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Abhorsen 15-08-2010 02:09 PM

Why shouldn't Dave win? Even if he is a con artist!
 
It's hilarious watching all the posters on the forum getting their knickers in a twist over Dave, because *in their opinion* he is a bad person, con artist, fake whatever, blah, blah. But isn't it funny how those same posters don't want to hold their fave HMs up to the same scrutiny as Dave - it's almost as if they are just bias and trying to find any reasons to get votes against Dave to save their own fave HM (but that couldn't be their motive could it :shocked: LOL.)

Give it up. Dave deserves votes for what he has done in the house and not what he has or has not done out of the house. It is game show!!! Not judgement day!!!

You're only going on about Dave to save your own HM, enough with YOUR fake *moral high ground*.

Obviously BB checked his background and they are fine with it, so he is OK, if he wasn't OK BB would not have put him in the house.

smudgie 15-08-2010 02:10 PM

He gets my vote to go on Friday, based on his personality in the house. Obnoxious twit that he is.:hugesmile:

Beastie 15-08-2010 02:13 PM

I like Dave. Hope he makes the final!

fingers 15-08-2010 02:13 PM

I do not have any favourite, and St. Dave is nothing but a charlatan who conned BB into INVITING him in, they probably thought it would be hilarious to have him lurching around in a "drunken stupor" for weeks!

The Truth Is Out There! 15-08-2010 02:19 PM

I'm not voting for any favourite - but I object to the principle of BB inviting him on to BB because of his 'cult' and I object to his sumbliminal evangelizing on our screens! And no, I am not religious, I just have respect for those that are and the 'Joe Bloggs' average decent human being!

watchinittoomuch 15-08-2010 02:25 PM

Wahey! Gwan Abhorsen!

Each and every one of the housemates in that house has been called out as fake on some aspect of their personality, so it's a good point, arent they conmen too? If what they are portraying is not what they really are?

FWIW I only support housemates regarding their time in the house and not out of it aswell, and I'd be happy for a Dave or Josie win :D

paper-cut-exit 15-08-2010 02:33 PM

It's also hilarious watching the Dave fans try to discredit others that dislike Dave... making assumptions that it must be down to tactics to save their faves.

I'm sure alot of people just dislike Dave because of certain traits in his personality that are not very likeable.

I have no faves in the house btw.

Lex 15-08-2010 02:33 PM

I'm not bothered whether Rasputin is a con-man or not!!
I just cannot stand the 'two-faced back-stabbing Judas' for what he did to Ben!!
I was over the moon when 'Snakeymario' gave him some of his own medicine in the S+R!!...Best thing that the 'little Viper' has done since he took the mole outfit off!! :devil:

fingers 15-08-2010 02:38 PM

I don't doubt that a lot of forummers would applaud and support Osama bin Laden if he was in the house! On the premise that, who cares what he does on the outside, he makes me laugh!

psychtracker 15-08-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663272)
I don't doubt that a lot of forummers would applaud and support Osama bin Laden if he was in the house! On the premise that, who cares what he does on the outside, he makes me laugh!

Note : There's a little underhanded attempt by our mate fingers to compare Dave to Osama Bin Laden.

Seriously, if fingers & some of the other anti-Dave posse...(who, monotonously for most of the last 10 weeks have filled this forum with hate threads and posts), if they could of channeled some of that energy into positivity, the world would be a slightly better place! :)

fingers 15-08-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychtracker (Post 3663361)
Note : There's a little underhanded attempt by our mate fingers to compare Dave to Osama Bin Laden.

Seriously, if fingers & some of the other anti-Dave posse...(who, monotonously for most of the last 10 weeks have filled this forum with hate threads and posts), if they could of channeled some of that energy into positivity, the world would be a slightly better place! :)

AS usual you get the twisting of words to suit an agenda, where did I compare St. Dave to Osama bin Laden?? unlike one of of your mates on DS who compared him to Jesus Christ.

psychtracker 15-08-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663386)
AS usual you get the twisting of words to suit an agenda, where did I compare St. Dave to Osama bin Laden?? unlike one of of your mates on DS who compared him to Jesus Christ.

See, there you are getting another lil dig at him. Breathe deeply and relax, BB will be all over in 9 days....

fingers 15-08-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychtracker (Post 3663402)
See, there you are getting another lil dig at him. Breathe deeply and relax, BB will be all over in 9 days....

When your mate St. Dave breathes deeply it is a sign that he is lying.

BB_Eye 15-08-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3663137)
It's hilarious watching all the posters on the forum getting their knickers in a twist over Dave, because *in their opinion* he is a bad person, con artist, fake whatever, blah, blah. But isn't it funny how those same posters don't want to hold their fave HMs up to the same scrutiny as Dave - it's almost as if they are just bias and trying to find any reasons to get votes against Dave to save their own fave HM (but that couldn't be their motive could it :shocked: LOL.)

