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Freddie Fisher 23-06-2010 03:24 PM

Ben gives people space
 
I'm fascinated by Ben's manner with people, and am enjoying Mario and Ben's dynamic more than any other relationship in the house. While Ben is very tactile, he also gives people a lot of psychological space in conversations. That is a very personable and warming combination, and quite rare for somebody with such a sharp and discerning mind. He reminds me of Siavash in this respect.

People who interact like Ben tend to make certain kinds of friendships. As you're giving people space to be themselves, you can develop a very wide variety of friendships with different people. And feeling like somebody is interested in you for your own sake and vibe is very warming, so friends will tend to feel particularly 'close' to you. You may end up with a lot of friends, even without being a 'group person'. Your friendships will be a collection of 1-1 connections, which is a great way to be sociable and individual at the same time.

And you can still 'hold court' and be individually entertaining too sometimes; Siavash certainly does. Being able to make friends this way is just another arrow in your quiver. It can even be easier to be creative and entertaining when you're bouncing off somebody else.

While in the house, I'd use my analyses of my fellow housemates so inspire me as to how to behave and develop as a person. This is a game that can evidently be played at home too. I'd like to be more like Ben in this respect, and he's inspired me to experiment with a similar approach. I'm 'dominating the conversation' a bit less these days, and have been getting some very positive responses so far.

Are there any of this year's housemates that *you* would like to become more (or less) similar to? If so, do comment :-)

JTM45 23-06-2010 03:28 PM

Hi Freddie!
You were a legend last year and we were gutted when you were evicted prematurely!
Rock on dude! :)

I like Ben too. I find him a lot more interesting than Shabby and her little gang.

Twilight 23-06-2010 03:30 PM

Heyy is that really him :3

stoney 23-06-2010 03:31 PM

pity there was no tasks to save last year cos the final 5 would have looked a big bitty different

but glad your a Ben fan

red 23-06-2010 03:31 PM

omg is this the REAL freddie:wavey:

JTM45 23-06-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red (Post 3391001)
omg is this the REAL freddie:wavey:

Pretty sure it is!
Freddie was one of the best housemates in the history of BB in my opinion :)

red 23-06-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 3391011)
Pretty sure it is!
Freddie was one of the best housemates in the history of BB in my opinion :)

yes i agree! the true winner of BB10 along with marcus
FREDDIE YOU'RE A LEGEND PLS COMMENT SUNNYJIM! :)

Twilight 23-06-2010 03:38 PM

OMG its him!

JTM45 23-06-2010 03:43 PM

He said that he wasn't impressed by what he'd seen of Shabby so far on BBLB the other day so it appears he's a good judge of character as well as a legendary housemate! :)

"I don't think so Sonny-Jim":joker:

Stacey. 23-06-2010 03:43 PM

I love you Freddie! You legend. <3

red 23-06-2010 03:45 PM

Scabby is the new Lisa with her 'gang'

Lucy. 23-06-2010 03:45 PM

Is this Freddie? I don't think so sonny-jim!

Chels 23-06-2010 03:46 PM

Is it really him though?

Stacey. 23-06-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red (Post 3391072)
Scabby is the new Lisa with her 'gang'

Shabby's nothing like Lisa.

Lisa was a vile bitch.

lol 23-06-2010 03:48 PM

I don't see why everyone hates Ben.

He's polite and understanding, yes he may try to manipulate people, but most of the time he just wants a get-together with the lads.

And Hi Freddie. :D (If it's the real you)

starry 23-06-2010 03:51 PM

I think Ben suffocates people, he wants to force his opinions (about nominations mainly) on people. I don't think he is much of a listener. He is quite conceited.

Sunshine is more of a listener (and caring) and I have enjoyed her long conversation with Govan a while back, and the conversation with John today as well. Of course Endemol are ignoring her and want to give some biased view of her. But those who watch live feed see what she contributes. Also the way they treated her just because she is articulate, different (such as being a Vegan) and has an unusual name. The first week was worst but even now they still keep giving her jibes, and she seems very strong in being able to ignore some of the crap or give something back to them. Not the boring stereotypical under the radar HM that Endemol would promote. But those who look beyond the HLs know the reality.

King Gizzard 23-06-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey.x (Post 3391082)
Shabby's nothing like Lisa.

Lisa was a vile bitch.

So is Shabby

DrunkerThanMoses 23-06-2010 03:55 PM

Ben needs people around him, I think he dislikes being alone really.

HBB1508 23-06-2010 03:55 PM

:xyxwave: Freddie

I like Ben but he really needs to chill out relax and enjoy the experience and try and get past the Shabby rows. I thought he made a great Jerry Springer too :spin:

lol 23-06-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starry (Post 3391117)
I think Ben suffocates people, he wants to force his opinions (about nominations mainly) on people. I don't think he is much of a listener. He is quite conceited.

Sunshine is more of a listener (and caring) and I have enjoyed her long conversation with Govan a while back, and the conversation with John today as well. Of course Endemol are ignoring her and want to give some biased view of her. But those who watch live feed see what she contributes. Also the way they treated her just because she is articulate, different (such as being a Vegan) and has an unusual name. The first week was worst but even now they still keep giving her jibes, and she seems very strong in being able to ignore some of the crap or give something back to them. Not the boring stereotypical under the radar HM that Endemol would promote. But those who look beyond the HLs know the reality.


Lol why do you talk about Sunshine in every post? :P

Chels 23-06-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lol (Post 3391149)
Lol why do you talk about Sunshine in every post? :P

I thought the same :laugh:

BB2010 Avery 23-06-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey.x (Post 3391082)
Shabby's nothing like Lisa.

Lisa was a vile bitch.

