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Jamie888 13-07-2010 12:39 AM

live Feed : The monk has very serious issues....
 
The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

vesavius 13-07-2010 12:42 AM

he has a jug of Kool Aid in the kitchen.

paper-cut-exit 13-07-2010 12:43 AM

I think he's suffering from burnt-out junkie syndrome tbh.

starry 13-07-2010 01:13 AM

Does it actually hurt anyone in the house though?

supergirthuk 13-07-2010 01:15 AM

I think a few may just die of embarrassment so yeh.

spitfire 13-07-2010 01:18 AM

He was absolutely pathetic.

ElProximo 13-07-2010 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie888 (Post 3487068)
The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

I don't think he is in danger of a Waco style incident as he is unlikely to kill members of another cult to revenge fellow police officers,
but,
yes, he is heavily deluded into psychosomatic 'fleshly' experiences which he seems to believe are from God.

IF you wanted to go by some of the statistics out there it is much more likely the homosexual in the house will end up in a suicide and/or murder incident in their life.
Not that I suppose anyone in there will end up in any of those situations.

But yeah.. David's cult is not 'especially' infatuated with End Times and Apocalyptic stuff which is what can lead to that kind of trouble seen in Waco.
Not yet.
Given enough time you watch and they will but for whatever reason I don't see David going there.
I'd say he is the one who.. when the group does decide to go horribly 'grape kool-aid wrong' he will lead the group that splits away and is later interviewed on the news about what the other group did.

stonedape 13-07-2010 04:46 AM

for laugh


for cry




see? It could be worse. :thumbs:

ElProximo 13-07-2010 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3487583)
for laugh

for cry

see? It could be worse. :thumbs:

No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

stonedape 13-07-2010 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3487584)
No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

yeah, your tripe is so much more necessary/entertaining. It's 2 clips, suck it up. And Jesus Camp isn't anti-christian, evangelicals in America liked the film. It's revealing you say it's anti-christian. My point was that the Brits have it easy compared to Aussies and Americans, but I didn't know it needed s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g o-u-t.

ElProximo 13-07-2010 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedape (Post 3487585)
yeah, your tripe is so much more necessary/entertaining. It's 2 clips, suck it up. And Jesus Camp isn't anti-christian, evangelicals in America liked the film. It's revealing you say it's anti-christian. My point was that the Brits have it easy compared to Aussies and Americans, but I didn't know it needed s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g o-u-t.

I'm aware that 'Jesus Camp' was actually put together by concerned Christians who were, in effect, their own 'error-checking mechanism',
however,
people like you think it is useful antichristian propaganda and believe that is what your achieving. It does work too,
and,
you can actually see your misunderstanding (and consequent deceptive communication) when you say things like 'compared to Americans'.

In fact, 'Jesus Camp' type of Pentecostalism is a fringe in the USA and makes up a very small portion of the Christian body there,
so,
to put it in comparison here... I could confidently guesstimate that a comparable number of Brits (or more) attend 'Spirtualism Churches'.
However, credit due to the USA is that when a fringe of them does go to 'Jesus Camp' they respond with exposing it and criticizing it.

Brits like you don't get to s-p-e-l-l anything to anyone after they make a generalization based on just several children in several cringing moments in one Jesus Camp.
People like you post video clips of Theroux's 'most hated family' and actually believe that is what Americans are doing.

I can EASILY find you 10 manic street preachers (not the band) in just Manchester.
I could go take video clips like the ones you found in Liverpool this week with full on shaking, rolling and hysterical behavior.
You could find 20 Spiritualism Churches in London by tomorrow afternoon.

But anyways... I'd rather stay on topic discussing David the Housemate and what he is all about.
There are 23408234230 forum topics all over the internet doing the little 'rip on Christians' crap you can paste those types of vids on.
We only have a few about BB11 David.

BJ 13-07-2010 08:01 AM

The word charlitan springs to mind

big_bother 13-07-2010 08:02 AM

Why dont they ever show Dave in this state on the HL's ....

poejoe 13-07-2010 08:07 AM

:sleep:he's lost the plot

rusticgal 13-07-2010 08:13 AM

...the trouble is is that that is ALL dave is about.... he believes that this will win him BB.Tbh he hasnt much else to offer...whilst a decent man its his waccy religious ways that is defining his character.... the longer he stays the worse he will get... BEWARE!!

big_bother 13-07-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 3487747)
The longer he stays the worse he will get... BEWARE!!

Lets hope he stays in longer then. It's all entertainment. Much better than watching Steve with his arms up on the Sofa doing absolutely nothing.

chuff me dizzy 13-07-2010 08:25 AM

Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen

ElProximo 13-07-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3487767)
Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen


David is deluded into this charismania heresy but I really wonder why you would suppose he is 'raking in dying peoples money' (if that is what you tried to write) and why you are saying 'con man',
and,
'heathen'.

I can kind of understand 'heathen' however I don't see where 'con man' or this idea of him making money comes from?

One thing I got from some brief exchanges with him - he absolutely believes what is going on with this stuff.
He really and truly thinks this is great and the real deal and when he tries to convince someone of it he is (in his mind) believing its a good idea.

fingers 13-07-2010 08:39 AM

Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps.

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

xzlr8 13-07-2010 08:56 AM

did you watch how threatening and aggressive his friends were on bbbm towards another attendee when he said dave was homo-phobic!

WOMBAI 13-07-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3487767)
Did I miss this !! bleddy hell ,mind you would my stomach have taken it ? get the one trick pony out of there ,let him go home and spew his bile and rake in dying people money to send his kids to good school ,con man and a heathen

Where does the notion that his kids go to private school come from?

