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Mystic Mock 10-09-2010 10:43 PM

how will channel 4 survive now big brothers ended?
 
because lets face it its easily the most watched show on channel 4,so now they have canceled it how the hell are channel 4 going to survive when all the other shows struggle to get 1 million viewers? i think channel 4 were silly making this decision for buisiness sense.

Jack_ 10-09-2010 10:53 PM

How will C4 survive now Big Brother has ended? They won't.

Scarlett. 10-09-2010 10:57 PM

Easy, they have plenty of other shows, sure there will be a hole without BB, but they will fill it

Maia 10-09-2010 11:00 PM

Channel 4 will die. I'm only gonna tune into it now for Deal or No Deal and Countdown pretty much. Other than that, it'll have nothing going for it.

Vicky. 10-09-2010 11:02 PM

They will now have time to show some more friends repeats...we haven't seen them all yet. Everything is good :D

LaLaLand 10-09-2010 11:02 PM

They're stupid for axing it to be fair. So what if it's "not as popular as it was", it's what C4 is known for primarily and it still manages to pull in decent ratings for a 'secondary channel'.

I think they'll look back and regret this in all honesty.

Scarlett. 10-09-2010 11:04 PM

Channel 4 always **** up good shows, look at BB's precursor, Brookside, axed to make way for BB

SocietyIsRuined 10-09-2010 11:09 PM

They have no other show as they cannot compete with Sky. In five years time, most shows will be downloadebale. Another format will hit with the new consoles which will include games only downloadable. But it's not only C4, the others will be in the same mess too.

Murdoch (owner of Fox) will basically change the future of broadcasting and most of the old terrestrial will go. Pay per view will become the way unfortunately.

Omah 10-09-2010 11:11 PM

Channel 4 had long ago strayed from its original remit - now that BB's finished, it'll become another C5 .....

Quote:

Channel 4 is a British public-service television broadcaster which began working on 2 November 1982. Although largely commercially self-funded, it is ultimately publicly owned; originally a subsidiary of the Independent Broadcasting Authority (IBA), the station is now owned and operated by the Channel Four Television Corporation, a public body established in 1990, coming into operation in 1993.

The channel was established to provide a fourth television service to the United Kingdom that would break the duopoly of the Television licence-funded BBC's two established services and the single commercial broadcasting network, ITV.

Channel 4 was established with, and continues to hold, a remit of public service obligations which it must fulfil.

The preamble of the remit as per the Communications Act 2003 states that:

"The public service remit for Channel 4 is the provision of a broad range of high quality and diverse programming which, in particular:

* demonstrates innovation, experiment and creativity in the form and content of programmes;
* appeals to the tastes and interests of a culturally diverse society;
* makes a significant contribution to meeting the need for the licensed public service channels to include programmes of an educational nature and other programmes of educative value; and
* exhibits a distinctive character."

The remit also involves an obligation to provide programming for schools, and a substantial amount of programming produced outside of Greater London.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4

Scarlett. 10-09-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SocietyIsRuined (Post 3780475)
They have no other show as they cannot compete with Sky. In five years time, most shows will be downloadebale. Another format will hit with the new consoles which will include games only downloadable. But it's not only C4, the others will be in the same mess too.

Murdoch (owner of Fox) will basically change the future of broadcasting and most of the old terrestrial will go. Pay per view will become the way unfortunately.

Not really, we have VoD now, but 30m or more still choose to watch TV

Jamie..... 10-09-2010 11:12 PM

There is always Friends :p

But there are some alright programmes - Deal or No Deal + Coach Trip and Hollyoaks is fairly popular

Mystic Mock 10-09-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie..... (Post 3780504)
There is always Friends :p

But there are some alright programmes - Deal or No Deal + Coach Trip and Hollyoaks is fairly popular

hollyoaks cant even pull 1 million anymore.

Jordan. 10-09-2010 11:17 PM

I hope whatever they replace BB with next year is a complete flop.

Mac Hiavellian 10-09-2010 11:17 PM

I don't know what Shameless' ratings are like but series 8 is 22 eps and I'd imagine more Cutting Edge shows, Million Pound Drop and hopefully, they'll finally pull their finger out and deliver the revamped Friday Night Project that's bene rumoured for a year

arista 10-09-2010 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3780246)
because lets face it its easily the most watched show on channel 4,so now they have canceled it how the hell are channel 4 going to survive when all the other shows struggle to get 1 million viewers? i think channel 4 were silly making this decision for buisiness sense.



