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lostalex 04-09-2010 01:54 PM

Is it offensive to say...
 
That the vast majority, like 99% of heterosexual men would never EVER touch Nadia?

Why do we act like we live in such an accepting society, when we all know this is the truth?

Do you call all men who wouldn't be attracted to Nadia BECAUSE she's a post-op ******, does that make them "transphobic?"

Why do we pretend that str8 men would ever be attracted to that?

I think alot of people on this website, are being Idealistic and Naive.

It's easy for str8 women and gay men to be tolerant of people like Nadia, but do we honestly think that Nadia is attractive to true heterosexual men?

And, is it WRONG for heterosexual men to not be attracted to her? I don't think it is.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 04-09-2010 01:58 PM

some straight guys like ******s though. most of the time they are freaks that like to wear nappies and be breastfed but beggars cant be choosers

InOne 04-09-2010 01:59 PM

She should go work in a fetish Brothel

SoBig 04-09-2010 02:00 PM

I'm a straight male and I'm attracted to FEMALES. Not men that had surgery to make their appearance to look like that of a female.

Jamietwo 04-09-2010 02:01 PM

lmao ..... what's personal sexual preference got to do with it? i'm a gay but i wouldn't sleep with 99.99 % of gay men does that mean i'm homophobic? also i don't find any black men attractive, does that mean i'm racist?

CaudleHalbard 04-09-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756576)
That the vast majority, like 99% of heterosexual men would never EVER touch Nadia?

Not if you've done a proper, statistically valid survey! :)

Have you?

Also is the first thing Nadia would say to a man that she is a transsexual? I doubt it! ;)

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:03 PM

No one has answered the questions i actually asked yet.....

SoBig 04-09-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756613)
No one has answered the questions i actually asked yet.....

I agree with everything in your OP.

smudgie 04-09-2010 02:05 PM

No, it is not offensive to say what you have written.
However, that is only my personal opinion and it would not affect me in any way. Perhaps others may feel differently about it.

CaudleHalbard 04-09-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756613)
No one has answered the questions i actually asked yet.....


That may be because you have started with an assertion based solely on your own prejudices? Just a thought! ;)

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBig (Post 3756618)
I agree with everything in your OP.

do you think it's fair for people to call you "transphobic" just because you're not attracted to post-op transexuals?

i don't think it's fair at all.

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:09 PM

I also don't think it's fair at all that i'm expected to relate to or defend Nadia, just cause i'm a gay man.


i don't understand how i, as a gay man, am suppossed to relate to a heterosexual woman, like nadia.

Why are transgender women, who claim to be hetereosexual women, how are they at all connected to me, as a gay man???

i don't get it.

it's all incredibly confusing to me, and i'm sick of being accussed of being "transphobic" for not being able to relate to her.

Jamietwo 04-09-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756628)
do you think it's fair for people to call you "transphobic" just because you're not attracted to post-op transexuals?

i don't think it's fair at all.

who is calling you trans-phobic because you won't give sleep with a ******? who cares who or what you want to sleep with? if a ****** doesn't want to sleep with you would that offend you? lol

SoBig 04-09-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756628)
do you think it's fair for people to call you "transphobic" just because you're not attracted to post-op transexuals?

i don't think it's fair at all.

Of course its not fair. They still aren't females.

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamietwo (Post 3756642)
who is calling you trans-phobic because you won't give sleep with a ******? who cares who or what you want to sleep with? if a ****** doesn't want to sleep with you would that offend you? lol

it seems anyone who doesn't pretend she's a normal female, is accused of being transphobic.

Vicky. 04-09-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756628)
do you think it's fair for people to call you "transphobic" just because you're not attracted to post-op transexuals?

No, that assumption would be ridiculous.

People arent attracted to other people for a variety of reasons.

Not fancying her, would not make you transphobic...why on earth do you ask :conf:

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756652)
it seems anyone who doesn't pretend she's a normal female, is accused of being transphobic.

What I don't get is why you care.

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3756654)
What I don't get is why you care.

well i take yur point. ofcourse caring about people's lives, people you don't know, people yu see on TV is pathetic in and of itself.... but that's why we're all here right?? that's what this forum is for right? lol

This is Big Brother.... apt title for a website :P

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756659)
well i take yur point. ofcourse caring about epople's ives, people you don't know, epople yu see on TV is pathetic n and of itself.... but that's why we're all here right?? that's what thsi forum is for right? lol

This is Big Brother.... apt title for a website :P

I know, but I don't think any of us are pretending most straight guys don't go for trannies. But some do and I'm sure there are plenty of them to go around considering transsexuals aren't exactly common.

eye sea 04-09-2010 02:17 PM

Yeah but 99% of straight men mightn't 'touch' Vanessa Feltz. ;)

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eye sea (Post 3756663)
yeah but 99% of straight men mightn't 'touch' vanessa feltz. ;)

lol


very good point.

