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Captain.Remy 13-09-2010 05:26 PM

Tonight's hot debate: full-body scanners in airports.
 
Many airports are now using full-body scanners. How do you feel about going through a scanner that can actually see through your clothes ?

Discuss.

InOne 13-09-2010 05:29 PM

If it stops some idiot blowing people up then I don't see a problem with it.

Ramsay 13-09-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3788381)
If it stops some idiot blowing people up then I don't see a problem with it.

yeah i agree with this

Lee. 13-09-2010 05:32 PM

If it makes air travel safer then I couldn't care less if the airport folk get a look at me doos!

Chels 13-09-2010 05:34 PM

What Joe said.

I'm not shy anyway xD joke!

Jords 13-09-2010 05:37 PM

I think Id feel a bit uncomfortable but it would soon pass after a few mins when you realise everybody around ya is getting it done.

LOL if somebody had a hard on whilst walking through xD

GypsyGoth 13-09-2010 05:38 PM

I think it's a bit crepy but I understand the need for them.

arista 13-09-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3788374)
Many airports are now using full-body scanners. How do you feel about going through a scanner that can actually see through your clothes ?

Discuss.


Hot Debate - you are having a Laugh.


Old Debate.


Everyone , English Folks that is,
have no problem with them.


Case Closed

arista 13-09-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 3788407)
I think it's a bit crepy but I understand the need for them.


Its to stop You getting Bombed and Killed on a Plane. It is Common Sense.

I think you need to think about this.

Lee. 13-09-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3788406)
I think Id feel a bit uncomfortable but it would soon pass after a few mins when you realise everybody around ya is getting it done.

LOL if somebody had a hard on whilst walking through xD

More worrying if the x-ray guy has one :laugh:

arista 13-09-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 3788406)
I think Id feel a bit uncomfortable but it would soon pass after a few mins when you realise everybody around ya is getting it done.

LOL if somebody had a hard on whilst walking through xD



Nothing Wrong with a Hard On.

arista 13-09-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3788415)
More worrying if the x-ray guy has one :laugh:


No She will Not.

Chels 13-09-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3788415)
More worrying if the x-ray guy has one :laugh:

Lmfao :laugh:

MarkWaldorf 13-09-2010 05:46 PM

I don't think it's even 'i'm too shy to do it', it's actually a really big invasion of a person's privacy. But then again, it'll always cop down to those who are confident enough and those who are too insecure. Passengers have a choice, right?

Captain.Remy 13-09-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf (Post 3788426)
I don't think it's even 'i'm too shy to do it', it's actually a really big invasion of a person's privacy. But then again, it'll always cop down to those who are confident enough and those who are too insecure. Passengers have a choice, right?

What are you doing here ?:shocked:

Captain.Remy 13-09-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3788409)
Hot Debate - you are having a Laugh.


Old Debate.


Everyone , English Folks that is,
have no problem with them.


Case Closed

It's a hot debate if I want it to be. :hugesmile:

MarkWaldorf 13-09-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3788428)
What are you doing here ?:shocked:

i could sense a really hot debate brewing

Captain.Remy 13-09-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf (Post 3788437)
i could sense a really hot debate brewing

lmao. you've missed a good one about anal vs oral. Shaun was really active in this one. :laugh:

welcome back then. :hugesmile:

Angus 13-09-2010 05:52 PM

I've got no problem with it, but then again I remember travelling to Israel years ago, and being strip searched by female Israeli soldiers at customs, and I mean "searched" in every conceivable orifice! These days people who get on their high horses about the invasion of their privacy, need to get a grip and understand it HAS to be done - if anything I would say, it's about time.

Shasown 13-09-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 3788440)
lmao. you've missed a good one about anal vs oral. Shaun was really active in this one. :laugh:

welcome back then. :hugesmile:

Think I must have missed that one too, was he giving or receiving?

MTVN 13-09-2010 05:57 PM

Nah, I dont have a problem with it at all.

Those with nothing to hide, have nothing to worry about

arista 13-09-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf (Post 3788426)
I don't think it's even 'i'm too shy to do it', it's actually a really big invasion of a person's privacy. But then again, it'll always cop down to those who are confident enough and those who are too insecure. Passengers have a choice, right?



Choice?
What you want? a Firm man to Pat you Down
is that what you fancy.

Shasown 13-09-2010 06:01 PM

In case people havent seen them, here is the sort of image the operator will see of the person being scanned, hardly porn quality.

http://www.othernewsnetwork.com/_images/bodyscanner.jpg

Tonights one for the ladies:

http://epic.org/privacy/body_scanners/Body_Scan_Pic.jpg

Lee. 13-09-2010 06:03 PM

What's the black dot on the man's tummy and on his thigh?

arista 13-09-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3788501)
What's the black dot on the man's tummy and on his thigh?


Metal Clip belt

setanta 13-09-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3788458)
I've got no problem with it, but then again I remember travelling to Israel years ago, and being strip searched by female Israeli soldiers at customs, and I mean "searched" in every conceivable orifice! These days people who get on their high horses about the invasion of their privacy, need to get a grip and understand it HAS to be done - if anything I would say, it's about time.

Lol, sorry, but I'm going to get on my high horse here for a minute! I do think there's a privacy issue involved to be honest with you.

Ok, I can understand the practicality of it, but there's always the human element here to consider and how it could be actually abused in some ways.

Shasown 13-09-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3788485)
Choice?
What you want? a Firm man to Pat you Down
is that what you fancy.

Some airports will allow you to go for a body search by a member of the same sex. On religious or medical grounds etc. Though its not obligatory to offer it, and it is also dependant on having spare security personnel and facilities available for the search.

