i think the public are hypocrites.
 

howcome nathan is hated for his swearing but john james gets away with swearing just as much if not more sometimes.

so whats the difference between nathan and john james?

Simply because the teenies think ratboy is fit!!!!!

some people you like, some you don't.


:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Because JJ is pretty and vulnerable. Apparently.

He was bullied by Mean girls as he's pointed out several times....just in case the viewers didnt catch it the first time!

Nathan is nasty and a liar. He screamed " I never said you smashed up Steve's char!!" 3 meters from her. He lied and physically threatened her by approaching her WHILE ranting. JJ didn't threaten Rach and most of his rant was about how cheap and shallow it was to openly look forward to "deals" after BB.

JJ does his more sneakily,nathan is just gobby

They think JJ is fit so nobody is allowed to argue with him, he can say what he wants apparently even when he is trying to undermine people and he is even allowed to physically hurt people too.

but rachel is allowed to do what she wants he then cant go and pick on her like that.

"more sneakily" ... like at the dining table in front of everyone? Nath went for the throat and lied. Steve wasn't "gutted" and Nathan DID say "you smashed up his Steve's things" but in the argument with Shabbs he said " no I never!". JJ doesn't lie in those arguments while Nath looks like a wriggling worm who will use every trick in the book including physical intimidating a woman.
Nath didn't look good after that... JJ never went those lengths.

the thing is john james is brutal not honest.

Because the public are stupid!!

But dont worry....watch them turn on the 'awful little turd' JJ....when St. Josie thinks that he's surplus to her gameplan and denounces him!!....Not be long now!....She's already been laying the groundwork for the u-turn!! :dance:

Nathan had ONE short rant. JJ has been an angry ranting, swearing bitch since first week.

You JJ fans are laughable.

Most fans of jj are women, he's very good looking. Nathan isn't. Simple as that really.

but thats stupid because anything he does then his female following is going to defend him.

he was out of line sure, and if he hates a woman who openly says she's looking for a "nutZ" deal then he ought to have bit his lip. But to say this is in the same league as Nath ranting WHILE walking directly towards Shabbs is wrong. The OP's point was "oh boo hoo why can JJ get away with it but Nathan can't".

your missing out half the conversation rachel,corin and ife i think it was were joking about magazine deals and then he singled rachel out and had a right go at her.

Nathan faced off a woman and lied all through it. He yelled at her while quickly walking toward her. SHE felt physically threatened.
JJ's rants with Ben or Josie don't come from the same nasty place that Nathan has had hidden.

Totally agree Zippy.

"he had a right go at her".
?? I already said he was out of line. Are you doing a sunshine and going for 25 apologies?
did her physically threaten her?... how many times did he call her a name? 0 - 0.
Would Rach want make up with JJ ... yes
Would shabbs and Nathan want to make up Nath - no.

Point your not getting is the violence ( physically threatening someone is violence) puts Nathan's handywork in another league.

Lolzzzzz

You make it sound ten times more dramatic than it was! :joker:

I dont think he even got a warning for it. And in BB these days they get warned for the slightest thing. JJ has been warned. Ha!

thats stupid shabby can look after herself for starters and nathan werent that agressive imo.

where as john james constantly was nasty to rachel and was more agressive than nathan.

lol @ "ha!" like someone who's never one anything in their lives and finally wins at the casino.
Shabbs said she was physically threatened. If she stayed in the house he would have got a warning.
JJ didn't get a warning for threatening SS nor did she feel threatened.

spin again.

but rachel he did.

I'm sure JJ got a warning,but can't be sure

Shabs is a proven dramaqueen with an axe to grind. Laughable you take her word seriously. She didnt look threatened at the time. More like a child who had been put in her place and sulking about it.

Ha! :xyxwave:

ignoring her wasn't "being nasty". He didn't focus and pick on her AND ignore her at the same time. As for Nathan .... he tried to use Steve to attack the rest. "Steve is shattered". he said...BS he was. Shabbs was right in that argument but dropped it because he was ranting and approaching her. That's how Nathan wins most of his arguments with women I guess.

I've been reading and posting on the BB boards since the first BB started -mostly on the main C4 BB site and I've noticed that men get away with a -hell of a lot more- than the women ever do when they're on the show, it starts even before they get in the house in the beginning! because women always manage to turn anything and everything a woman does or doesn't do and everything a man does or doesn't do into a positive.

Women are rediculously soft on men and unfairly hard on themselves and each other.:conf:

But Nathan didn't put her in her place by winning an argument but by ranting and facing her off. SHe was right and he lied the best he could until he had nothing in the armory except physical intimidation.
When asked " did you say we smashed up Steve's chair" he said " I never said that!!" .... BS
He said " Steve was really shattered!!!". Nah he wasn't.
Nathan made a d*ck move and Shabbs was about to call him on it. Josie thought the same. That's exactly why Josie brought it up with Shabbs in earshot.

but everytime rachel did something like a look thats she has probably pulled for most of her life john james would then pounce on her.

but because you fancy him he will never do anything wrong.

i totally agree.

Truth is, Nathans patience with her and her theatrics and tantrums had run out. He had been biting his tongue for a long time. In that moment she triggered him off and he finally let rip. Simple as that. It was just one short rant. Nothing more.

Quit trying to build a big three part ITV drama out of it.

"but because you fancy him he will never do anything wrong. "
don't get personal go for cheap shots bro ... that amateur.

Hate JJ, I have actually voted for both to go so for me it's a win win situation. Its obvious he sooooo thinks he will stay. I think he is trying to eliminate competition by turning on Corin and having Josie hate her as well.

I think Nathan is just more nobby and aggressive, John James has a vulnerablity about him and not intimidating at all

but i bet im right.

lol, if you look on the CH4 site theirs comments such as "oh no don't evict JJ I want him and Josie to get it on!" How pathetic.
It will not happen!

i like josie but the relationship is fake.

It's 90 part channel 4 drama. Welcome to TIBB hehe.
My point was he didn't "put her in her place" by winning an argument but by physically threatening her. If he hadn't she'd have owned him. Yeah she escalated it by telling him "p*ss off" or something but he was making up lies as he went and could only do that to keep his head above water. Finally he got physically aggressive and as Nathan has learnt... this usually works with physically smaller people. Nice one Nath. :P

having to get trolly and personal once you run out of an argument, in a thread YOU created!! ( epic) , means no your not right. lol

I know, everyone says it's legit but have you noticed since the beech ball incident over Josie being fave he is so sucking up to her!!
I am really hating him, I don't see why people are being good towards him because of his looks and the fact 2 people have left because of him makes his ego inflate even further. He so thinks he is in control and can get Corin evicted and it WORKING by the looks of things.