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katie_x 12-01-2006 03:34 PM

Sympathy vote?
 
Whos trying for the sympathy vote - jodie or michael?

Personally i think its michael ... jodie seems to be genuinely upset, with tears! michael on the other hand seems to cry on cue....

Mike 12-01-2006 03:36 PM

Its definately not Michael he has actually been struggling since going into the house.

Fangz 12-01-2006 03:37 PM

I think Jodie's playing for the sympathy vote. Michael's genuinely suffering.

katie_x 12-01-2006 03:37 PM

its what he does and the way he acts when he crys that makes me think hmmm is this genuine but i may be wrong

bex_0614 12-01-2006 03:39 PM

you all forget that he is a performer, an actor if you like. The fact he's cried non stop since entering the house makes me think its an act. jodie genuinely looks upset

Sunny_01 12-01-2006 03:39 PM

Hmm I think both of them to be honest - I think Michaels upset on entering the house was very genuine BUT I think that last night showed he can manipulate and turn on the tears when he wants to.

Jodie well I think that girl has put up with a lot before the tears each time - I would certainly have cried had they gone on with me the way they all did with Jodie last night. I know a lot of it was deserved but I hate witch hunts and that is what this has turned into with Michael, Pete and George.

katie_x 12-01-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
Hmm I think both of them to be honest - I think Michaels upset on entering the house was very genuine BUT I think that last night showed he can manipulate and turn on the tears when he wants to.

Jodie well I think that girl has put up with a lot before the tears each time - I would certainly have cried had they gone on with me the way they all did with Jodie last night. I know a lot of it was deserved but I hate witch hunts and that is what this has turned into with Michael, Pete and George.
Totally agree, last night when he left the room he knew someone would check on him and then came the tears and the rest of the housemates followed. Think its all an act mayb coz of his insecurities. who knows

Leon 12-01-2006 04:15 PM

The way big brother has editied it, Jodie is portrayed as the victim. Barrymore and pete are shown to be bullying her and as such Jodie will get the sympathy vote.

GlitterEyes 12-01-2006 04:18 PM

Jodie has been playing for the sympathy vote since day 1, she tries saying the right things to be liked by the public (animal rights) but she cant withhold a debate without thinking people are out to get her. Barrymore is genuine, anyone could see how overwhelmed he was just on the walk in!

GlitterEyes 12-01-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by Leon
The way big brother has editied it, Jodie is portrayed as the victim. Barrymore and pete are shown to be bullying her and as such Jodie will get the sympathy vote.
BB bosses want Jodie in as she is the one most likely to cop off and she has been causing all the debates...if she went out this week there wouldnt be that much to talk about unless they brought in a new person.

Leon 12-01-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Jodie has been playing for the sympathy vote since day 1, she tries saying the right things to be liked by the public (animal rights) but she cant withhold a debate without thinking people are out to get her. Barrymore is genuine, anyone could see how overwhelmed he was just on the walk in!
But part of the reason she is a strong candidate for the sympathy vote is because the rest of the group are ganging up on her.

You think she planned that?

You think she was able to manipulate the rest of the group in a way they would all turn against her without her doing anything exceptionally bad?

Either she is extremley devious....too devious

Extremley lucky, that she was going to play the sympathy vote then everyone magically turned against her to set it up perfectly.

Or people are just bullying her because they dislike her on a personal level.

Im inclined to lean towards the latter.

GlitterEyes 12-01-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
Hmm I think both of them to be honest - I think Michaels upset on entering the house was very genuine BUT I think that last night showed he can manipulate and turn on the tears when he wants to.

Jodie well I think that girl has put up with a lot before the tears each time - I would certainly have cried had they gone on with me the way they all did with Jodie last night. I know a lot of it was deserved but I hate witch hunts and that is what this has turned into with Michael, Pete and George.
The thing which stood out for me was although everyone is saying Jodie is getting bullied by barrymore,....Jodie didnt vote him out...so somewhere she must think that there was some sense to his chats.

Question for you all to think about why did Jodie vote george out rather than barrymore?.....

Ruth 12-01-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Hmm I think both of them to be honest - I think Michaels upset on entering the house was very genuine BUT I think that last night showed he can manipulate and turn on the tears when he wants to.

Jodie well I think that girl has put up with a lot before the tears each time - I would certainly have cried had they gone on with me the way they all did with Jodie last night. I know a lot of it was deserved but I hate witch hunts and that is what this has turned into with Michael, Pete and George.
I agree with Sunny on this. I'm not a fan of Jodie - although I'm not a 'hater' either, and I really don't like to see anyone being the subject of a witch hunt.

I think Jodie is a very emotional girl, and she does get upset easily. Sometimes she does play on things to get sympathy I think, but there's no doubt she is finding it tough. She's not helping herself of course. She said that she wanted to change the public opinion of her, but doesn't seem to have actually tried to do that.

