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Seeing each other 23-06-2010 10:58 AM

Is being Gay the new rebeliious Punk Rock and Roll?
 
I cannot help for the life of me ask if being Gay (when one is young) is the new rebellious Punk Rock and Roll. My Niece goes to college and is being put under pressure to believe she is "Gay", and it is NOW about finding who "ain't" Gay. It just seems to be the be the new "Trend" for very spoilt children to go down.

I say all that because SHABBY looks like she just being a spoilt brat and is all about outsmarting people and doing things to wind people up the wrong way. If someone sees this girl in 10-15 years and finds her living in a massive country house with her BANKER BONUS husband and 3 children talking about her rebellious "experimental days" do not be surprised.

How on earth someone can be in a house for a matter of days and cry on national TV for a straight girl is beyond me and drives me mad, then talks about her feelings that have to just be put down as insane, spoilt and uncontrollable at the end of the day. Shabby is nothing but a spoilt brat of and actress doing whatever the hell she pleases, and I have got her number.

Tattooed-Biker 23-06-2010 11:12 AM

i dont get it myself, steve is the only bloke keeping it real...unless at home jj,ben,nathan,mario and dave all wear nail varnish and lay on other mens laps?
wtf is it with BB that brings men to do that?

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 11:13 AM

David Bowie was gay back then 70's so nothing new under the sun.

unusualpet 23-06-2010 11:55 AM

well being Bi was the new rock n roll but that was a few years ago now - maybe they're doing a revival :p lol

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 23-06-2010 11:57 AM

im gay because i like mens willys no other reason

GiRTh 23-06-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeing each other (Post 3390316)
I cannot help for the life of me ask if being Gay (when one is young) is the new rebellious Punk Rock and Roll. My Niece goes to college and is being put under pressure to believe she is "Gay", and it is NOW about finding who "ain't" Gay. It just seems to be the be the new "Trend" for very spoilt children to go down.

I say all that because SHABBY looks like she just being a spoilt brat and is all about outsmarting people and doing things to wind people up the wrong way. If someone sees this girl in 10-15 years and finds her living in a massive country house with her BANKER BONUS husband and 3 children talking about her rebellious "experimental days" do not be surprised.

How on earth someone can be in a house for a matter of days and cry on national TV for a straight girl is beyond me and drives me mad, then talks about her feelings that have to just be put down as insane, spoilt and uncontrollable at the end of the day. Shabby is nothing but a spoilt brat of and actress doing whatever the hell she pleases, and I have got her number.

The OP makes a few great points. The bit in bold is pretty much spot on. Shabby knows Caoimhe isnt gay, to cry when she doesnt respond to her advances is frankly absurd.

Of course we all know that being gay is definitely not a trend but people like Shabby don't do the gay community any good.

charmingmissc 23-06-2010 12:10 PM

govan thinks so,
he said he was bi, before he went in there, then admitted he is not.
go figure.
immature, deluded, misguided..?

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonsays (Post 3390439)
im gay because i like mens willys no other reason

I am hetero because i can insert my Willy to somewhere else than "Exit Only" hole.

billy123 23-06-2010 12:12 PM

its pretty pathetic and most of these brats will grow out of it when they get older as pointed out it seems to be standard behaviour now for attention seekers to stomp about telling the world im gay deal with it just to be confrontational any real gays dont feel the need to tell everybody every 5 mins i bet they get pissed off with these type of people.
theres a few that post on this board that are like that :sleep::sleep:

InOne 23-06-2010 12:21 PM

I get what you mean. Shabby from her middle class background probably thinks being a Lesbian is something 'controversial'. And she is one of those who always like to let us know she is a Lesbian. Her whole dodgy love thing for the Irish girl is just stupid attention seeking crap.
Why does she keep laughing Shabby? Cos she knows the whole thing is ridiculous and you're making yourself look like an idiot!!!!