Give it up. Dave deserves votes for what he has done in the house and not what he has or has not done out of the house. It is game show!!! Not judgement day!!!

You're only going on about Dave to save your own HM, enough with YOUR fake *moral high ground*.

Obviously BB checked his background and they are fine with it, so he is OK, if he wasn't OK BB would not have put him in the house.

I'm sorry, but you're going to have to explain that. Do all the other housemates run organizations that I don't know about that exploit and lie to some of the most vulnerable members of society?

fingers 15-08-2010 03:27 PM

Posted on DSpy by Blissed_off:

Oh yes, that bloody wheelchair video.
Right, for those that were questioning why Dave was filmed in a wheelchair, here goes.
For years the church has placed so much importance on our efforts, on what we as people do, not on what Jesus Christ has already done on the cross.
Dave was immobilzed by the presence of God, completely blotto. He wanted to show that you don't even need to walk to carry the presence of Jesus and manifest the finished work of the cross, our effort is not required, Jesus did it all! It's awesome.
Dave was aware that it was a controversial thing to do, Jesus often did controversial things. Yes what he did is open to misinterpretation and misunderstanding but he did it anyway as he had a point to prove.

He was not pretending to be disabled to fleece money out of people as people have intimated.

flamingGalah! 15-08-2010 03:34 PM

As far as I'm aware none of the other housemates have fleeced cancer victims out of money on the outside & told them they can cure them for £30... But if they did I would hate them just as much as I hate Dave... :xyxwave:

Patricia4 15-08-2010 03:36 PM

I dont like Dave

stoney 15-08-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663163)
I do not have any favourite, and St. Dave is nothing but a charlatan who conned BB into INVITING him in, they probably thought it would be hilarious to have him lurching around in a "drunken stupor" for weeks!

I always thought dave WAS your favourite fingers:conf:

You spend so much of your time on here talking about him:joker:

chuff me dizzy 15-08-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3663137)
It's hilarious watching all the posters on the forum getting their knickers in a twist over Dave, because *in their opinion* he is a bad person, con artist, fake whatever, blah, blah. But isn't it funny how those same posters don't want to hold their fave HMs up to the same scrutiny as Dave - it's almost as if they are just bias and trying to find any reasons to get votes against Dave to save their own fave HM (but that couldn't be their motive could it :shocked: LOL.)

Give it up. Dave deserves votes for what he has done in the house and not what he has or has not done out of the house. It is game show!!! Not judgement day!!!

You're only going on about Dave to save your own HM, enough with YOUR fake *moral high ground*.

Obviously BB checked his background and they are fine with it, so he is OK, if he wasn't OK BB would not have put him in the house.

Excuse me ? have you lost someone with cancer ? have you ever had cancer yourself ? if you answer yes to either of these question wyou would KNOW without asking why this lowlife conman shouldnt even be in the BB house ,never mind win it,

fingers 15-08-2010 03:43 PM

Vindication of our posts will come on Friday when the Charlatan gets his marching orders and can bugger off back to Wales and his stupid Cult.

What a great name fo a Film or his Epitaph! "Back to Oblivion"

stoney 15-08-2010 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3663464)
Excuse me ? have you lost someone with cancer ? have you ever had cancer yourself ? if you answer yes to either of these question wyou would KNOW without asking why this lowlife conman shouldnt even be in the BB house ,never mind win it,

chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing:nono:

chuff me dizzy 15-08-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoney (Post 3663472)
chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing:nono:

Shame on you

cassieparis 15-08-2010 04:18 PM

there have been other con artist winners but they had much more game. dave has no game whatsoflipping ever.

Claymores 15-08-2010 04:22 PM

Dave can cure cancer with the lord - he should win :thumbs:

BB_Eye 15-08-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoney (Post 3663472)
chuff get off your high horse please.

As someone that has lost both my father and mother to cancer I have no problemn with Dave, even if he is "selling" hope to some fellow believers, or his fellow believers saying what they actually believe even if I disagree with it.

this is just another anti dave stick that is being USED to beat him with and something I find as equally repulsive as you seem to take the claims he, and fellow believers, make about faith healing:nono:

You think that brainwashing and taking advantage of cancer patients has no bearing on somebody's character? That there is nothing insidious or exploitative in what he does? And more to the point, are you really so flippant that you can say somebody's comments on an internet forum are 'equally repulsive'?

Vicky. 15-08-2010 04:32 PM

I dont like Dave.

But I do agree that people should be judged based on what they do INSIDE the house.

flamingGalah! 15-08-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3663578)
Dave can cure cancer with the lord - he should win :thumbs:

What a disgusting thing to say & joke about... :nono:

Abhorsen 15-08-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Is Out There! (Post 3663194)
I'm not voting for any favourite - but I object to the principle of BB inviting him on to BB because of his 'cult'

That isn't the reason BB put him on the show. That would be like saying BB put Corin on the show to promote tanning beds. LOL.

