Is Dave breaking the law?
 

Inciting religious hatred in the house. What he's saying is hateful, that his god is the be all and end all, that he is supreme - religious supremacy.

Black supremacy is racist - racial hatred.

Dead right !!

:laugh3:

You drama queen - if anyone is inciting hatred - it is you my friend! :sleep:

Dave would say he is inciting love, not hatred1 ;)

I find any religious talk patronising and aggressive. I can't wait till he leaves.

Thats ironic. Why are you being hateful towards me?

But is he just expressing his views or is he forcing them onto other people?

However he is not addressing an unwilling audience. Rachel has chosen to involve herself in the convo. She could walk away.

Never thought anyone could incite love, especially Dave. That said, alot of people incite love when they're drunk on godcahol.

I doubt it, Dave only wants spread love and devotion

Dave is inciting me to turn the telly off.

You were being hypocritical! You are inciting hate for him and his beliefs! They are his opinions, applicable to his life, he isn't forcing his beliefs on anyone else! ffs there are people criticising him for not being prepared to talk to trouble-making Keeva about his views, whilst others criticise him for talking about them at all. He can't win! Why should he not talk about his views - they are a part of him! It sounds more like religious hatred to me!

He's too dull to incite anything except boredom.

Good question. Expressing, yes, and we should defend that, but he sees Rachel as someone close to biting his godrod. Rachel is great bait for brainwashers. Theres always an element of force.

I like Dave-thought the public would warm to him like.But from the reaction of the crowd it would appear he's about as popular as a venereal disease.

:thumbs:

Well thats true.

She seems to think he has to explain himself to her. Er, no.

Well he does because he brings the "Lord" into every conversation.

I honestly would not be able to talk to the man.

Is newspresenter breaking the law?
Inciting Dave hatred in Tibb. What he's saying is hateful, that his opinion is the be all and end all, that he is supreme - opinion supremacy.

Opinion supremacy is racist - racial hatred.

And yes he is being forceful because he KNOWS there are atheists in the house. All this "God loves you" sh!te does my head in.

This

Dave is a Utter Bible Freak Nutter.

Yes, im breaking the law, just show's what an ass the law is and who created it.

And no, im not breaking the law because this law is about interpretation and im not advocating hatred against Dave.

you seem to be the one trying to incite hatred.

can you give some examples of what you are referring to, or do we have to play a little guessing game.

He does ,but when Keeva told him this he denied it ,he rams his ludicrous views on everyone

dude my post was a joke.
I was hoping we'd all create a similar post using your cool rant as a guide. Forgot where I was. :(

'seem' is a word that could lock me up for 7 years. Terrible judicary we have.

I said already, Dave is saying his belief is the be-all and end-all, free speech and religious hatred.

Who decides what is free speech and what is 'religious hatred'?

Personally i'd prefer Dave to say whatever he likes, but that isn't the rules of the game. The rule is interpretation - the government can lock up anyone they don't like for 'incitement'.

yes they can, be would it be lawful or legal, i take it you understand the diffrence between lawful and legal?

Religious people are allowed to free speech and state their faith in public But they should NOT use their faith to justify hatred against another person such as saying the bible says gays are evil then gays should be killed or locked up as a result That would be inciting homophobic hatred directing at a homosexual person or in public in terms of hate speech and that is against the law

If someone uses abusive language and threatens someone because of their sexuality or color then that is also inciting hatred

As far as I know David has only said he thinks homosexuality is wrong in his personal view because of his faith he hasn`t said anything that incites hatred yet anyway

Would it matter if they get away with it, especially when you consider the amount of support they would have at their disposal.

If preeching the god thing isn't incitement, then surely preeching satanism (the opposite) is, yet satanism is a recognised religion that you can worship in the Monarch's armed forces.

What about non 'recognised' religions, can they only preech incitement simply because they're not 'recognised'?

I think Dave is just mental.... Years of drink & drug abuse has obviously caused serious & lasting damage... And if his loony mates on BBBM last night are anything to go on his whole "congregation" are obviously made up of mental druggies & alcoholics too... :sleep:

Does the bible say gays are evil? Why is it a bad thing to dislike homosexuals and homosexuality? Is hetrophobia bad? Is arachnophobia bad?

Define abusive language? Is all language free speech?

I'm not a Dave fan really, I don't agree with his regigious beliefs. However, the belief that seems to override everything else for him is that he thinks God wants him to love everyone. Strange that would incite so much hate.

Do you have no admiration for people who get off the drugs then? They have done it their way, and if adopting religion instead has worked for them - so be it! Would you rather they remained as junkies instead? Dave has been honest about his past - he is now entitled to believe in whatever he chooses!

No not all language is free speech I`m afraid some hate speech can be considered illegal but it depends on how it was said and the motive behind it and what was said

The bible talks about the city of sodom a place where the bible says men were lusting after each other and hence where the name sodmomy came from to descride anal or oral sex both between gay men and straight coulples etc

However The bible isn`t very detailed on the matter of homosexuality some people have just used that part about the city of sodmon to descride their discust of gay men

However all forms of lust are classed as a sin in christianity even men lusting after other women is too

So the bible isn`t actually saying God hates gays or that gays are evil but its how people have interpreited it over decades especially protestant christians like Dave

Not if they act like him & his mates no...

He has hardly just "adopted religion" though has he? He has invented his own pathetic "cult" where they stagger about as if still high as a kite or pissed...
They are offensive to true Christians...

It's other people who're constantly bringing it up, not him.

You should ask that from Jeremiah Wright, who is Barak Obamas pastor

Free speech is just that - speech

Religious hatred would be active, if he actually condems other religions. But he's not ... all religions believe their religion is the be all and end all - that they are superior in beliefs. So it's a redundant argument ... you got your wires crossed... And when in doubt, read about it before so your opinion is at least informed.

Opinions are like arse holes ... everyone has one regardless. :spin: