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MarkWaldorf 05-10-2010 10:44 AM

Gamu axed over visa fears
 
vultures the lot of you! i told ya'll cheryl was innocent.

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Cheryl Cole was reportedly told not to pick X Factor's Gamu Nhengu as one of her three finalists due to fears that her visa may not be renewed.

Viewers of the ITV reality show have reacted furiously after Cole chose not to put Gamu through to the live shows, over 133,000 of whom have now joined a Facebook campaign.

"It was made clear Gamu shouldn't go through because of the visa," an insider told The Mirror. "Cheryl didn't have a say."

It is claimed that Cole was ordered not to choose the 18-year-old Zimbabwe-born singer over concerns that her visa would not be renewed, leading to her having to leave the country.

A production source said: "Cheryl didn't have much of a say in the matter. It was made clear that Gamu shouldn't be put through because they had issues with her, including the visa.

"A lot of people on the show think it's really unfair that Cheryl is taking all the flak as it was a group decision and she was just following orders."

They continued: "It's ridiculous the situation has got this far. It should have been knocked on the head much earlier on. Gamu should never have been put through to the Judges' Houses with question marks surrounding her visa.

"Everyone on the show has themselves to blame for not being straight from the beginning. Gamu not getting through has now become a bigger talking point than the 12 finalists."

An X Factor spokesman added: "Gamu's visa being processed was not the reason that she didn't make the final 12."

However, he apparently confirmed that the papers are still being renewed and therefore have not yet been processed.
Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/...isa-fears.html

Niamh. 05-10-2010 10:48 AM

I don't buy that, why wasn't that made clear then?? plus why did the spokesman say it wasn't over the visa that she wasn't picked? Trying to get Cheryl out of trouble I think.

MarkWaldorf 05-10-2010 10:51 AM

oh come on it's the x factor. they let that crazy 'mercy' woman through and only after weeks of bootcamp did they tell us she was insane.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 11:06 AM

well, I for one would like to hear more about this visa issue tbh maybe even a statement from Gamu confirming it.

joeysteele 05-10-2010 11:06 AM

She still didnt have to put through 2 girls who didnt bother singing at all though,for sure at the judges houses and also boot camp too, Treyc was miles better at the house and also at boot camp.
It has to be realised that Cheryl put 2 girls through to 'live' finals of a singing/performing show who neither sang or performed anything to her, one not at all and the other unable get to the 2nd verse of a song.
That was rediculous,she had other girls, not just Gamu anyway and the words 'may not' in the, her visa 'may' not be renewed statement, does not say for certain it will 'not' be.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3828474)
She still didnt have to put through 2 girls who didnt bother singing at all though,for sure at the judges houses and also boot camp too, Treyc was miles better at the house and also at boot camp.
It has to be realised that Cheryl put 2 girls through to 'live' finals of a singing/performing show who neither sang or performed anything to her, one not at all and the other unable get to the 2nd verse of a song.
That was rediculous,she had other girls, not just Gamu anyway and the words 'may not' in the, her visa 'may' not be renewed statement, does not say for certain it will 'not' be.

I agree Kerri as well I thought had a lovely voice and definitely had the "look" for X-factor, I would have had TreyC, Kerri and Gamu all before them 2

Kazanne 05-10-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828461)
I don't buy that, why wasn't that made clear then?? plus why did the spokesman say it wasn't over the visa that she wasn't picked? Trying to get Cheryl out of trouble I think.