Jamietwo 04-09-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756652)
it seems anyone who doesn't pretend she's a normal female, is accused of being transphobic.

no , you don't have to pretend anything or be anything you're not and you certainly don't have to do sex with people you don't fancy just to be politically correct. It would be nice though for you and for others, if you respected other peoples choices and in this case gender/sex , just allow them to exist, don't start worrying about performing cunnilingus on them! awwww you're so sweet, i can feel breast milk forming in my chest

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:20 PM

But we're not all gonna get called anti-semetic for talking about how unattractive vanessa feltz is... that's the difference...

Vicky. 04-09-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756669)
But we're not all gonna get called anti-semetic for talking about how unattractive vanessa feltz is... that's the difference...

You wouldnt be called 'anti-semetic' for talking about how unattractive you find nadia.

The problem is when you start calling her a man beast and such.

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 3756673)
You wouldnt be called 'anti-semetic' for talking about how unattractive you find nadia.

The problem is when you start calling her a man beast and such.

Nadia's not jewish. i'm just saying, nadia' is repulsive in many ways that have nothing to do with her hormone pills and plastic surgery, but we get called transhobic for pointing thoe things out...

Vanessa Feltz is a minority for being jewish obviously, but if we point out the same things about vanessa, her manly figure and sergeries, no one would presume we are attacking her just because of her minority status.

Chuckyegg 04-09-2010 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=lostalex;3756576]That the vast majority, like 99% of heterosexual men would never EVER touch Nadia?
QUOTE]

78.3% of statistics are made up on the spot

Vicky. 04-09-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756680)
Nadia's not jewish. i'm just saying, nadia' is repulsive in many ways that have nothing to do with her hormone pills and plastic surgery, but we get called transhobic for pointing thoe things out...

Please point me to ONE post where you, or anyone else, have been called transphobic for just saying nadia was ugly/unattractive/repulsive without mentioning her surgery :)

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:36 PM

Why does everyone mispell (and even mispronounce most of the time) 'anti-semitic'?

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3756715)
Why does everyone mispell (and even mispronounce most of the time) 'anti-semitic'?

it's anti-semEtic in American. are you being xenophobic against me for being American???

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756721)
it's anti-semEtic in American. are you being xenophobic against me for being American???

No it ain't. :p

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:44 PM

*checks Webster's..... I'm right!

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:47 PM

*also checks Merriam-Webster*
You're wrong
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semetic

lostalex 04-09-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3756740)
*also checks Merriam-Webster*
You're wrong
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semetic

well you don't have to be a jerk about it. :nono:

lol :P

BB_Eye 04-09-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756750)
well you don't have to be a jerk about it. :nono:

lol

Well you had the humility to respond. ;)

lostalex 04-09-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3756762)
Well you had the humility to respond. ;)

fair play.

Shardlake 04-09-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756576)
That the vast majority, like 99% of heterosexual men would never EVER touch Nadia?

Why do we act like we live in such an accepting society, when we all know this is the truth?

Do you call all men who wouldn't be attracted to Nadia BECAUSE she's a post-op ******, does that make them "transphobic?"

Why do we pretend that str8 men would ever be attracted to that?

I think alot of people on this website, are being Idealistic and Naive.

It's easy for str8 women and gay men to be tolerant of people like Nadia, but do we honestly think that Nadia is attractive to true heterosexual men?

And, is it WRONG for heterosexual men to not be attracted to her? I don't think it is.

If you were just in a club and she had never been on Big Brother you wouldnt even know her history

I pray to Jesus that you sleep with a woman before you die who up until the age of 25 was a raging homosexual, these kind of attitudes disgust me.

Just thank God that you were fortunate to not be born where you spent your childhood agonising over your gender and sexuality. Also that you never have children born with the same problem.

SoBig 04-09-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3756715)
Why does everyone mispell (and even mispronounce most of the time) 'anti-semitic'?

The American and British spelling of certain words are different.

billy123 04-09-2010 03:53 PM

you would have to be pretty messed up to be attracted to nads

Grimnir 04-09-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3756576)
That the vast majority, like 99% of heterosexual men would never EVER touch Nadia?

Why do we act like we live in such an accepting society, when we all know this is the truth?

Do you call all men who wouldn't be attracted to Nadia BECAUSE she's a post-op ******, does that make them "transphobic?"

Why do we pretend that str8 men would ever be attracted to that?

I think alot of people on this website, are being Idealistic and Naive.

It's easy for str8 women and gay men to be tolerant of people like Nadia, but do we honestly think that Nadia is attractive to true heterosexual men?

And, is it WRONG for heterosexual men to not be attracted to her? I don't think it is.


the main reason Nadia is unattractive is not because she is ******

but because she looks like a bag of potatoes, with one of the potatoes stickin out the top of the bag for her head

stonedape 04-09-2010 04:07 PM

I'm failing to bridge the mental gap between not being attracted to someone and not being able to touch them. Are you physically repulsed by everyone and everything you aren't sexually attracted to?

No. Which means this isn't about lack of attraction, it's about ignorant repulsion based on lack of familiarity. :elephant:


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