They are doing Special Deals With Sky.
The Biggest Power on UK TV.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...partments.html

Scarlett. 10-09-2010 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3780518)
hollyoaks cant even pull 1 million anymore.

Except it neared 2m on Monday :p

C4 may not be good, but Channel 4 can depend on E4, More4 and Film4

the-gaffer 10-09-2010 11:23 PM

I'm hoping that Channel Four actually begin to use their imagination now and actually use the talent coming through the ranks in both writers and actors and start producing good Comedy/Drama/Entertainment programs and since they basically gave birth to Reality TV they can now be the ones to kill it off

Big_Kahuna 10-09-2010 11:27 PM

Gorgon Ramsey will be jizzing in his pants

Marsh. 10-09-2010 11:28 PM

Shameless is doing another series with 22 episodes? God, they really don't know when enough is enough. It outstayed its welcome after series 3/4

mlomax 10-09-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3780246)
because lets face it its easily the most watched show on channel 4,so now they have canceled it how the hell are channel 4 going to survive when all the other shows struggle to get 1 million viewers? i think channel 4 were silly making this decision for buisiness sense.

Tbh, I prefor channel 4 over many over channels.

Here are a few programme's that i find to be popular...

The Inbetweeners
Missfits
Friends
Coach Trip
Big Bang Theory
Hollyoaks
Simpsons
This is england 86

I dont see why you think they wont survive, their far bigger than many over channels for example BBC

only programme's i watch on bbc are

Young Dumb and living off mum.
Eastenders.

Then you have ITV

XFACTOR
Britains got talent
Coronation Street


Channel 4 is by far the biggest channel of the free channels =D

icecakes 10-09-2010 11:54 PM

come dine with me,seems to be their new thing,probably a lot cheaper,they only win £1000

MTVN 11-09-2010 12:05 AM

Friends is being cancelled as well...

C4 are apparently using what they spend on BB to invest in new dramas, not sure how succesful that'll be

Mac Hiavellian 11-09-2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 3780630)
Shameless is doing another series with 22 episodes? God, they really don't know when enough is enough. It outstayed its welcome after series 3/4

Yeah, part of me fears/hopes it's the last series the way it's been going tbh. It picked up a little last year when they got rid of a load of S4-6 characters but they're bringing Monica back for the first ep of S8 I believe. :(

Maybe something big will happen for it's 100th episode

Callum 11-09-2010 12:07 AM

Skins, True Blood. Two other shows which do well on Channel 4.

Mystic Mock 11-09-2010 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomax (Post 3780654)
Tbh, I prefor channel 4 over many over channels.

Here are a few programme's that i find to be popular...

The Inbetweeners
Missfits
Friends
Coach Trip
Big Bang Theory
Hollyoaks
Simpsons
This is england 86

I dont see why you think they wont survive, their far bigger than many over channels for example BBC

only programme's i watch on bbc are

Young Dumb and living off mum.
Eastenders.

Then you have ITV

XFACTOR
Britains got talent
Coronation Street


Channel 4 is by far the biggest channel of the free channels =D

i always thought they put the big bang theory on there sister channel?

Chilltown 11-09-2010 12:45 AM

It'll hang in there, all the major networks do.

LaLaLand 11-09-2010 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomax (Post 3780654)
The Inbetweeners
Missfits
Friends
Coach Trip
Big Bang Theory
Hollyoaks

Simpsons
This is england 86

Friends is being cancelled, Big Bang Theory is E4 bound, Hollyoaks is greatly struggling and This Is England '86 is only 4 episodes.

bananarama 11-09-2010 01:49 AM

They will survive of course.......They just won't have the same ratings.......Getting rid of a program that still has high ratings considering the multi channel choice we now have is total maddness and I believe they will live to regret it.......Its a bit like the FA cancelling the cup final........BB was not just a TV series it was a social interactive institution.........