Ruth 12-01-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Question for you all to think about why did Jodie vote george out rather than barrymore?.....
I think she would have nominated Michael as well as George and Pete if she could have done, but as she could only nominate two, she just chose George and Pete. I was quite surprised as well that she didn't nominate Michael, after she had argued with him and Pete the night before.

Mike 12-01-2006 04:35 PM

I think her reason for nominating George over Michael is she can see George is the main instigator behind all the arguments, maybe she thinks if he goes then the arguments might stop - thats just me taking a guess.

Slartibartfast 12-01-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Hmm I think both of them to be honest - I think Michaels upset on entering the house was very genuine BUT I think that last night showed he can manipulate and turn on the tears when he wants to.

Jodie well I think that girl has put up with a lot before the tears each time - I would certainly have cried had they gone on with me the way they all did with Jodie last night. I know a lot of it was deserved but I hate witch hunts and that is what this has turned into with Michael, Pete and George.
Totally agree (You're popular tonght Sunny!!), couldn't have put it any better. Well, except that I wouldn't have cried cos I'm a big tough bloke and we're not allowed to cry.... :wink:

One other caveat would be that i think Jodie invites a lot of the problems, she does bring a lot of it upon herself. But the manner of the hounding she is recieving from Pete and George especially has surprised even me. But she really does talk some rubbish at times...

Kore 12-01-2006 04:47 PM

jodies acting innocent

michaels acting like a kid.

SparkleKLW 12-01-2006 04:59 PM

I think maybe both are doing it for sympathy and cries when he wants attention.

Sparkle

stoney12 12-01-2006 05:19 PM

They have both been out of order at times and I think the tears when they come (which is often) is probably about the only time both of they show just how vunerable they really are.

When Barrymore is on his own in the kitchen he sings and jokes about(especially in the morning) and rather than feeling he is acting up i think this is the real him.It can be quite funny too.

katie_x 12-01-2006 07:16 PM

Yea i see that, Barrymore if fine in the mornings or when he's on his own etc. You don't ever see him sitting crying when no1 else is around. Its an act - Why cant we all see it!!

Dan_ 12-01-2006 07:24 PM

He's cried when he's alone & with people around, he's emotinally unstable and so's Jodie, think both are playing for sympathy in some respects though.

stoney12 12-01-2006 07:26 PM

Not sure....he cry's when confronted.On his own with the washing up to distract him he seems happy as Larry.

He still ain't well tatie,he might be misguided being there but I really don't think he's acting.

Lovin' the kitten.

Tanser_Man 12-01-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by ll_tatie_ll
Yea i see that, Barrymore if fine in the mornings or when he's on his own etc. You don't ever see him sitting crying when no1 else is around. Its an act - Why cant we all see it!!
How about sitting in the garden, crying by himself. How about sitting in the diary room. crying by himself.

Another silly post.

Sunny_01 12-01-2006 07:42 PM

Yeah but Tanser sitting in the garden on his own crying when you know you are likely to be followed is manipulative behaviour! Michael is playing the game as well - he is drawing as much attention to himself as Jodie is.

Jodie is becoming a big ole pain in the butt however no worse than the others involved in all the madness of he said she said!

Tanser_Man 12-01-2006 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Sunny_01
Yeah but Tanser sitting in the garden on his own crying when you know you are likely to be followed is manipulative behaviour! Michael is playing the game as well - he is drawing as much attention to himself as Jodie is.

Jodie is becoming a big ole pain in the butt however no worse than the others involved in all the madness of he said she said!
The only reason he was crying then is because George was talking about how he wanted him to succeed and you could she him clamming up behind him. Then he went outside so that people wouldn't make a fuss of him crying.

You really think if he was manipulative he would have made a run to cry in the garden? Please, i question your aptitude. In the nicest possible way of course.

Sunny_01 12-01-2006 07:58 PM

And in the nicest possible way I stand by what I said :hello:

I think each and every one of them involved in the ongoing drama is displaying manipulative behaviour

cc100 12-01-2006 07:58 PM

I think Michael knows what hes doing, but its still genuinely upsetting to see a grown man cry.

As for Jodie, Im not sure how to take her tears. Im leaning towards thinking they are fake. I just hate to see people cry.

stoney12 12-01-2006 08:18 PM

I agree with Tanser.From day one (in the toilet) michael has tried to hide his tears.
I don't think he wants to cry,I think he is still in an unstable place where he cannot stop it.

Sunny_01 12-01-2006 08:22 PM

I agree he is unstable, I think he should leave the house and not for any other reason than to be kind to himself BUT he is still capable and displaying manipulative behaviour.

I think that you will find I did say I feel his initial emotions on entering the house where genuine, he seemed overwhelmed.