Some airports like Heathrow say you refuse to sybmit to a scan, you dont fly.

Shasown 13-09-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788513)
Lol, sorry, but I'm going to get on my high horse here for a minute! I do think there's a privacy issue involved to be honest with you.

Ok, I can understand the practicality of it, but there's always the human element here to consider and how it could be actually abused in some ways.

On the Rapiscan system that is being brought into most UK airports, the images generated were saved to the machineand had to be authorised to be deleted.

The system has been changed so that only scans that have been selected to be saved as evidence can be saved. Printouts have to be authorised by security managers, etc.

setanta 13-09-2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3788545)
On the Rapiscan system that is being brought into most UK airports, the images generated were saved to the machineand had to be authorised to be deleted.

The system has been changed so that only scans that have been selected to be saved as evidence can be saved. Printouts have to be authorised by security managers, etc.

I still think it's an invasion of privacy though Terry, and who knows what's stored or not?

And sure what about the danger of your gonads getting fried from all the X-rays? Nah, I'm against it, even though I'm totally aware that I'm being a fuddy duddy.

Callum 13-09-2010 06:17 PM

Would feel a bit weird walking through them, but if everyone's in the same boat then I'm not too bothered. There are loads of places where people could hide drugs, weapons etc. so like someone else posted, if it stops those people from boarding a plane then I'm okay with it.

Shasown 13-09-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788552)
I still think it's an invasion of privacy though Terry, and who knows what's stored or not?

And sure what about the danger of your gonads getting fried from all the X-rays? Nah, I'm against it, even though I know I'm totally aware that I'm being a fuddy duddy.

Its a balance between human rights and safety, though personally I think the right to be able to fly to a location and get off there safely without having being held hostage or blown up/shot en route kind of overrides privacy.

As for the sterility issue, thats minimal I would be more worried that frequent fliers who do get scanned would have a higher risk of cancers, also there is a known link between millimetre wave radiation and increased tumour development. (In other words any tumours have accelerated growth.)

Unless there is an increase terrorist threat at the moment UK airports do random scanning.

Angus 13-09-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788552)
I still think it's an invasion of privacy though Terry, and who knows what's stored or not?

And sure what about the danger of your gonads getting fried from all the X-rays? Nah, I'm against it, even though I'm totally aware that I'm being a fuddy duddy.



Lol - I feel more sorry for anyone who gets off on seeing x-rays of my tired old bod!:laugh2: For me I think it's a case of the end justifies the means.

Lee. 13-09-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3788571)
Lol - I feel more sorry for anyone who gets off on seeing x-rays of my tired old bod!:laugh2: For me I think it's a case of the end justifies the means.

Hi Angus :xyxwave:

Yeah, although I'm fine with it, I would NOT like to see whtat is on their screen as I walk through! hahah

setanta 13-09-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3788570)
Its a balance between human rights and safety, though personally I think the right to be able to fly to a location and get off there safely without having being held hostage or blown up/shot en route kind of overrides privacy.

As for the sterility issue, thats minimal I would be more worried that frequent fliers who do get scanned would have a higher risk of cancers, also there is a known link between millimetre wave radiation and increased tumour development. (In other words any tumours have accelerated growth.)

Unless there is an increase terrorist threat at the moment UK airports do random scanning.

Ok, increased terrorist threat and reacting to it is ok... I can deal with that when and if it happen, maybe! But like how often are planes hijacked nowadays? How often within the last few years?

I don't like playing about with radiation and stuff either. Dodgy dodgy.

setanta 13-09-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3788571)
Lol - I feel more sorry for anyone who gets off on seeing x-rays of my tired old bod!:laugh2: For me I think it's a case of the end justifies the means.

Speak for yourself. They'll be lining up for a peek at me. Heathrow will grind to a half. :hugesmile:

Nah, but you know what I mean, right? It's dodgy to me.

Shasown 13-09-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788596)
Ok, increased terrorist threat and reacting to it is ok... I can deal with that when and if it happen, maybe! But like how often are planes hijacked nowadays? How often within the last few years?

I don't like playing about with radiation and stuff either. Dodgy dodgy.

It was only Christmas Day last year that Omar whatshisface Matallab tried to blow up a passenger aircraft with a bomb in part strapped to his leg and detonated by injecting it with chemicals from a syringue.

Nigerian student flying from Amsterdam to the US

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...nd-flight.html

setanta 13-09-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3788626)
It was only Christmas Day last year that Omar whatshisface Matallab tried to blow up a passenger aircraft with a bomb in part strapped to his leg and detonated by injecting it with chemicals from a syringue.

Nigerian student flying from Amsterdam to the US

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...nd-flight.html

Fair play to your man for getting stuck in. A film director of all people.

I'm still not sure Terry, really. I think it could be abused.

Angus 13-09-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3788580)
Hi Angus :xyxwave:

Yeah, although I'm fine with it, I would NOT like to see whtat is on their screen as I walk through! hahah

Hi!
I will definitely keep my eyes averted till I'm through. I don't want to spoil my self delusion that I'm still young and gawjus:laugh2:

Angus 13-09-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3788606)
Speak for yourself. They'll be lining up for a peek at me. Heathrow will grind to a half. :hugesmile:

Nah, but you know what I mean, right? It's dodgy to me.

I see where you're coming from, but I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. I'm terrified of flying in any case, so anything that lessens the prospect of a mid air terrorist attack is fine by me. It seems that loss of privacy is a price we might increasingly have to pay in this present climate of fear and suspicion.

setanta 13-09-2010 06:44 PM

I just don't like where this could take us as a society, you know? The ramifications of it all. Climate of fear, invasion of civil liberties, barcoding, police state, dehumanization, you know what I'm saying?


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