So is shabby

red 23-06-2010 03:58 PM

C'mon sonny-jim say somethin ;)

King Gizzard 23-06-2010 03:58 PM

I really do think thats him

What fake person would advertise his personal site?

starry 23-06-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lol (Post 3391149)
Lol why do you talk about Sunshine in every post? :P

I don't actually.

But the opening post asked about other HMs as well as Ben anyway.

zotler. 23-06-2010 04:00 PM

lulz @ the speculation.

Lucy. 23-06-2010 04:01 PM

It's not exactly a 'personal' site. Anyone could link it.

JustSkipIt 23-06-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lol (Post 3391098)
I don't see why everyone hates Ben.

He's polite and understanding, yes he may try to manipulate people, but most of the time he just wants a get-together with the lads....

Where does boundary lie between having a moan to your mates about someone and trying to manipulate them? I don't think Ben is necessary manipulative – I think he enjoys a bit of a moan sometimes, but then who doesn't? If he IS trying to be manipulative, he ought to give it up because he not very good at it

Oh - and what gave you the idea everyone hates him? he's getting on pretty well with most of the house

Jessica. 23-06-2010 04:01 PM

I think Ben is a great character in the house, he is very witty and intelligent. :)

Claymores 23-06-2010 04:01 PM

How's your new single doin' Halfass? Still performing out the back of an estate car like on BBLB?!

billy123 23-06-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3391175)
How's your new single doin' Halfass? Still performing out the back of an estate car like on BBLB?!

why the need to be rude? your just bitter because england made the last 16 hahahaha :hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/945...ntzrie2dg3.jpg

starry 23-06-2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chels (Post 3391154)
I thought the same :laugh:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142759
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142760
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142777
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142750
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142715
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=142739


Just a few of the recent threads I have posted in not mentioning Sunshine, there are very many others both recent and older.

Saph 23-06-2010 04:08 PM

dunno if your real or not, but you kinda annoyed me alot ;)

starry 23-06-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustSkipIt (Post 3391171)
Oh - and what gave you the idea everyone hates him? he's getting on pretty well with most of the house

Not really, most of the house are suspicious of him. The only one who agrees with all he says is Mario, and that's because he is infatuated.

Claymores 23-06-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 3391202)
why the need to be rude?

LOL naw - it's hardly an achievement to scrape throu the worst group in the Cup

And hatred coz I still think Halfass is a total waste of air

JustSkipIt 23-06-2010 04:14 PM

No disrespect, but you DO talk about Sunshine a lot :laugh:

Besides, quoting just six out of over 500 posts isn't exactly strengthening you point, if you get my drift.

Kazanne 23-06-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddie Fisher (Post 3390962)
I'm fascinated by Ben's manner with people, and am enjoying Mario and Ben's dynamic more than any other relationship in the house. While Ben is very tactile, he also gives people a lot of psychological space in conversations. That is a very personable and warming combination, and quite rare for somebody with such a sharp and discerning mind. He reminds me of Siavash and my friend Kate Noble in this respect.

People who interact like Ben tend to make certain kinds of friendships. As you're giving people space to be themselves, you can develop a very wide variety of friendships with different people. And feeling like somebody is interested in you for your own sake and vibe is very warming, so friends will tend to feel particularly 'close' to you. You may end up with a lot of friends, even without being a 'group person'. Your friendships will be a collection of 1-1 connections, which is a great way to be sociable and individual at the same time.

And you can still 'hold court' and be individually entertaining too sometimes; Siavash certainly does. Being able to make friends this way is just another arrow in your quiver. It can even be easier to be creative and entertaining when you're bouncing off somebody else.

While in the house, I'd use my analyses of my fellow housemates so inspire me as to how to behave and develop as a person. This is a game that can evidently be played at home too. I'd like to be more like Ben in this respect, and he's inspired me to experiment with a similar approach. I'm 'dominating the conversation' a bit less these days, and have been getting some very positive responses so far.

Are there any of this year's housemates that *you* would like to become more (or less) similar to? If so, do comment :-)

Ben is a great housemate and I imagine a nice person ,I hate the way people are condeming him sometimes just because of his accent,they are so shallow,I think Ben is going through the same kind of thing that you did last year,I have mentioned it a few times,people do not seem to like anyone who has done well or speaks properly,I wonder why that is?I would be happy to be as patient and calm as Ben,he is lovely and is my winner as you were last year,hey I live not far from you,I went to The Grove at Market Drayton for a few years.anyway bliddy good choice of housemate.:xyxwave:

JustSkipIt 23-06-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starry (Post 3391212)
Not really, most of the house are suspicious of him. The only one who agrees with all he says is Mario, and that's because he is infatuated.


They're suspicious of each other - and disagreeing with someone is a far cry from hating them

starry 23-06-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustSkipIt (Post 3391228)
No disrespect, but you DO talk about Sunshine a lot :laugh:

Besides, quoting just six out of over 500 posts isn't exactly strengthening you point, if you get my drift.

lol, do you really think I'm about to go through 100s of threads (quite a few done in BB10, or the last Celeb edition) and show that the name Sunshine hasn't been mentioned just to please you? I have other things to do, but perhaps you would like to do it?

I just think Sunshine is the best HM of this series so far by a long way.

crocs 23-06-2010 04:21 PM

I've been fascinated by Ben as well since the moment he opened his mouth. I don't believe that he and the things he says are malicious, but I can understand they can be perceived as being such. I think he is a genuine guy who honestly tries to understand people in a deeper level. Perhaps in other people's eyes he analyses too much, but I personally don't think so. I also analyse people and myself a lot, and a lot of this analysis is just statements with no actual value, but the listener often puts the value and the emotion into these statements. This then causes misunderstandings.

I'm glad that there are people like Ben in the house.


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