SparkleKLW 12-01-2006 09:52 PM

There are some ppl that can make themselves cry i'm not saying michael is doing that but how do you know it's genuine we don't know if jodies is genuine unless you really know that person.I think to keep doing it like that you might think he was playing up to the cameras,and he seemed to have walked out when Rula said a few truths.I think the 1st time was genuine but i think the rest of the time its for sympathy.

Sparkle

stoney12 12-01-2006 09:58 PM

I think they both are genuine when they cry.Its the rest of the time I'm not sure.

Jodie try's to be a tough nut and does'nt want to be seen crying.

Barrymore's tears come almost spontaneously and has a man with a plan to make a comeback as a lihgt entertainer i am sure that blabbing is not part of any masterpan he may have.

katf 12-01-2006 10:06 PM

Its really long, but please read it.. it took AGES! well, not really but still...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ll_tatie_ll
Whos trying for the sympathy vote - jodie or michael?

Personally i think its michael ... jodie seems to be genuinely upset, with tears! michael on the other hand seems to cry on cue....


I really hate the fact that everyones having a go at Jodie. Have I been wtaching the same program as everyone else? I know, everyone has there own opinions, but it has to be said, some are stupid.. and really annoying!
I have watched every minute.. maybe not the live stuff though.
People are being too harsh on Jodie, I think she went into the house for a geniune reason, and yeah shes got famous for being a slut or whatever, but she has been in the public eye for god knows long, and shes kept her self in. That in my eyes is a skill, I odnt care what people say I love her!
I think she went into the house being percieved in a pareticular way, I guess you could argue that Michael did to,l but not the same extent I think. Becuae he got given more of a chance. After a few days she was accused of all sorts of sh!t and it's completely unfair.
All the old grumps have grouped together and ganged up on the poeple thatvare actually in there for a laugh, and appear to be making the show worth watching. i really think Jodies being herself in there, she hasnt once appeared stupid, and yeah she discusses sex George, I think quite a lot of poeple do that, everyone I know has an interest in it, and i go to a stuck up grammar school in kent. Dont judge Jodie give her a chance!
This is getting way too long.




Anyway, to conclude, without trying to sound superior, it's not a good idea to vote out the poeple that you hate, I mean yeah you want them to win (keep in the preston!) but if you get rid of all the eccentric characters that we love to hate, the showis just gonna get boring, and will end up a load of old hasbeens sitting around doing nothing.. literally nothing. :sleep:

Keep in Jodie, controversy is what keeps this house alive! As long as her pete and .. maybe barrymore are there, no probs.


Oh and also, what kind of serious MP goes into the BIG BROTHER house? Noone with a serious political career should do that surely.
What better reason to get him out now, hes going to give his fund to some terrorist thing apparently (sorry I odnt know much about that its just what i heard) he is .. just wierd, GET GEORGE OUT!!


If you took the time to read this, thankyou :D and I hope you have an equally long reply, be it positive or negative, I will watch big brother till I die,.. or it ends. Long live BB!.. and dermot o'leary :D :thumbs:

Thanks, later
xxxxxxx

InTheHood 12-01-2006 10:07 PM

Both!

I think Jodie wants people to see Jodie as different to her image, and Michael wants to be accepted back into the UK.

Pete also wants sympathy, his hiding behind the mask isn't working.

katf 12-01-2006 10:15 PM

Oh and ALSO (hehe, sorry)
 
How many times has barrymore contradicted himself, or just been really stupid? I thought people might disagree so I think I have a few examples.

He was talking to Joide and pete, pete finished what he was saying, so jodie started talking and barrymore basically told her to shut up and listen. Which she did, he ocntinued to tell her to stop talking and listen, when is she supposed to give her side of the events? Traci did tell her to 'Share', but every time she does she gets abuse hurled at her.

Barrymore made a huge fuss about her crying infront of the cameras, firstly its a house of cameras, its what were supposed to see, fool.. (sorry Im getting worked up now)
And secondly, what happened a little later on? he goes out into the gardem, probably the easiest place to see whats going on, and here come the water works, not to mention the times he has sat in the diary room crying, Im sorry this man is a walking contradiction.

I swear if the housemates were sitting where we are the nominations would have been different.

Pete is a selfish bitch, get him out! but george first!! Then barrymore!!

And well done to preston chantelle and rule for not joining in the bitch fest about Jodie, even dennis started, and shes done nothing to him.




well I feel a lot better now Ive got that off my chest :)


:mad: GET GEORGE OUT!! :love: Jodie rules

thanks forum xxx:dog:

bunnipowder 13-01-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Fangz
I think Jodie's playing for the sympathy vote. Michael's genuinely suffering.
is he being hounded when ever he opens his mouth then?is he being victimised? genuinely suffering it wouldnt take him 10 mintues to get his crocodile tears running if so. genuinely suffering?he knows where the door is


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