the anti gay marriage thing
 

i dont get why people dont agree with gay marriage if they dont have a problem with gay people :conf:

Its the whole I don't mind gay people but....... thing. Usually with people like Dave it means they think your going to hell.

Dave like the rest of us has a right to his opinion

homophobe

He's Christian, what do you expect?

Of course he does. Sadly I don't think he has the right to judge people on their morals though.

Same I mean you can't really say you accept gay people but then not let them have equal rights with straight people. It contradicts what he said.

Marriage for some people is a religious thing and not just a social custom.

No way !! far from it ,I have a gay nephew and LOTS of gay mates ,but just because I see no wrong doesnt mean everyone thinks the same ,everyone has a right to thieir own opinion

i dont agree with any marriage total ****ing waste of time imo

YOU jumped on someone earlier for shouting RACIST ,but its ok for YOU to shout homophobe?

To me, anyone who doesn't support gay marriage is a ****ing idiot.

Thats very true. Personally I don't think marriage is that significant, after all its just a piece of paper saying you are in a relationship with someone. But because I'm gay, I think we should have equal rights and be allowed to marry one another, I mean love is love right??

He is a homophobic bigot I am afraid

Civil marriage between to people of the same sex is fine Gays these days have equal right in this country I find this kind of homophobia discusting in 21st century britain its seems like its become the new racism

:hello:

when was that?

I support you and all gay people with this even though I am straight myself I have no problem with gays at all and I mean what I say

Gay marriage isn't allowed in Britain - just some dumbass civil partnership crap. And homophobia was just as disgusting as in any other century.

Marriage to me is just a social custom so it's not a big deal to me. For others though it may go against their beliefs. I don't think it's about being a 'homophobe'. After all if everyone was homosexual there would be no human race it would just die out, lol. I don't agree with homosexual adoption so much, at least I think priority should be given to heterosexual couples as a child has a right to have both a mother and a father if possible.

It's ironic what Dave said considering how touchy feely he has been with Mario since Day 1. Me thinks he might be so far in the closet he's back in the party room with Govan.

on another thread earlier tonight

Thanks! Its nice to hear that once in a while! :hug:

At least dave had the guts to stick to his principles it would have been far easier for him to say yes il do your ceremony thinking il never have to anyway.

I am aware of this I have a gay friend who feels very strongly about this matter

The fact of the matter is if racism can be put to one side so can homophobia It shouldn`t be mainstream these days its wrong

Just a hunch as to why he wouldn't say it was wrong...100 000k?

I also do agree everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it is 70 years out of date and based on a book.

You are welcome :thumbs:

A homophobe by any other name, as Shakespeare didn't say. I think he thought that he'd get away with his comments about gay marriage as long as he didn't say (to the viewing public who were watching) that he didn't like gay people.

Marriage is a religious thing and being gay is a "sin" in the bible so obviously the church doesn't want to have gay marriages in the house of the lord.
The Christain faith has been around for a VERY long time and you cant just change it and scrub certain bits out the bible that you dont really like.
Gay people can have a civil ceremony which is a great thing for them to have.

I think a child has a right to be loved.

Whether that's with mum and dad, dad and dad or mum and mum.

Straight parents don't have the monopoly on good parenting you know.

i know a few people that couldnt get married by people of the cloth because they werent the same religion (pros/cath) some people wont marry couples for many stupid reasons. doesnt mean they are anti those people, just that they take the stance of the church. Doesnt mean that dave is homophobic, just means the church is.

Yes, I had the same thoughts when he had his arm round Mario on tonight's H/L

This.


As for philip. a ****ing idiot for not agreeing with gay marrige thats harsh isnt it?

Yeh, but an example for a child from a mother AND a father I think is quite useful, and really that would be the case in a normal conception of a child (which would obviously be between a man and a woman, with sperm and ovaries). That's just the facts of life, hard to avoid really lol.

I assume marriage was originally established as an institution to promote a stable environment for development of a family. Nowadays it can mean other things. Of course societies are different over time and in different places, but children are still conceived in the same way. People can have whatever relationships they want but it's logical to expect that the normal situation for a child is to have both mother and father, after all that is what they were born with.

:conf: I bet you all want the government to cut benefits and services to make things better!!!:nono: DERRR!!! Bloody Dimmocks.

i see your point, but you don't have to be in a relationship to concieve a child.
personally, i see no harm in gay couples raising children. no real evidence to suggest otherwise.

huh??:conf:

He is entitled to his own opinion, regardless of how outdated it is. His opinion is coloured by his reading of a very old book which has shaped perceptions for a few thousand years.

All he said was he wouldnt perform a ceremony for same sex, he didnt condemn or criticise, just that in his view his inderstanding of scriptures meant he couldnt prtgotm the ceremony.

A lot of religious people are like that, if thats what they believe fine, let them, you wont change their mind saying they are homophobes.

[QUOTE=Shasown;3352350]He is entitled to his own opinion, regardless of how outdated it is. His opinion is coloured by his reading of a very old book which has shaped perceptions for a few thousand years.

All he said was he wouldnt perform a ceremony for same sex, he didnt condemn or criticise, just that in his view his inderstanding of scriptures meant he couldnt prtgotm the ceremony.

A lot of religious people are like that, if thats what they believe fine, let them, you wont change their mind saying they are homophobes.[/QUOTE


But when Josie asked him then to explain why if god loved everyone, and he didn;t object to gays, what was wrong with marrying them, he refused to answer. Which is what annoyed me, very old fashioned religious view, accept what I say and don;t question me. Thats how people understand differing views, by questioning and discussing the issue, not avoiding it.

Ah but thats not the way some religious adherents defend their beliefs, this is where society and reigion tend to divide, religion moves slower than general society, its only recently women were allowed back into some denominations as priests etc, where there is precedent in the New Testament for them not only being priests but also bishops etc.

Still got to give him credit for partially dealing with her questions, its a lot more than most do.

Religion has to be dragged, in many cases into accepting modern social views, in some cases there are religions still stuck in the middle ages if not earlier.

Ironically, it's usually religious mugs who try to defend their stance on anti-homosexuality that tend to scrub certain bits out of the bible.

Anybody can pick and choose what they want and what they will from the bible, it's a book of many contradictions.