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 12:23 PM

She did never get nice, handsome boyfriend. Now she is angry and calls herself as a "lesbian".

lol 23-06-2010 12:30 PM

Govan lied about being Bi, just so he could get in the show.

BB_Eye 23-06-2010 12:45 PM

OP, you talk as if you have never seen a lesbian before so I can understand if you have trouble looking at this objectively. There are working class lesbians, posh lesbians, lipstick lesbians, bulldykes, lesbians of all shapes and sizes. BB is a show of extreme characters, so just like you are more likely to get a gay guy like Marco or Kemal than Mario or Dan and just like you are more likely to see a black girl like Alexandra or Sylvia than Melanie or Alison, BB are likely to pick more contentious characters that fall under the 'lesbian' rubric.

Being as emotionally immature as she is, it's no surprise Shabby has become infatuated in such a short space of time. And I agree there is no doubt that she is exaggerating her infatuation to gain attention.

MrWong 23-06-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeing each other (Post 3390316)
I cannot help for the life of me ask if being Gay (when one is young) is the new rebellious Punk Rock and Roll. My Niece goes to college and is being put under pressure to believe she is "Gay", and it is NOW about finding who "ain't" Gay. It just seems to be the be the new "Trend" for very spoilt children to go down.
I say all that because SHABBY looks like she just being a spoilt brat and is all about outsmarting people and doing things to wind people up the wrong way. If someone sees this girl in 10-15 years and finds her living in a massive country house with her BANKER BONUS husband and 3 children talking about her rebellious "experimental days" do not be surprised.

How on earth someone can be in a house for a matter of days and cry on national TV for a straight girl is beyond me and drives me mad, then talks about her feelings that have to just be put down as insane, spoilt and uncontrollable at the end of the day. Shabby is nothing but a spoilt brat of and actress doing whatever the hell she pleases, and I have got her number.

:hugesmile:

So you think being gay is just a trend for her most probably because she's spoilt..

... and think it's wrong for her to cry over a straight girl.

She's gay, being spoilt (pure speculation by you) has F all to do with it.
Why can't you accept that she's gay? It's not a 'trend'.
Your niece exploring her sexuality won't make her gay, either she is or she isn't. Shabby Ranks is 24, i'm sure she knows exactly who she is by now.

Gay lads/lasses fall for straight people alot, it happens. You can't help who you are attracted to, it's how you deal with it that matters.

They get upset too when it's unrequited love. Ya know, just like straight people do when they like some and they don't like them back?? Then they might have a lil cry about it... big deal. It's the same for straight people isn't it?

Most of the hm's have gotten emotional, they've spoken about their feelings too, shocker!! :shocked:

Or is it only Shabby Ranks that's not allowed to?

Try dialing that number, i think you'll find it's the wrong one.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390617)
:hugesmile:

So you think being gay is just a trend for her most probably because she's spoilt..

... and think it's wrong for her to cry over a straight girl.

She's gay, being spoilt (pure speculation by you) has F all to do with it.
Why can't you accept that she's gay? It's not a 'trend'.
Your niece exploring her sexuality won't make her gay, either she is or she isn't. Shabby Ranks is 24, i'm sure she knows exactly who she is by now.

Gay lads/lasses fall for straight people alot, it happens. You can't help who you are attracted to, it's how you deal with it that matters.

They get upset too when it's unrequited love. Ya know, just like straight people do when they like some and they don't like them back?? Then they might have a lil cry about it... big deal. It's the same for straight people isn't it?

Most of the hm's have gotten emotional, they've spoken about their feelings too, shocker!! :shocked:

Or is it only Shabby Ranks that's not allowed to?

Try dialing that number, i think you'll find it's the wrong one.