Quote:

and I object to his sumbliminal evangelizing on our screens!
RLMAO.

The Truth Is Out There! 15-08-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663272)
I don't doubt that a lot of forummers would applaud and support Osama bin Laden if he was in the house! On the premise that, who cares what he does on the outside, he makes me laugh!

You're certainly on form - you make me laugh!:joker: Keep going!:hugesmile:

Abhorsen 15-08-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch (Post 3663218)
Wahey! Gwan Abhorsen!

Each and every one of the housemates in that house has been called out as fake on some aspect of their personality, so it's a good point, arent they conmen too? If what they are portraying is not what they really are?

FWIW I only support housemates regarding their time in the house and not out of it aswell, and I'd be happy for a Dave or Josie win :D

Exactly, HMs should only be judged on their time in the house, nothing more. Apart from anything else, it would be silly for anyone to think they could judge someone's whole life so far and then decide whether to phone vote for them on a reality TV show on the basis of their *judgement*.

chuff me dizzy 15-08-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhorsen (Post 3663640)
Exactly, HMs should only be judged on their time in the house, nothing more. Apart from anything else, it would be silly for anyone to think they could judge someone's whole life so far and then decide whether to phone vote for them on a reality TV show on the basis of their *judgement*.

WRONG,He should never have been allowed in in the first place,so would you think it ok for a paedo,murderer,terrorist to go in ?

Abhorsen 15-08-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663272)
I don't doubt that a lot of forummers would applaud and support Osama bin Laden if he was in the house! On the premise that, who cares what he does on the outside, he makes me laugh!

Now you compare Dave to a terrorist. LOL.

Claymores 15-08-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 3663619)
What a disgusting thing to say & joke about... :nono:

I was reflecting a tale that Dave told to other HMs when he put hands-on. As a cancer survivor who still has to go to Clinical Oncology every 3 months to be scanned for more, I find YOUR remark as objectionable as Dave's

BB_Eye 15-08-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 3663644)
WRONG,He should never have been allowed in in the first place,so would you think it ok for a paedo,murderer,terrorist to go in ?

In before Sisqo jokes

chuff me dizzy 15-08-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3663669)
I was reflecting a tale that Dave told to other HMs when he put hands-on. As a cancer survivor who still has to go to Clinical Oncology every 3 months to be scanned for more, I find YOUR remark as objectionable as Dave's

Ditto on both counts ,no wonder we HATE Dave,IF someone had said to me when I was 1st diagnosed they could cure me for £30 I would have handed it over in a heartbeat ,Dave and his cult make a living (and a pretty good living too, posh cars ,flying all over the world) ,out of conning people like you and me

flamingGalah! 15-08-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymores (Post 3663669)
I was reflecting a tale that Dave told to other HMs when he put hands-on. As a cancer survivor who still has to go to Clinical Oncology every 3 months to be scanned for more, I find YOUR remark as objectionable as Dave's

Hardly a thing to joke about then is it? I lost my Dad to cancer by the way...

starry 15-08-2010 06:38 PM

He was never going to win, he is too old to fit the profile of a winner. However he has done very well to get this far.

fingers 15-08-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starry (Post 3663887)
He was never going to win, he is too old to fit the profile of a winner. However he has done very well to get this far.

The only reason he is still in there is because the Press have a gagging order to NOT report his real life outside the house.:wavey:

stoney 16-08-2010 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3663607)
You think that brainwashing and taking advantage of cancer patients has no bearing on somebody's character? That there is nothing insidious or exploitative in what he does? And more to the point, are you really so flippant that you can say somebody's comments on an internet forum are 'equally repulsive'?



what you haters just dont get is they are not brainwashing anyone.
Some people actual believe in faith healing.
for some it brings a little hope in a bad time and even for a very few some relief.
Yes I do find it repulsive that some people use this fact and distort it in a point scoring exercise to try to drum up support against someone in a gameshow simply to help their favourite win it:nono:

ElProximo 16-08-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3663163)
I do not have any favourite, and St. Dave is nothing but a charlatan who conned BB into INVITING him in, they probably thought it would be hilarious to have him lurching around in a "drunken stupor" for weeks!

It is true - Dave was found on Youtube, sought out and then invited. Which is fine.
It is also true that they invited him for the very point and purpose of acting shamefully in 'drunken stupor'.
David agrees with this. He explained this at the very beginning and said he knew that was why.
He also explained how he did not feel comfortable around new people in a new environment and wasn't 'himself' (meaning, going into drunken glory easily).

So in these things you agree with me and I don't think anyone else here disagrees.

The problem is that you do understand BB found him - sought him out - invited him...
...then you insist that he 'conned' them into inviting him.
How and why?
Do you think he created this 'persona' or 'character' somehow knowing it would lure BB into inviting him?
That was what BB was looking for and so for years he put on this character all to dupe the BB people who he knew would look for a drunk preacher housemate?


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