Davina said nothing wrong, Coolio is in the right, Nadia is a loud aggressive ape.
 

Let's cut to the chase.

Nadia is an angry, aggressive, monstrous, pathetic, idiotic, foolish, nasty, disgusting, whiny, spoilt, selfish, bitter etc etc person.

Marco lied. Marco is fishing for publicity. He was not chosen for the show. He wasn't even looked at and this is because of his behaviour during BB5 which led to the problems on "fight night". He was left out - is anybody surprised he was left out looking at how he hasn't changed since then.

Nadia, did, fail, the psych test. That is a definite. She should not have been on the show.

What Brian said is hearsay. We don't know if that happened. Brian might very well be making things up but even if he isn't we are looking at Coolio from the US where they are not as idiotic, to use a word, as the Big Brother audience and would call anybody who steps forward to have their genitals removed with a boob job, pointless... it doesn't need the commercialised push it requires over there. It's seen as a sex fetish where Coolio is from anyway - different cultures, different perspectives.

Why don't you ask yourself why Nadia was laughing when he left? Why don't you ask yourself why everything was fine after she left? Or... why not ask yourself why Nadia had other targets and victims after she left? What did Ulrika do to her for screaming like a escaped lunatic? Why is it just people you have someone to blame?

OH NO! COOLIO SAID SOMETHING!!

OH NO! DAVINA SAID SOMETHING!

Why not? What Nadia said? Why not... consider how politicised the lot of you are that you can't see how manipulated you are not only by the commercialisation around you but also the politics? If you want hi-brow is this a difficult area to step in because it will take the fun away from the *******ing Witch Hunt??

So, Coolio left mutually. That's what we were told and that is what happened. Nadia probably fancied him and didn't like how she came in thinking she would win with her second chance at glory and the other girls were getting all the attention from Coolio. For some bizarre reason were supposed to believe that Coolio was some fantasy for the protest groups and we should string him up against a tree so the protesters with their s**t lives have something to do.

So... am I surprised by the reaction? No.

Why? Well it's Big Brother and as somebody else said, it's not Newsnight. You, the audience, all of you, are watching a zoo, a charade, a bunch of exhibitionist attention seekers. You watched Nadia and you chose to judge her and look at her. No offence to anybody but Nadia is still a man and that is because she needs hormones, make up, surgery at extensive life threatening levels to keep this up. Nothing proves otherwise and if it did, the extent to which she has to do this proves that is hardly the case because if you are somebody why need thousands upon thousands of pounds every year to keep it up?

Then again, if you think you're so brilliant and fantastic as a BB viewer then go to University, do a Masters in bio-medical subject and just expect to be laughed at when you think you've got something "conclusive" or "absolute"... if you haven't realised after completing the course that all this Nadia business was just hyped up nonsense from Endemol.

What else is funny? This is why you watch Big Brother. You watch it for incidents like this. As somebody else said on a thread, you don't watch Newsnight for this. Of course Newsnight has it's bias but there is an expression of balance, an expression of inconclusiveness so it makes you laugh when people on a low-brow laugh a minute (at the freaks) show think they have all the answers :joker::joker:

In a few weeks time you will all forget this. Some of you will be watching Strictly Come Dancing, some of you will be watching X Factor, the rest of you when you realise you don't get any attention or smothering from this incident will run away and try and get attention for something else.

This is not a serious incident.

Of course because this takes the gloss away from the witch hunt nobody will think otherwise from this because a couple of the biggest attention seekers on Big Brother if not the world are running around screaming when nobody important give a s**t because they've got actual important things to think about!!

A few valid points there MT.

I notice the "lets support the LGBT without knowing all the facts" brigade leapt straight into the witchhunt against Coolio without even considering what may have happened.

Supposing Coolio had been told Nadia was transgender, he may have been a little curious to know if she was pre-op or post op transgender. If he had of asked her either in those terms or in his more down to earth way - "do you still have your penis?". What would have been Nadias reaction, judging by some of her other outbursts, something akin to light blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance.

Coolio would simply have received abuse from Nadia probably with no answer, so he then asked one or two of the girls if they had seen any signs of a penis. He is American, they have a different culture, are more outspoken and less PC than most Brits.

Then throw in the fact that Nadia expected not only to be treated as some sort of prima donna she also expected to win and boost whatever flagging career she has. Any sort of upsets will be used by her and her shrieking sidekick Marco to gain maximum publicity for themselves, regardless of the truth.

After all if she is shown how wrong she is, she can always fall back on the usual "me no speaky the language too good" excuse she has used in the past.

Apart from Chantelle, all the others hated Coolio as well. He isn't innocent. He was aggressive, made threats and tried to control the kitchen.