:sleep: MrWrong....

anothergooner 23-06-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3390541)
OP, you talk as if you have never seen a lesbian before so I can understand if you have trouble looking at this objectively. There are working class lesbians, posh lesbians, lipstick lesbians, bulldykes, lesbians of all shapes and sizes. BB is a show of extreme characters, so just like you are more likely to get a gay guy like Marco or Kemal than Mario or Dan and just like you are more likely to see a black girl like Alexandra or Sylvia than Melanie or Alison, BB are likely to pick more contentious characters that fall under the 'lesbian' rubric.

Being as emotionally immature as she is, it's no surprise Shabby has become infatuated in such a short space of time. And I agree there is no doubt that she is exaggerating her infatuation to gain attention.

It justs show how immature and shallow she is.Think I remember feeling and perhaps acting that way when I was about 14.when she told Caoimhe that she really liked her she said she was embarrassed.....ffs just grow up you stupid liitle girl.reminds me of "granddaughters" ramblings on fb and she is 13.I do believe if it had been a anyone having some kind of feelings they would of handled it better .and as for dancing on the back of sofas when music played into the house....yes look at me damm it.keep her in for a while longer just so she feels complacent then boot her out the back door wih no crowds ,media or tabloid

MrWong 23-06-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MojoNixon (Post 3390622)
:sleep: MrWrong....


Great reply.
I use more brain cells when i strain for a sh!t.

Dunno why you bother. :hugesmile:

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390626)
Great reply.
I use more brain cells when i strain for a ****

Dunno why you bother. :hugesmile:

Really MrWang? :sleep:

GiRTh 23-06-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390617)
:hugesmile:

So you think being gay is just a trend for her most probably because she's spoilt..

... and think it's wrong for her to cry over a straight girl.

She's gay, being spoilt (pure speculation by you) has F all to do with it.
Why can't you accept that she's gay? It's not a 'trend'.
Your niece exploring her sexuality won't make her gay, either she is or she isn't. Shabby Ranks is 24, i'm sure she knows exactly who she is by now.

Gay lads/lasses fall for straight people alot, it happens. You can't help who you are attracted to, it's how you deal with it that matters.

They get upset too when it's unrequited love. Ya know, just like straight people do when they like some and they don't like them back?? Then they might have a lil cry about it... big deal. It's the same for straight people isn't it?


Most of the hm's have gotten emotional, they've spoken about their feelings too, shocker!! :shocked:

Or is it only Shabby Ranks that's not allowed to?

Try dialing that number, i think you'll find it's the wrong one.

I agree with much of what you say but not the bits in bold.

No doubt all you say in bold is true from your own personal experiences but from my experiences as a straight man, if I was attracted to a woman and she told me she was gay I’d still be attracted to her, but my pursuit of her would end pretty abruptly. As she is clearly unattainable. I’d probably get upset but I know I’d never cry about it.

Shabby’s contradictory nature is one of the things I find quite interesting about her, but I still think it is frankly absurd to cry when someone so out of her league – in so many ways - rejects her advances. Shabby likes to tell others to grow up but in this instance she’s showing incredible emotional immaturity.

MrWong 23-06-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390659)
I agree with much of what you say but not the bits in bold.

No doubt all you say in bold is true from your own personal experiences but from my experiences as a straight man, if I was attracted to a woman and she told me she was gay I’d still be attracted to her, but my pursuit of her would end pretty abruptly. As she is clearly unattainable. I’d probably get upset but I know I’d never cry about it.

Shabby’s contradictory nature is one of the things I find quite interesting about her, but I still think it is frankly absurd to cry when someone so out of her league – in so many ways - rejects her advances. Shabby likes to tell others to grow up but in this instance she’s showing incredible emotional immaturity.

Locked in a house 24/7 would it end as abruptly? You can stay away from her, Shabby can't. Also being in the house might make the situation worse, Michelle (bb5) wouldn't take no for an answer, Craig (bb6) was a bit of a nightmare. I guess it all depends how they behave outside of the house, which is something we won't ever know.

I don't think Caoimhe is clearly unattainable. She's flirted with Shabby Ranks, she's also told her that if she didn't have a boyfriend she'd get it on with her. She's giving Shabby hope in a way.

