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fingers 12-09-2010 04:41 PM

Shaky Camera Syndrome
 
Be honest!!

Can you really be bothered to watch these films in the current hysterical vogue for hand-held shaking camera movies.

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn (they can make 'em but I don't have to watch 'em!) :devil:

Shaun 12-09-2010 04:45 PM

I only know of Cloverfield...and I liked that.

fingers 12-09-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3785676)
I only know of Cloverfield...and I liked that.

Nah there are many more, you probably haven't noticed this creeping director's ploy to save money on Steadicams!

Angus 12-09-2010 05:40 PM

REC is absolutely amazing (the original Spanish version not the watered down American one), and the hand held camera thing worked fantastically because it was used in context and was totally believable. The last five minutes are truly terrifying!

Tom4784 12-09-2010 05:44 PM

I wasn't a fan of Blair Witch but REC & Cloverfield pulled it off well.

fingers 12-09-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3785808)
REC is absolutely amazing (the original Spanish version not the watered down American one), and the hand held camera thing worked fantastically because it was used in context and was totally believable. The last five minutes are truly terrifying!

Don't know REC, must have a look!

fingers 12-09-2010 06:06 PM

Is this a TV series? or what is the date of it if it's a film? (REC)

IMDB has multi entries, can you supply a link?

Angus 12-09-2010 06:11 PM

Try http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038988/

fingers 12-09-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3785854)

Thnx, going to have a look!

fingers 12-09-2010 06:20 PM

Have ordered from LOVEFILM, is it subtitled, or does it have an additional English soundtrack?

Angus 12-09-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3785866)
Have ordered from LOVEFILM, is it subtitled, or does it have an additional English soundtrack?

Not sure, the copy I've got has subtitles, which I actually prefer because sometimes when they speak in English it's out of synch and puts me off my concentration! Meant to say there is also an American version with that woman from Dexter who plays his sister in the lead role, but having watched the original Spanish version there's no comparison. A bit like The Grudge and The Ring, the original Japanese versions being amazing, whilst the American remakes were utter rubbish.

fingers 12-09-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3785880)
Not sure, the copy I've got has subtitles, which I actually prefer because sometimes when they speak in English it's out of synch and puts me off my concentration! Meant to say there is also an American version with that woman from Dexter who plays his sister in the lead role, but having watched the original Spanish version there's no comparison. A bit like The Grudge and The Ring, the original Japanese versions being amazing, whilst the American remakes were utter rubbish.

Subtitles will be OK (doesn't say if this copy will have them!) I agree that dubbing can be crappy - either out of sync or a totally incongruous accent!

Niamh. 12-09-2010 06:37 PM

I refused to watch Cloverfield for that reason. I got a headache watching Blair Witch and it was sh1te too

BB_Eye 12-09-2010 06:39 PM

I hate it when they use it in action movies like Gladiator, Troy and the Bourne Identity. It totally robs the action set pieces of any sense of flow or excitement. A very bad trend.

fingers 12-09-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3785917)
I refused to watch Cloverfield for that reason. I got a headache watching Blair Witch and it was sh1te too

I agree, that's why I don't watch them, but I'm intrigued by this Rec one! lol

Angus 12-09-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 3785907)
Subtitles will be OK (doesn't say if this copy will have them!) I agree that dubbing can be crappy - either out of sync or a totally incongruous accent!

I think the European ones all have English subtitles - Lol, I know what you mean about the incongruous accents, they can really ruin a good film! Hope you enjoy this one though.

Angus 12-09-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3785921)
I hate it when they use it in action movies like Gladiator, Troy and the Bourne Identity. It totally robs the action set pieces of any sense of flow or excitement. A very bad trend.

I agree - I assume it's supposed to add to the "realism" but if it's used gratuitously it just detracts from the action.

fingers 12-09-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3785921)
I hate it when they use it in action movies like Gladiator, Troy and the Bourne Identity. It totally robs the action set pieces of any sense of flow or excitement. A very bad trend.

Can't see why they even developed Steadicams, when the present crop of asshole Directors won't use them.:conf:

_Seth 12-09-2010 06:55 PM

I hate them so much.