I agree,Cheryl effed up big time and now the powers that be are desperately trying to put it right,hence the 'wild card' gimmick,they will bring Gamu back hoping it will all be forgotten,it annoys me that tabloids etc,think they can fool us all.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3828482)
I agree,Cheryl effed up big time and now the powers that be are desperately trying to put it right,hence the 'wild card' gimmick,they will bring Gamu back hoping it will all be forgotten,it annoys me that tabloids etc,think they can fool us all.

well apparently (don't read if you don't want to hear a potential spoiler)

Spoiler:

she doesn't even pick Gamu, she picks TreyC

Kazanne 05-10-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828485)
well apparently (don't read if you don't want to hear a potential spoiler)

Spoiler:

she doesn't even pick Gamu, she picks TreyC

Oh cripes,LOL:joker:

MargeryFan 05-10-2010 11:38 AM

She still put through katie, who fluffled up twice over 2 other really good singers.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MargeryFan (Post 3828490)
She still put through katie, who fluffled up twice over 2 other really good singers.

yeah, 3 other singers imo Gamu, TreyC and Kerri

MargeryFan 05-10-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828492)
yeah, 3 other singers imo Gamu, TreyC and Kerri

I agree but I was just speaking in response to this excuse that Gamu was a risk. There really is no excuse for putting through Katie, who has fluffed up on more than one occasion. Cher I can kind of understand as she had a sore throat but come on cheryl, don't take the piss love.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MargeryFan (Post 3828500)
I agree but I was just speaking in response to this excuse that Gamu was a risk. There really is no excuse for putting through Katie, who has fluffed up on more than one occasion. Cher I can kind of understand as she had a sore throat but come on cheryl, don't take the piss love.

yeah that's fair enough about Cher I suppose (eventhough she said no to trying again later) but personally I thought she was shocking everytime even when she "sang"

Kazanne 05-10-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf (Post 3828459)
vultures the lot of you! i told ya'll cheryl was innocent.



Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/...isa-fears.html

Not according to this.
ITV have rejected claims that X Factor Gamu Nhengu was kicked off the show because of worries over her immigration status.

As support builds for her to be re-instated, with a Facebook group called Gamu Should Have Got Through now boasting 130,000 members, Gamu is now reacquainting herself with reality back in Scotland.

Previously enjoying a taste of the glitzy X Factor lifestyle, Gamu has returned to the small flat she shares with her mother and two young brothers. While the acts that made it through to the final 12 are settling into their £3.5m mansion and getting makeovers.

Gamu's beautiful voice won her millions of viewer's hearts but Cheryl Cole told her: "It's just a question for me now as to whether you brought the star quality that I was looking for"

She was later told she would not be in Cheryl's final three acts.

It has been reported that Cole was influenced by fears that Gamu's visa will shortly run out and may not be renewed, but a spokeswoman for the ITV1 talent show said: "Gamu's visa being processed was not the reason that she didn't make the final 12."

The 18-year-old, who had dreams of helping her family escape their current tiny home, had those hopes shattered and was left inconsolable after Sunday night's rejection.

Speaking to the Mail Gamu's mother said the singer was "around but she doesn't know if she can speak to anyone".

ITV then called Gamu to let her know she could speak to reporters but she declined to do any interviews.

Gamu moved to the flat in Clackmannanshire, near Stirling, Scotland, with her mother Nokuthula and her two brothers Milton, 12, and Marty, 10, from Zimbabwe eight years ago.

There is one last chance for Gamu in the competition though – she may be brought back as Cheryl's 'wildcard', after it emerged that judges may be allowed to reintroduce an act that didn't make it through to the final 12.

Gamu has so far been gracious in defeat and has thanked her adopted country for giving her the chance to compete.
She said: "It would not have been possible... I regard myself as a Scottish contestant because this country has been so good to me.

"I have loads of great friends and loads of good people around me. It has been great."

At the weekend Gamu was note perfect, while her rival Katie Waissel appeared to forget the words to Charlie Chaplin's Smile. She then broke down in tears, before being allowed to start again.

setanta 05-10-2010 01:01 PM

Sounds like a damage limitation number from the PR group at the X Factor, but I'm not buying it. And sure why is Gamu getting all the focus anyway? She picked two girls who couldn't even sing on the day, that's the issue, while the rest of them sang very well and got shafted.