I don't think Caoimhe's out of her league either.

eye sea 23-06-2010 02:12 PM

Coming out is soooooo 1980s...:sleep:C

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390723)
Locked in a house 24/7 would it end as abruptly? You can stay away from her, Shabby can't. Also being in the house might make the situation worse, Michelle (bb5) wouldn't take no for an answer, Craig (bb6) was a bit of a nightmare. I guess it all depends how they behave outside of the house, which is something we won't ever know.

I don't think Caoimhe is clearly unattainable. She's flirted with Shabby Ranks, she's also told her that if she didn't have a boyfriend she'd get it on with her. She's giving Shabby hope in a way.

I don't think Caoimhe's out of her league either.

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GiRTh 23-06-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390723)
Locked in a house 24/7 would it end as abruptly? You can stay away from her, Shabby can't. Also being in the house might make the situation worse, Michelle (bb5) wouldn't take no for an answer, Craig (bb6) was a bit of a nightmare. I guess it all depends how they behave outside of the house, which is something we won't ever know. .

My pursuit would end immediately because I’d have Craig and Anthony at the back of my mind and making such a fool of myself would definitely be on my mind.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390723)
I don't think Caoimhe is clearly unattainable. She's flirted with Shabby Ranks, she's also told her that if she didn't have a boyfriend she'd get it on with her. She's giving Shabby hope in a way. .

I say unattainable because she’s straight and has a BF


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390723)
I don't think Caoimhe's out of her league either.

Again, out of her league because she has a BF.

I think Shabby’s cant handle any kind of set back in life and her tears and tantrums back that up. I find her quite interesting but not at all likeable.

MrWong 23-06-2010 02:20 PM

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Shaun 23-06-2010 02:25 PM

I can totally relate to Shabby - falling in love with a straight member of the same sex is a real bummer of a situation. But she has to accept that nothing can and will ever happen.

Unfortunately there seems to be some uncertainty with Caoimhe's sexuality - but the fact she's taken should be an immediate no-go area.

MrWong 23-06-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390739)
My pursuit would end immediately because I’d have Craig and Anthony at the back of my mind and making such a fool of myself would definitely be on my mind.


I say unattainable because she’s straight and has a BF


Again, out of her league because she has a BF.

I think Shabby’s cant handle any kind of set back in life and her tears and tantrums back that up. I find her quite interesting but not at all likeable.

How do you know you wouldn't make a fool of yourself? You've never been locked up 24/7 with someone you really like. Also we don't know how Michelle and Craig behave in real life, maybe it was being in the house that made them act the way they did or maybe they are the way they looked on the TV. We'll never know.

Caoimhe said she's bi. Whether she has a b/f or not. She also said if she didn't have a b/f she'd go for it with Shabby.

GiRTh 23-06-2010 02:33 PM

How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.

WOMBAI 23-06-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeing each other (Post 3390316)
I cannot help for the life of me ask if being Gay (when one is young) is the new rebellious Punk Rock and Roll. My Niece goes to college and is being put under pressure to believe she is "Gay", and it is NOW about finding who "ain't" Gay. It just seems to be the be the new "Trend" for very spoilt children to go down.

I say all that because SHABBY looks like she just being a spoilt brat and is all about outsmarting people and doing things to wind people up the wrong way. If someone sees this girl in 10-15 years and finds her living in a massive country house with her BANKER BONUS husband and 3 children talking about her rebellious "experimental days" do not be surprised.
How on earth someone can be in a house for a matter of days and cry on national TV for a straight girl is beyond me and drives me mad, then talks about her feelings that have to just be put down as insane, spoilt and uncontrollable at the end of the day. Shabby is nothing but a spoilt brat of and actress doing whatever the hell she pleases, and I have got her number.

Somehow I think that will apply to most of the so-called gay and bisexual teens on here! I do think a lot of it is about rebellion and experimentation.