Coolio was a ***** the first time and ***** the second time. I would have punched him if he touched my shoes. Nadia is losing it a bit though, she was mean and aggresive on BB Come Dine with Me as well.

So you don't think being elbowed, taunted to the point of breaking down and had your stuff messed around with doesn't justify any anger? :confused: You're an idiot.

Even IF Nadia was actually the way she was inaccurately portrayed, that still wouldn't justify any boos or eggs thrown at her car.

But we don't have any proof that the elbowing etc happened, just Marco sabbas word.

What about other stuff that never got shown? As I say, do you really think Coolio would get chucked out for what was shown when Sam didn't even when he's done worse than what was shown of Coolio?

I think if he elbowed her aggressively that he would have been thrown out yes. I don't like Coolio at all but I'm sorry I'm not going to take Marco "drama Queen" Sabbas word as gospel for anything.

They should both be hurtled into obscurity as soon as possible.

So LGBT is now a brigade??

But it makes perfect sense. As I said, why would Coolio get chucked out for less than what Sam did?

He didnt get chucked out, he was asked if he would modify his behaviour(it wasnt specified what behaviour), he stated that because of the reaction he had got out of nadia, he would continue and if that wasnt what BB wanted then it would be better if he left. BB obliged.

A couple of important differences between Coolio and Sam, when confronted by the "unacceptable behaviour" chat Sam stated he would tone down his behaviour. he also accepted what he did could be very offensive to some. Coolio didnt he stated he saw nothing wrong with his behaviour and he would continue it. And Sam didnt have Nadia throwing the prima strop giving out him or me ultimatums.

I don't believe any of that happened. All a load of made up nonsense because Nadia is lodging in a house in London.

Because Nadia failed the psych test and is a vulnerable adult with mental health problems. They had to do what she said otherwise the whole "why let a fragile person on the show" would have opened up for the final Big Brother.

Coolio would have got paid double to leave.

was going to say more or less what Shasown did below. It's very simple really that bit we did actually see, BB didn't just kick Coolio out they asked him to change his behaviour towards nadia and he refused, simple, they weren't left with any other option.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :sleep: Once again at OP...

BB has already confirmed that what Nadia said took place... :nono:

I agree totally big truck. The allegations don't add up. Coolio might have been talkin some smack and I never personally liked him as a HM but from what I've seen Nadia was the one who went ballistic spitting and wiping on his gear. Much worse behaviour in my opinion. How can one defend that?

As far as the "boyish good looks" comment from Davina she hit the nail spot on.

Have they really?

I dont suppose you could provide a link to back up that claim? Somehow I dont think so. more of your usual flaming?

Terry, I was just about to ask FG the same thing. It seems Makosi confirmed it in a dodgy thread on DS but not BB.

LINK

Yeah, I know Makosi said that coolio had asked about Nadia having a penis, again Makosi is a friend of Nadia, and not the most reliable source in the world.

Knowing how Nadia reacts, can you really see Channel4/Endemol trying to get away with the fair and balanced portrayal comment as a defence, when if what she says is true, they have portrayed Coolio as a prankster and the victim of his supposed bullying as a tempermental bully?

I mean there is judicious editing and then there is a complete reversal of reality.

i actually remember him asking her that, but it came across to me that it was out of interest and not taking the piss out of her.

Which wouldnt really be out of the ordinary if he had already asked Nadia if she was pre or post op and she hadnt answered him except to angrily snap about her privacy and his aggression etc, would it?

Exactly. If they'd shown the footage then there would have been no argument and everyone outside the house would, in some way, understand Nadias reaction. By not showing anything they give us the impression that they've got something to hide.

yeah, i mean Victor asked alot of squirmish questions too like asking Ulrika about Sven and makosi about her sex life but neither of them made an issue of it which they could have done

Oh yeah, it's totally fine to be transphobic.

WTF.
:rolleyes:

Coolio was obviously provoking her and mocking her. Then he took her property to taunt her more.

But he's innocent?

Yeah good luck with that! And please quit acting like youre an expert on everything...its cringey. Now you speak for all Americans on how they view sex change operations? Er, no you do not!

And Nadia fancied him? WTF? You just throw all kinds of random crap into your posts! Im pretty sure he's not her type or any other womans with taste. Truth is, Nadia has her guard up against macho dickheads like him and Jason(BB5). Probably the type of grunting chauvinists that have plagued her life and given her the most stress.

Nadia is far from perfect and certainly has a temper. But Coolio was the antagonist in the house. He started it, she finished it.

True, they should have.

There is a possibility though no one saw anything transphobic in his curiousity and simply put it down to just that curiousity, a little distasteful.

If they start admitting he did ask the other girls whether Nadia had a penis, the witchhunters would jump on any footage claiming ALL Nadia's claims must be true and BB is operating a coverup.

