the X Factor, there's no fever anymore.

Take a look in Italy, in Spain, in the Philippines, in Germany...

Raph 18-04-2010 03:21 PM

Yes. Honestly, BBUK is the most wicked show ever! It'll do well anywhere ;)

Patrick 18-04-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by officialleafan (Post 3172765)
i can't stand the thought of this time next year, no BB being on :(

IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 3172908)
IKR.

Even if it does get picked up, I cant see it all happening within a year.

I actually wont know what to do with myself come Summer 2011.. It will be dark times, dark times indeed.

That may seem incrediably sad to anyone who isnt a BB Fan but if you've spent Over 5 Years watching a show to the point it becomes part of your summer (Like im sure you all have) well then it feels really awkward and sad without it.

That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

iRyan 18-04-2010 04:44 PM

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Big Brother isnt as big as it is in other countries as it is here, in America I dont even think they have BB News on their papers or anything.
That's true, but it's because in America there are ACTUAL celebrities that people care more to hear about, unfortunely. I personally am so sick of our obsession over celebrities.

But it is still extremely popular, most of the people I know in my school all watch it and talk about it. And it does get media coverage in the beginning, and to some extent some of the people who have been on it experience some fame, like Jeff and Jordan from BB11.

Alot of people say ours is fake and edited to death, but really it's not and that's why people watch the live feeds. So you know EXACTLY what is going on, but most people tune into the real show to see the competitions because those don't air on the feeds. As a live feeds watcher, most of what is shown in the edited shows is true to what is actually occuring on the feeds. Although it can be in some cases where once CBS discovers a fan favorite, they are edited to be the "star of the show" since it's what people want to see.

One of the things that makes the show so popular is that it's heavily advertised. CBS is argueably the biggest and most powerful television station in the US, and the president of CBS' wife hosts the show. Therefore, it's probably not something that would be easily cancelled. But anyway, like every 20 minutes on the channel they show a commercial advertising the show. Like when Chima quit, it was SO heavily hyped and advertised that that episode became the highest rated of the series.

Ruth*Star 18-04-2010 04:52 PM

It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

Patrick 18-04-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruth*Star (Post 3173105)
It is still popular in America, It did fantastic ratings there last year as far as i know.

I didnt say it wasnt.

Im not talking about USA.

MrGaryy 18-04-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3172915)
That's what happened to the few of us in here who loved Big Brother Australia. It felt so so empty when it got cancelled. It usually was held around april/may and something didn't feel right but you overcome this and you find something else to do. :hugesmile: I still miss it tho.

I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

Captain.Remy 18-04-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3173123)
I miss BBAU very much still LOL. But at least it went out on a high!

I know. I even came to the conclusion that I miss Gretel LMAO :hugesmile: I sometimes do watch random clips on Youtube. It was brilliant.

Harry! 18-04-2010 06:29 PM

It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Tom4784 18-04-2010 06:38 PM

The thing is that the general public just don't care anymore, any other channel could pick it up and it'll be dropped after a series because the format is tired and old hat.

BBitterLemons 18-04-2010 07:03 PM

I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

Patrick 18-04-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Recylopse (Post 3173245)
It will have lower raitings on another channel.

Depends on BB11 Does and how much the other channel put effort into it.

BigBrotherfan4ever 18-04-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBitterLemons (Post 3173323)
I think TV stations are trying to play down buying BB because it would seem to be uncool at the moment, the show isn't as it was before BUT.. when the time comes, I bet there will be bidding wars. BB is a guaranteed money-maker even if it never regains its original sky-high ratings.

I hope your right BL, i think maybe when BB starts in a few week we will here of different channel in bidding for it..BTBH i really dont see anyone taking it sadly:bawling:


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