Blueisthecolour 13-07-2010 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3487796)
Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps...[

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

Yes...

That was clearly not serious, they were both laughing about it...

Dunno...

crit 13-07-2010 09:09 AM

I so desperately want to vote this guy out now.

fingers 13-07-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crit (Post 3487833)
I so desperately want to vote this guy out now.

Straight into a psychiatric ward?

BJ 13-07-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big_bother (Post 3487726)
Why dont they ever show Dave in this state on the HL's ....

Thankfully they're not indulging the idiot

rusticgal 13-07-2010 09:14 AM

Well tbh we need to get all the dullards out first.... at least he adds some sort of entertainment.

fingers 13-07-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 3487845)
Well tbh we need to get all the dullards out first.... at least he adds some sort of entertainment.

That is the very real danger from these cultists, acting like they are harmless buffoons until it is too late to do anything about them.

Livia 13-07-2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElProximo (Post 3487584)
No, its not worse but I am pretty sure this topic wasn't started so people like you can find some antichristian clips and start loading the thread with them?

Nice to see something sensible on these howling, hysterical 'Dave threads'. Reading some of these posts it's easy to understand how people can be whipped up into the kind of hateful frenzy where they are capable of burning another person at the stake for believing something they don't.

chuff me dizzy 13-07-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3487853)
That is the very real danger from these cultists, acting like they are harmless buffoons until it is too late to do anything about them.

i agree ,he needs to go ,whilst ever hes in there people with think hes"harmless" and hes is far from it ,he should not be allowed to advertise his sect on national tv

Shasown 13-07-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3487936)
i agree ,he needs to go ,whilst ever hes in there people with think hes"harmless" and hes is far from it ,he should not be allowed to advertise his sect on national tv

I would hardly call it advertising, he comes across as a bit of a fruit loop.

Would many people be persuaded to join his 'cult' or sect as you call it from his performance in the house?

I think most right minded people and a good few wrong minded ones simply put him down as a crank, well meaning, well intentioned, but a crank nonetheless.

smudgie 13-07-2010 10:13 AM

:joker::joker::joker: His laughing is so fake, and when he asks if "did you see my legs moving..it was the angels pulling them" I could not believe it.
He has lost the plot.

ElProximo 13-07-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3487796)
Did he or did he not claim to have cured a woman of cancer by laying on his hands?

Did he or did he not tell Steve that God would grow him new legs if he would let him (dave) lay his hands on the stumps.

Is that Charlatanism or is it not?

No, it is not 'Charlatanism'. That would be a word used to describe someone who is deliberately exaggerating/misrepresenting and deceptive about claims to special skills and cures.

David (and this is probably worse news) but David actually believes that this happened and that it can happen and will happen again. He really believes it, is convinced of it.
He is 'sincerely' claiming it.

Hey.. , you can believe I am not 'defending him' or agreeing with him. I would be MORE relieved to find out he was just an atheist trickster,
but,
sadly, its all too apparent he really does believe it and so it is incorrect to say he is a 'Charlatan' which implies or insinuates some kind of 'knowing deceit'.

fingers 13-07-2010 10:42 AM

Charlatan: someone who professes knowledge or expertise, esp in medicine, that he does not have;
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud;
a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes.

flamingGalah! 13-07-2010 10:44 AM

I honestly think he is mentally disturbed, probably long lasting damage from years of drug & alcohol abuse. He needs help...

ElProximo 13-07-2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3488077)
Charlatan: someone who professes knowledge or expertise, esp in medicine, that he does not have;
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud;
a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes.

Yes.
This is what I tried to explain to you earlier. You really don't need to rub your own face in it.

Its important to identify problems first before you can solve them.

flamingGalah! 13-07-2010 11:09 AM

But Dave claims he can cure cancer & other illnesses, he obviously cannot, so he is a FRAUD is he not??? :conf:

chuff me dizzy 13-07-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie888 (Post 3487068)
The Monk is laughing like a hyena saying he is posessed by the holy spirit..he has just about cleared the room....growing up as a catholic i understand the influence the church can have on you but he has taken it to another level and added his own crap which is worrying...very worrying...think Waco and you will be on the right track....:devil:

Firstly let me pull you up on one pint,he is NOT a monk

-Sue- 13-07-2010 11:13 AM

Dave only does 2 things wrong... everything he says & everything he does... be glad tos ee the back of him... I actually want him out more than I do Ben...

Chels 13-07-2010 11:14 AM

I think it's mint how he's an ex football hooligan haha! :D

ElProximo 13-07-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3488137)
But Dave claims he can cure cancer & other illnesses, he obviously cannot, so he is a FRAUD is he not??? :conf:

No.
It is obvious to him that he has done that and it can be done again. So it is not FRAUD.

I'm not sure why you are confused about this because you would constantly be using and applying this idea in your daily life. Applying to yourself and to others around you.
In your lifetime its probably going to happen that a Doctor will be convinced some kind of medication will cure something, prescribe it and its even possible that at some time along the process you and him will even become convinced it is working,
but,
later it will be found that it was not working at all and maybe even was doing more harm than good.
You will never describe this as FRAUD, never accuse the Doctor of FRAUD,
and,
for that matter you will never consider your own self as having been a FRAUD when you reported to the doctor that YOU thought it was working at the time and for a while.

So I don't know why you are confused over this David thing as if you don't know how to apply 'FRAUD' in this case or what the difference is between FRAUD and 'being incorrect' or 'mistaken'?


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