MrWong 23-06-2010 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=GiRTh;3390771]How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.[/QUOTE]

But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=MrWong;3390822]
Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390771)
How do I know I wouldnt make a fool of myself? Becasue unlike the Shabby's, Craigs and Michelle's of this world I understand the meaning of the words self-control and self-respect. Shabby is one big mess of emotions and tantrums. And she has the nerve to tell Ben to grow up. Interesting but certainly not likeable.

Even if Caomhe has said all those things the BF kind of trumps everything.[/QUOTE]

But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

You gonna write a book?

MrWong 23-06-2010 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=MojoNixon;3390834]
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)

You gonna write a book?

Ever read one?

Probably not if a few paragraphs offend you.

Try adding to the debate. It's a forum, shocking i know :shocked:

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390849)

Ever read one?

Probably not if a few paragraphs offend you.

Try adding to the debate. It's a forum, shocking i know :shocked:

Stories from the Thousand and One Nights?

GiRTh 23-06-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
But you don't know how they act in the real world do you? Michelle and Craig could have been like that because of the enviroment they are in, emotions are heightened in that place. They may behave 'normally' outside of the house. You just don't know.

Time has told us that both of those were pretty much being themselves in the house, especially Craig. Michelle got a bit of a bad edit but again she was being hersefl.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
They might have self control, self respect outside of the house but being in the house totally messes up your head. Housemates say that all the time. They can act out of character. So as you've never been in that situation you'll never know in what way you'd act. You might act out of character too.

I think thats bollox and HMs's use it as an excuse for their poor behaviour. Most of the time I've seen HM's go to that one when prompted by an interviewer. Its very rare for a HM to use that excuse- and it is an excuse - by themselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390822)
Also, i never said her b/f trumps everything. I said Caoimhe's giving out mixed signals, saying Shabby would be in with a shot if she was single, for example. That'll not help in ending things abruptly.

As for mixed signals. They seem to have stopped now Shabby's declared her intentions. LEts see if Shabby reads the new signals.

MrWong 23-06-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3390859)
Time has told us that both of those were pretty much being themselves in the house, especially Craig. Michelle got a bit of a bad edit but again she was being hersefl.


I think thats bollox and HMs's use it as an excuse for their poor behaviour. Most of the time I've seen HM's go to that one when prompted by an interviewer. Its very rare for a HM to use that excuse- and it is an excuse - by themselves.

As for mixed signals. They seem to have stopped now Shabby's declared her intentions. LEts see if Shabby reads the new signals.

Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390893)
Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

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GiRTh 23-06-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 3390893)
Sorry but time can't tell you anything. Knowing them in person could though.
Then you'd know if they were behaving out of character or not.

It's not bollocks, didn't you ever watch the psychology show they used to have BB's Big Brain or whatever. Emotions in the house are magnified resulting in you acting out of character.

Yes as we arn't Mystic Meg, lets see...

I can only go by how they come across on TV. Of course I've never met them and I wasn’t under the impression that I said I had met them, or do know them, but surely you can understand we can get an impression of how someone is based on their TV appearances? And given their TV appearance plus how they behaved on the show I can see a number of consistencies.

It is bollox. Without question, in my mind. Its amazing that the quieter characters never say that. It’s only the idiots who've made fool's on themselves. And they're usually prompted to say so by some interviewer.

brian3 23-06-2010 03:26 PM

Brett Anderson used to do this back in the early 90s. Even then it seemed tirsome. Now it's boring and annoying.

DOG 23-06-2010 03:42 PM

Gay is something your born as! Choice or trends have nothing to do with it. Some members of the gay community (and maybe some that aren't) may be in denial about it, but it is what it is.

MojoNixon 23-06-2010 03:46 PM

Come out from toilets you heteros! Be Proud To Be Hetero!

DOG 23-06-2010 03:50 PM

I'm hetero. :xyxwave:


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