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Mystic Mock 02-10-2010 08:06 PM

cher is ****e.
 
she was doing weird rap/singing:conf: i dont get how anybody on here can say shes good when she is probably the weakest vocalist out of the girls.

and i feel sorry for louis walsh

Jordan. 02-10-2010 08:07 PM

No.

Z 02-10-2010 08:09 PM

Agreed.

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:09 PM

Its not just about vocal technique. Its about artistry and individuality. Cher could make a very interesting pop star given the chance.

And she will be through. Her performances will be different to the norm. Which is good for the show.

Smithy 02-10-2010 08:10 PM

Yep, she's pretty shocking

Stacey. 02-10-2010 08:12 PM

Nope, she's great.

We heard what she can sing like in her audition and at bootcamp.

It wasn't her fault that she couldn't sing tonight.

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:14 PM

The judges are gonna base their decisions on ALL the evidence not just the 2 mins they performed in front of them. Cher was great in front of an audience and thats what its all about ultimately. So there!

Mystic Mock 02-10-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3822918)
Its not just about vocal technique. Its about artistry and individuality. Cher could make a very interesting pop star given the chance.

And she will be through. Her performances will be different to the norm. Which is good for the show.

she didnt sound anything like a pop star to me.

Z 02-10-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey.x (Post 3822929)
Nope, she's great.

We heard what she can sing like in her audition and at bootcamp.

It wasn't her fault that she couldn't sing tonight.

But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 3822938)
...if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!

well she already did.

And performing for a few can be much harder than for a large audience. Some performers need an audience to feed off.

Z 02-10-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3822946)
well she already did.

And performing for a few can be much harder than for a large audience. Some performers need an audience to feed off.

No, she didn't. The pressure of the live shows is far greater than that of the audition stages. She's gotten worse and has fast been exposed as a one trick pony in my opinion; it's an absolute travesty if she goes through.

Stacey. 02-10-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 3822938)
But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!

Yeah I like her uniqueness, and I think she'll be able to sing any song, but just make it different in her own way. She'll probably be a bit like Diana, with the love and hate thing.

Mystic Mock 02-10-2010 08:22 PM

i think rap fans will like cher.

GiRTh 02-10-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 3822938)
But I don't think she can sing at all well. People liked her initially because she gave a very different audition. I liked her for that reason. Her performance techniques (e.g. her gurning) are shocking, her voice is dire and if she can't sing any song she likes in front of a pianist, two judges and a camera crew - she won't cope with singing specific songs in front of an audience of the watching nation, four judges and a camera crew!

This.

She'll go thru and there will be a lot of sympathy for the girls turned down who gave a better performance at the judges house. Cher is too limited in her range and technique which Zippy hampers her individuality. Without the technique to back up the talent Cher simply does not have what it takes. Having said that I agree with Zippy in that Cher will give interesting performance that split the public opinion. She's already the most talked about contestant.

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:23 PM

She will be through and she will come up with some of the more unique performances in the show. When her voice is better and she has time to rehearse her songs she will be kickass. No doubt.

Gamu can p!ss off.

GiRTh 02-10-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3822960)
i think rap fans will like cher.

No they wont cuz she cant rap.

joeysteele 02-10-2010 08:24 PM

At the auditions she was really good, but you ahve to take the chances when given them.
She had throat problems but even allowing for that her nerves destroyed her,at the auditions you get to sing songs you know and problably enjoy singing, but the 'live' shows are like the judges houses, the acts have to sing songs given to them that they may not like or enjoy singing.

On the evidence of her performance for Cheryl, I think the same thing will happen at the 'live' shows, it would be unwise to risk her and add to her embarrassment by putting her through this year.
She should maybe come back next year.

I also feel really sorry for Louis,he has a mammoth task getting any chance of reaching past the first 5 weeks with what he's got.

BB_Eye 02-10-2010 08:25 PM

I like her, but I think she might be a bit too young for it this year.

joeysteele 02-10-2010 08:26 PM

zippy, has a point there though, some acts do need an audience to feed their confidence, that's true.

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3822937)
she didnt sound anything like a pop star to me.

Cher sounds very much like a contempoary pop star, actually.

Very Lily allen/Eliza doolittle etc

Stacey. 02-10-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3822960)
i think rap fans will like cher.

I don't like rap.