KG. 05-10-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3828544)
Sounds like a damage limitation number from the PR group at the X Factor, but I'm not buying it. And sure why is Gamu getting all the focus anyway? She picked two girls who couldn't even sing on the day, that's the issue, while the rest of them sang very well and got shafted.

Agreed. They can't have their precious Cheryl losing fans now can they.

BB_Eye 05-10-2010 01:11 PM

As I've said before, it's difficult to seperate fact from fiction when it comes to any tabloid human interest story. I'm certainly not convinced with Cheryl's "you're not old enough yet" excuse, which should have excluded Cher from getting through.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3828552)
As I've said before, it's difficult to seperate fact from fiction when it comes to any tabloid human interest story. I'm certainly not convinced with Cheryl's "you're not old enough yet" excuse, which should have excluded Cher from getting through.

Did she really say that to her?:shocked: after Cher-who is younger- had a melt down with the pressure??????:shocked:

BB_Eye 05-10-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828553)
Did she really say that to her?:shocked: after Cher-who is younger- had a melt down with the pressure??????:shocked:

Something along the lines of "it might be better if you came back in a year or two".

Smithy 05-10-2010 01:26 PM

She still put through Katie and Cher, they were the worst performers over all, clearly the malaria made her :crazy:

Niamh. 05-10-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye (Post 3828562)
Something along the lines of "it might be better if you came back in a year or two".

OMG, I missed that completely, I'm even more annoyed now!!:devil:

MissKittyFantastico 05-10-2010 01:39 PM

Pffft, load of rubbish, they're just trying to cover up for 'Queen Cheryl', although I doubt it was even her decision who went through anyway, doesn't Simon have the overall say in things? He's just trying to limit the backlash on his precious angel :rolleyes:

Niamh. 05-10-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico (Post 3828578)
Pffft, load of rubbish, they're just trying to cover up for 'Queen Cheryl', although I doubt it was even her decision who went through anyway, doesn't Simon have the overall say in things? He's just trying to limit the backlash on his precious angel :rolleyes:

well tbh I got the impression that Cheryl didn't like Katie at all, she rolled her eyes and called her a drama queen when she forgot her lines and started crying. Will.I.Am seemed less than impressed with her too, you'd have to wonder if Simon is doing a favour for that record company she's signed with or something.

MissKittyFantastico 05-10-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828582)
well tbh I got the impression that Cheryl didn't like Katie at all, she rolled her eyes and called her a drama queen when she forgot her lines and started crying. Will.I.Am seemed less than impressed with her too, you'd have to wonder if Simon is doing a favour for that record company she's signed with or something.

Yep I really didn't think she would put Katie through, even with having seen the spoilers, she didn't seem keen at all. I heard that the 'powers that be' got Katie out of her record contract so she could still take part in X Factor....why?? She should have been kicked out according to the rules! Defo something fishy going on.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico (Post 3828590)
Yep I really didn't think she would put Katie through, even with having seen the spoilers, she didn't seem keen at all. I heard that the 'powers that be' got Katie out of her record contract so she could still take part in X Factor....why?? She should have been kicked out according to the rules! Defo something fishy going on.

yep, she hasn't got a hope in hell of winning anyway so maybe she should have stayed in her contract! She must know someone in there who can pull strings I reckon.

MeMyselfAndI 05-10-2010 01:57 PM

gamu back..

MarkWaldorf 05-10-2010 02:27 PM

i remember visa rumours way before judges houses.

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/19733...s-in-jeopardy/

Mystic Mock 05-10-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf (Post 3828459)
vultures the lot of you! i told ya'll cheryl was innocent.



Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/...isa-fears.html

she still could have put her through.

Jack_ 05-10-2010 03:34 PM

At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3828676)
At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.

Yes she was!

And as for katie, quirky and interesting? I would say annoying and irritating.

Jack_ 05-10-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828683)
Yes she was!

She has a great voice but...no personality, really. Only her 'back story'.

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828683)
And as for katie, quirky and interesting? I would say annoying and irritating.