It will go down as the worst decision in broadcasting history.......It won't ever be back on CH4.Never.......reason!!!! If CH5 do have it and CH5 cannot provide all the trimmings like BBLB and BBBM and hours of live feed then CH5 by default will ruin the show the public will lose all interest in it and no other broadcaster including CH4 would touch it with a 10ft barg pole once hated by the public.....

keithafc 11-09-2010 01:55 AM

It will survive. Big Brother is gone. I don't know if Channel 5 should bring it back. If they don't get it right, it will be a disaster and KILL the show IDEA off for good. After that, there is no turning back.

Colbert-Bump 11-09-2010 02:01 AM

No more property sh*te please.

Kazanne 11-09-2010 07:41 AM

Channel 4 survived before BB and it will survive again,I liked BB but it was axed for a reason,I will miss it,but it's not the end of the world it will be replaced.I loved Brookside and was gutted when it was axed,but I got over it.

Nick.B 11-09-2010 10:02 AM

Personally, I'm not sure how Channel 4 will survive.

Big Brother was Channel 4's top show in terms of ratings. I did read elsewhere that Channel 4 are investing a lot of money in new Drama's and so on but, to be honest, how many of those Drama's are going to get anywhere near the ratings that Big Brother got? I don't think they will.

Therefore, personally, I don't think Channel 4 will do that well in terms of ratings and survivng now they've got rid of Big Brother.They're even cancelling Friends from E4...dear god, they may as well cancel E4 altogether with no BB live Feed and no Friends.

Snukey 11-09-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomax (Post 3780654)
Tbh, I prefor channel 4 over many over channels.

Here are a few programme's that i find to be popular...

The Inbetweeners
Missfits
Friends
Coach Trip
Big Bang Theory
Hollyoaks
Simpsons
This is england 86

I dont see why you think they wont survive, their far bigger than many over channels for example BBC

only programme's i watch on bbc are

Young Dumb and living off mum.
Eastenders.

Then you have ITV

XFACTOR
Britains got talent
Coronation Street


Channel 4 is by far the biggest channel of the free channels =D

The inbetweeners is on E4 and pulls in about 1million
Misfits also E4 and got not even 500k
Friends yes is popular but is also E4 and gets around 300k
Coach Trip does well and i love it and got around 2million
Big Bang Theory also E4 nd probably dosent receive high audiences
Hollyoaks barely musters 1.5million but E4 do that first look which probably gets a few hundred thousand, which is maybe why the actual show isnt as high.
Simpsons meh
And This is england started of well ratings wise but isnt on that long
Come Dine With Me usually get 2million which is good

But Big Brother regularly officially delivers 3million and are consistant and never drops below 2millon, Channel4 will suffer.

supergirthuk 11-09-2010 01:18 PM

Who cares! You decide!

Rob 11-09-2010 01:23 PM

it worked fine before BB, i'm sure it'll fine fine after.

BBfan46 11-09-2010 02:25 PM

Friends is moving to Comedy Central anyway.

InOne 11-09-2010 02:27 PM

It'll be right

Barbie 11-09-2010 02:45 PM

Tis alrigh' we have Dr Christian Jessen with his countless shows, seems to be the new direction for C4

Shardlake 11-09-2010 02:55 PM

They produce some of the best comedies on british TV - The Inbetweeners, Peep Show, The IT Crowd, in the past they have produced Father Ted. No other channel has even half that amount of success, and who's to say they wont come up with the next big idea? They produced Big Brother who knows whats next. If Channel 5 start broadcasting Big Brother in the summer there is no way Ch 4 are going to sit around and let everyone switch over to 5. Something WILL replace it, and it will probably be even better.

They are easily the most innovative british channel and are by no means finished.

Shardlake 11-09-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snukey (Post 3782475)
The inbetweeners is on E4 and pulls in about 1million
Misfits also E4 and got not even 500k
Friends yes is popular but is also E4 and gets around 300k
Coach Trip does well and i love it and got around 2million
Big Bang Theory also E4 nd probably dosent receive high audiences
Hollyoaks barely musters 1.5million but E4 do that first look which probably gets a few hundred thousand, which is maybe why the actual show isnt as high.
Simpsons meh
And This is england started of well ratings wise but isnt on that long
Come Dine With Me usually get 2million which is good

But Big Brother regularly officially delivers 3million and are consistant and never drops below 2millon, Channel4 will suffer.

E4 is channel 4


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