Omen 12-09-2010 07:00 PM

Quantum Of Solace. That's the first time I heard of it.

setanta 13-09-2010 05:05 PM

If it's used properly it can be very effective, especially on tv at home. Never took to it in the cinema though because it's hard for the eyes and brain to accept it on such a large scale. Bourne and Blair are brilliant on the small screen but headwrecking ona big canvas. Just too much to take in.

fingers 13-09-2010 06:21 PM

The Green Zone uses it too, can't comment because I haven't watched it (probably won't, either)

fingers 13-09-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788329)
If it's used properly it can be very effective, especially on tv at home. Never took to it in the cinema though because it's hard for the eyes and brain to accept it on such a large scale. Bourne and Blair are brilliant on the small screen but headwrecking ona big canvas. Just too much to take in.

If it is worked into the film so that you don't realize that it's being used, then fine, but when they use it "for realism" forget it!

Jayson 13-09-2010 06:30 PM

So you've gone from disliking handheld films to ordering one from ILF?

Angus 13-09-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayson (Post 3788602)
So you've gone from disliking handheld films to ordering one from ILF?

Ah, but it won't be a disappointment - REC is a fantastic movie.

fingers 13-09-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3788680)
Ah, but it won't be a disappointment - REC is a fantastic movie.

It was recommended, I don't have a closed mind!

This is actually a response to the PREVIOUS post! lol

brian3 13-09-2010 09:52 PM

It all started with Cannibal Holocaust from 1979. A film crew go missing in the jungle making a documentary about cannibals. The first half of the movie is a guy going in to find the footage. The second half is them watching the footage.

fingers 13-09-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3789288)
It all started with Cannibal Holocaust from 1979. A film crew go missing in the jungle making a documentary about cannibals. The first half of the movie is a guy going in to find the footage. The second half is them watching the footage.

OMG, shades of Blair Witch!:hugesmile:

Mystic Mock 13-09-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 3785676)
I only know of Cloverfield...and I liked that.

apprently rec is meant to be good aswell,but i aint seen it.

fingers 13-09-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3789456)
apprently rec is meant to be good aswell,but i aint seen it.

I'll let you know!

IheartBB 14-09-2010 01:01 PM

Ah, Blair Witch. The original and still the best.

Scarlett. 14-09-2010 01:08 PM

It's good when its used properly (like to indicate someone watching, or like when something secretive is happening) but when it's just used willy nilly it's dumb

IheartBB 14-09-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brian3 (Post 3789288)
It all started with Cannibal Holocaust from 1979. A film crew go missing in the jungle making a documentary about cannibals. The first half of the movie is a guy going in to find the footage. The second half is them watching the footage.

Oh damn I forgot about Cannibal Holocaust. Man, that film was waaay before its time. Still the most shocking film I've seen even to this day - which speaks volumes considering its 30 years old.

Photon 15-09-2010 06:20 PM

It can be used incredibly well in certain situations, but very poorly in others. I find that the latter is mostly a case where shaky camera movements were entirely unnecessary.

A good example is the Battlestar Galactica episode "The Captain's Hand." The episode is very tense, stressful, and filled with action that is not in the good guys favor. The Battlestar is being pounded by tactical nukes from multiple enemy warships over and over. Shaky cam makes sense and benefits the overall intensity of the situation incredibly well.

However, it took them a while to really nail the use of this technique. For much of the series prior to this episode, shaky cam had been employed in scenes where it just became excessively frustrating, primarily because it made no sense.

fingers 15-09-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Photon (Post 3792228)
It can be used incredibly well in certain situations, but very poorly in others. I find that the latter is mostly a case where shaky camera movements were entirely unnecessary.

A good example is the Battlestar Galactica episode "The Captain's Hand." The episode is very tense, stressful, and filled with action that is not in the good guys favor. The Battlestar is being pounded by tactical nukes from multiple enemy warships over and over. Shaky cam makes sense and benefits the overall intensity of the situation incredibly well.

However, it took them a while to really nail the use of this technique. For much of the series prior to this episode, shaky cam had been employed in scenes where it just became excessively frustrating, primarily because it made no sense.

Well put!!:wavey:

Omen 15-09-2010 09:19 PM

Watched The Bourne Ultimatum last night. It's full of shakey cam. Very effective with car crashes/chases, but not so good with fighting.

fingers 15-09-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Omen (Post 3792666)
Watched The Bourne Ultimatum last night. It's full of shakey cam. Very effective with car crashes/chases, but not so good with fighting.

My point, entirely, It works with some scenes but to just use it for the whole film is pointless, lazy and stupid.


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