Zippy 02-10-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacey.x (Post 3822996)
I don't like rap.

Yo

Mystic Mock 02-10-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3822972)
No they wont cuz she cant rap.

well thats what she kind of did tonight.

Niamh. 02-10-2010 09:05 PM

She was brutal tonight, never liked her anyway but it will be a travesty If Cheryl puts her through.

Lee. 02-10-2010 09:18 PM

She's absolutely, ridiculously, utterly crap!!

I STILL cannot believe we are watching her at this stage of the competition!

GiRTh 02-10-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3823156)
She's absolutely, ridiculously, utterly crap!!

I STILL cannot believe we are watching her at this stage of the competition!

Agreed. If she goes thru then it proves the judges house stage is irrelevant and it proves Simon pick the final three and not Cheryl.

Lee. 02-10-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3823186)
Agreed. If she goes thru then it proves the judges house stage is irrelevant and it proves Simon pick the final three and not Cheryl.

Surely she won't go through?! Do you think she will? Every single person in her group is better!

I'm quite perturbed about this! :laugh:

GiRTh 02-10-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3823189)
Surely she won't go through?! Do you think she will? Every single person in her group is better!

I'm quite perturbed about this! :laugh:

Every spoiler has her going thru. They're hardly ever wrong.:spin:

Lee. 02-10-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3823202)
Every spoiler has her going thru. They're hardly ever wrong.

Shoosh! I've been avoiding spoilers....

But aaaaarrrgghh! You're joking!

That's ridiculous if she does!

Joelle. 02-10-2010 11:34 PM

I cant believe how many people are jumping on the Cher bandwagon!

Yes she had a good first audition but her performance at bootcamp was very average and at judges houses she was utter ****e! So she is actually getting worse each time she performs!
Yes she is different, but individuality alone does not make someone a good singer. They need the vocals to match, and Cher is simply not up to scratch!

People seriously need to open their eyes and see that there are much much much better singers in that catagory who perform CONSISTANTLY WELL such as rebecca, keri and treyc!

Lee. 02-10-2010 11:36 PM

Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :D

GiRTh 02-10-2010 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3823544)
Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :D

LOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.

Joelle. 02-10-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3823544)
Oh yeah, she's different alright!.. the others can sing, she can't! :D

The problem is that rapping and hip hop is favoured these days over actual singing because most people have lost all sense of musical taste. :blush:

bbfan1991 02-10-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3823551)
LOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.

Let them!:D, last year was all about Danyl and Jedward anyway plus Cher will probably have the Diana Vickers effect.. Diana is doing well, despite the detractors wishing her to fail so is having the last laugh:).

GiRTh 02-10-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbfan1991 (Post 3823563)
Let them!:D, last year was all about Danyl and Jedward anyway plus Cher will probably have the Diana Vickers effect.. Diana is doing well, despite the detractors wishing her to fail so is having the last laugh:).

Diana is different. She is good singer. I wasnt a fan but gave her credit for at least having some vocal chops.

Cher She seems like the kind of singer who can sing hooks, and does have a kind of hip hop style, but definitely not a LEAD vocalist.

Lee. 02-10-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3823551)
LOL Cant wait till tomorrow. If Cher goes thru there's gonna be a bit of a backlash.

Hahah.. I know!

SHe won't though! Will she? Nah, seriously, they mustn't put her through!!

Lee. 02-10-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan_Sheet (Post 3823557)
The problem is that rapping and hip hop is favoured these days over actual singing because most people have lost all sense of musical taste. :blush:

But she can't even rap! and she certainly isn't hip hop!! She's just crap! :nono:

GiRTh 02-10-2010 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3823585)
Hahah.. I know!

SHe won't though! Will she? Nah, seriously, they mustn't put her through!!

I can see it. I dont quite believe it but I wouldnt be surprised if she went thru. IF she does go thru it will the biggest injustice of the whole show and I hope people feel sorry for the other girls who put in good performance but were not the judges faves.

Stacey. 02-10-2010 11:55 PM

There will also be backlash if she doesn't make it through :nono:

Lee. 02-10-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3823626)
I can see it. I dont quite believe it but I wouldnt be surprised if she went thru. IF she does go thru it will the biggest injustice of the whole show and I hope people feel sorry for the other girls who put in good performance but were not the judges faves.

Yeah, I agree with you.. :mad:


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