That's why she's a better choice than Gamu, because she divides opinion. She's like marmite - she creates a lot of discussion. At least she's not dull!

setanta 05-10-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3828676)
At the end of the day Cher and Katie are far, far more interesting. It's not all about the voice on the 'X Factor' - it's a combination of vocal ability, stage presence, personality, the 'look', how 'different' they are etc. Whilst Cher and Katie weren't the most vocally talented, they are certainly a damn sight more interesting than the likes of Keri [who?], that girl who got rejected for a second time and TreyC [whom I do like, but she isn't that interesting]. Cher is very different to what we've ever had on X Factor, and Katie is quirky and interesting. Both will be far more entertaining/worth watching that the others would've been. I like Gamu [on par with Rebecca], and also felt sorry for her, and wouldn't have minded if she got through...but this obsession with her is really OTT...she wasn't that great.

I hate this rubbish about being different and quirky. If they were so amazing they'd already have made a name for themselves and found an audience without the help of the X Factor. This is about finding raw, untapped talent - well, that was what I thought it was about anyway.

Dusty, Nina and Ella wouldn't stand a chance on this plastic, disposable and souless show.

Patrick 05-10-2010 04:03 PM

'13 Thousand joined a Facebook campaign'

Sad bastards.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3828711)
She has a great voice but...no personality, really. Only her 'back story'.



That's why she's a better choice than Gamu, because she divides opinion. She's like marmite - she creates a lot of discussion. At least she's not dull!

what do you mean no personality?? I thought she was adorable. I have my fingers crossed that katie is out first anyway.

Tom4784 05-10-2010 04:05 PM

Even if that's the case people will still blame Cheryl because people love to hate and find blame figures.

Jack_ 05-10-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3828715)
I hate this rubbish about being different and quirky. If they were so amazing they'd already have made a name for themselves and found an audience without the help of the X Factor. This is about finding raw, untapped talent - well, that was what I thought it was about anyway.

How would they? Cher's only 16 and Katie's only 24. It's not always easy...hence why X Factor is a platform for it.

At the end of the day the winner has to be commercially viable, just the same as it is right across the industry - acts like Keri who, admittedly, have good voices, but have no personality, no stage presence, nothing that stands out about them won't sell. At least with Cher and Katie you know they're going to be interesting performances, if Keri had've gone through it would've been snore, snore snore :sleep:

Jack_ 05-10-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3828722)
what do you mean no personality?? I thought she was adorable. I have my fingers crossed that katie is out first anyway.

Yes she was...but there was nothing that really stood out about her, was there? Only her upbringing [as I said, her 'back story].

I see Katie as another Diana Vickers type, to be honest. You'll either love her or you'll hate her - but that's why she deserves her spot, much more to her than some of the rejected girls.

setanta 05-10-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3828730)
How would they? Cher's only 16 and Katie's only 24. It's not always easy...hence why X Factor is a platform for it.

At the end of the day the winner has to be commercially viable, just the same as it is right across the industry - acts like Keri who, admittedly, have good voices, but have no personality, no stage presence, nothing that stands out about them won't sell. At least with Cher and Katie you know they're going to be interesting performances, if Keri had've gone through it would've been snore, snore snore :sleep:

Interesting as in car crash performances? Fair enough.

What you consider personality is what I call vapid, manipulative and false. I prefer a voice with genuine warmth and style... the rest can be worked on with the right mentor.

Niamh. 05-10-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3828737)
Yes she was...but there was nothing that really stood out about her, was there? Only her upbringing [as I said, her 'back story].

I see Katie as another Diana Vickers type, to be honest. You'll either love her or you'll hate her - but that's why she deserves her spot, much more to her than some of the rejected girls.

i see what you're saying about katie but what annoys me most of all is all the chances she's been given when she's messed up so much, something is just not right there. Diana did good auditions to earn her place in the show.

Stephanie 05-10-2010 04:24 PM

messing up 2 out of 3 auditions should not be tolerated imo.


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