Nardia is too much of a diva, but she wasnt hurting anyone and didnt deserve the stuff coollio did to her.

I agree.

In many ways it already looks like a cover up due to the lack of footage and various HM's all stating the same thing.

Once again the producers have show themselves to be completely inept when dealing with controversial HM's.

LOL

Yeah, everything is right apart from when you speak the truth about protest groups.

I am sure Nadia would take anything that moves.

America is and always will be a country that has a certain view on things and in California, yes, for a certain group of people Trans-sexuals are seen as simply a fetish. It depends upon perspective and that perspective comes from life experience on how people are and what they do and if you think Coolio doesn't have it and hasn't been places then you're just another TV watching rent a charity protester who believes any old wish for money with a Take That/Boyzone soundtrack.

Cue, Marco and Nadia wanting money for their plight because there has been homophobia and transphobia on TV - OH NO! OH NO! DIG DEEP BRITAIN!

Hmm... Jason, Coolio, Victor, Brian, Brian, Sophie Reade, Ulrika... Erm... Everybody in the world that disagrees with her? Yeah? YAA!

You just think the person who shouts the loudest is right.

So much tosh in that post I really dont know where to start! Ive never said anything about protests groups or Nadia always being right. Regards her altercations with Coolio he's the one who started it and declared war. She just wasnt prepared to take his crap.

Firstly you generalise about Americans and now youve reduced it to "a certain group of people in California" who see Transexuality as a fetish? Wow thats a big adjustment! LMAO

Alluding to having a close connection to the show isn't convincing, at all! You do it alot! You have no more idea on whether Nadia failed or passed the psych test than any of us.

Brian wasn't the only hm to talk about the way Coolio behaved towards Nadia. Nick, Dullrika, Preston and Chantelle were also involved in the conversation. They explained in quite a bit of detail to Vanessa exactly what had been going on. Coolio constantly referred to Nadia as 'they' and 'it'. He also asked on a number of occasions for the others to put their hands up her skirt to see if she had a penis. He did all this despite Nadia going into great detail about what she'd been through, including all the surgery, on day 2 in a chat with Coolio in the bathroom. I guess the ignorant ******er forgot, right? :rolleyes: Or maybe he's an offensive bigot.

Makosi has also backed up these claims in an interview after her eviction.

Coolio knew what Nadia had been through, including all of the surgery after having a very calm, normal chat in the bathroom with her on the evening of day 2. No anger, no snapping.

Hate this poster.

Every thread he makes or comments on he just pushes his over the top views on everyone and states thing's that he claims are facts but in actual fact they are completly ficticious.

"Transexuals are only seen as just a fetish in America"?

Pfft...If your gonna claim you knw this sorta stuff then provide sources.

I do recall this moment pretty well and it didn't go anything like what you are talking about in fact you and only you in the whole of the world is the one who brings it across like this - well done on that one.

So... we still stand with what we know. Nadia behaved like an aggressive ape and we know that she is gender dysphoric and we know she is still on the meds - all her own words. Therefore...this is why Coolio left.

It's quite simple isn't it? Isn't it. You just deal with what you know...


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Now for your benefit I will side with you.

Yeah man. Yeah man. Innit do', like, dat Coolio man him like show naa' rispek to Nadia. Him like in dat face man innit like. Him like naa respectin Nadia like and like Nadia yeah man you is speak troofs man cuz we reads the Red Tops and like Celebs n dat cuz we blazin like.

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My pleasure.

Oh no... no...

this was just a conversation. Now you're just using any old piece of footage, twisting it for your benefit and bringing it across as though it was all Nadia like brilliant human being spawned from Angels.

So she's not aggressive? The world is against Nadia because she had her penis removed? or something like that?

Seriously... seriously... who are you trying to kid? Man some people take this sh** too seriously.

Truth hurts doesn't it.

That response just proves how over the top you are.

Then your recollection is scewed.

Tis all there for you to read on the live updates and the WHATM.

The rest of your post is irrelevant sh!te.

Now what are you waffling about??? :puzzled:

The conversation happened.

Where did i say she isn't aggressive?? All i did was reply to the poster who said Nadia would have gone OTT if Coolio had asked nicely about her gender identity and expression of it. I just pointed out that when Coolio did bring up the subject, in a normal convo, Nadia responded without snapping.

Yawn, yawn ****ing yawn :sleep:

If you think discrimination of any kind is acceptable, then you are quite clearly ignorant, vacuous and vile.

Three/four housemates have basically confirmed what happened - rendering this post complete and utter bullshine. I suggest you toddle on with your downright abhorrent and ludicrous opinions before you show yourself up even more as someone who supports discrimination and bullying. Absolutely laughable. Poor little troll.

As I said, probably just a poor little troll. Ignore it.