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bbfan1991 21-11-2010 08:04 PM

Ooh Matt then
 
Said it was a joke when Konnie asked her question then looked at Wagner:shocked:, guess thats confirmed the rumours.

Mr XcX 21-11-2010 08:09 PM

Hate MATT!!

At least Cher is not moaning!!

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 21-11-2010 08:10 PM

who gives a **** what matt thinks. he's next for the chopping block if cheryl's and her suga daddys plan goes as planned

Niamh. 21-11-2010 08:12 PM

I could see why he may be annoyed though, Cher and Paije shouldn't have been bottom tbf

bbfan1991 21-11-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3927071)
I could see why he may be annoyed though, Cher and Paije shouldn't have been bottom tbf

He's entitled to his opinion but that should not be his concern, he's through and I was gutted that Cher got in the bottom 2 but she either had lowest votes or 2nd bottom on the night and relieved she stayed:).

King Gizzard 21-11-2010 08:17 PM

It was totally out of order, its not Wagners fault, he should be looking at louis instead. *****.

bbfan1991 21-11-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate (Post 3927108)
It was totally out of order, its not Wagners fault, he should be looking at louis instead. *****.

Wagner is popular here in the Midlands, our local paper will be buzzing:D.

Niamh. 21-11-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bbfan1991 (Post 3927087)
He's entitled to his opinion but that should not be his concern, he's through and I was gutted that Cher got in the bottom 2 but she either had lowest votes or 2nd bottom on the night and relieved she stayed:).

I know but I suppose he was upset at losing Paije, there seems to be no love lost between him and Wagner either by the looks of it!

Braden 21-11-2010 08:19 PM

I don't understand what's happened?

Niamh. 21-11-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 3927119)
I don't understand what's happened?

Matt implied that it was a Joke that Wagner still hasn't been in the bottom

Locke. 21-11-2010 08:21 PM

Matt is a good singer but as a person he is a tit.

Kazanne 21-11-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3927127)
Matt implied that it was a Joke that Wagner still hasn't been in the bottom

He's right,good on him for having the balls to say so as it could go against him,so shows he is not afraid to say what most of us think ,Wagner IS a joke.

GiRTh 21-11-2010 08:23 PM

Its not up to Matt to show such a bad attitude toward a fellow contestant. Whether he's right or not its not his place to voice such opinions. He needs to concentrate on his own performance cuz if he doesnt then he's gonna be out soon.

Kazanne 21-11-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 3927132)
Matt is a good singer but as a person he is a tit.

Why,because he dared give an opinion.

Zippy 21-11-2010 08:27 PM

He doesnt like Wagner anyways. Its obvious.

And I doubt its just because of him surviving each week. They have been living together. Its probably more personal.

fruit_cake 21-11-2010 08:28 PM

I don't like him at all anymore

Kazanne 21-11-2010 08:31 PM

Well we dont all HAVE to like Wagner,or is that the next campaign,lol,personally I think he is an idiot,he KNOWS he is not liked and not just by Matt,so why not show some dignity and bow out.

bbfan1991 21-11-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3927218)
Well we dont all HAVE to like Wagner,or is that the next campaign,lol,personally I think he is an idiot,he KNOWS he is not liked and not just by Matt,so why not show some dignity and bow out.

Why should he when people have voted for him to stay.. Matt is peed off that was clear but IMO he should have kept his mouth shut, it is tough not to however he is through and should be focusing on himself...

Zippy 21-11-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 3927148)
Its not up to Matt to show such a bad attitude toward a fellow contestant.

Yes it is!

he's his own man with his own opinions.

Niamh. 21-11-2010 08:37 PM

as a Matt fan I do have to say that it's not actually Wagners fault that he's still there, If he wants to blame someone it should be the people who voted for him!

fruit_cake 21-11-2010 08:39 PM

Matt obviously thinks he's untouchable

King Gizzard 21-11-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3927218)
Well we dont all HAVE to like Wagner,or is that the next campaign,lol,personally I think he is an idiot,he KNOWS he is not liked and not just by Matt,so why not show some dignity and bow out.

Because he is being VOTED FOR perhaps?

Fair enough you don't like Wagner. But its not his fault. Its Louis. Direct it his way.

Z 21-11-2010 08:41 PM

The only thing Matt's attitude is impacting upon is his own popularity; he's conceding defeat to Rebecca by mouthing off.

nanaimo 21-11-2010 08:42 PM

Louis put wagner in the show, its not vaugners fault, get over it

bbfan1991 21-11-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nanaimo (Post 3927290)
Louis put wagner in the show, its not vaugners fault, get over it

Despite Simon slagging off Wagner in public I bet behind close doors him and the producers are rubbing their hands with glee about the controversy Wagner is causing, like Jedward last year;).

Kazanne 21-11-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate (Post 3927277)
Because he is being VOTED FOR perhaps?

Fair enough you don't like Wagner. But its not his fault. Its Louis. Direct it his way.

He is not being voted for because he has the X Factor though is he?it's a campaign to get at Cheryl and Simon,So I can understand the contestants getting pissed with it,it is like you being in a competition,knowing you are good and someone who is not so good coming in and taking that chance away from you and lets face it they are ALL better than Wagner.

Colbert-Bump 22-11-2010 03:22 AM

Matt has a fantastic voice but his attitude stinks. I'll vote for whoever in the final with him.

Angus 22-11-2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3927071)
I could see why he may be annoyed though, Cher and Paije shouldn't have been bottom tbf

It's none of his business how the public vote - Wagner is there because he has been voted, to stay by the PUBLIC, for whatever reason - the contestants' views are irrelevant. If people think he is spoiling their favourite's chances direct blame where it lies, towards Cheryl and Simon who perversely kept Katie in when it was obvious the public don't rate here. IMO Cher and Katie do not deserve to be there at all and yet, surprise, surprise, there they still are, clinging on by their untalented fingernails.

Dr.Gonzo 22-11-2010 07:13 AM

To be fair on Matt, they did ask him. When pushed further, he showed respect by not naming names. Even though it's obvious to all who he was talking about. Why is it obvious to all? Because it's *******ing true.

Kazanne 22-11-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 3928773)
To be fair on Matt, they did ask him. When pushed further, he showed respect by not naming names. Even though it's obvious to all who he was talking about. Why is it obvious to all? Because it's *******ing true.

Exactly,that Konnie one was insisting he tell all.he was upset he lost his mate last week and now Paije,everyone seems scared to say what they think about Wagner,Why? it's a program aimed at giving opinions.

Niamh. 22-11-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by angus58 (Post 3928752)
It's none of his business how the public vote - Wagner is there because he has been voted, to stay by the PUBLIC, for whatever reason - the contestants' views are irrelevant. If people think he is spoiling their favourite's chances direct blame where it lies, towards Cheryl and Simon who perversely kept Katie in when it was obvious the public don't rate here. IMO Cher and Katie do not deserve to be there at all and yet, surprise, surprise, there they still are, clinging on by their untalented fingernails.

Yes, I agree that he's directing his anger and frustration at the wrong person. I did feel a bit sorry for Wagner tbh, he got the votes just the same as Matt did

Z 22-11-2010 11:50 AM

Matt's attitude is just harming his own popularity, it's not going to dent Wagner's in the slightest. Everyone on that show (except maybe Simon) seems to be under the impression that the more they sell bad press about Wagner, the more it will affect his popularity - this is not the case - the more they slag him off, the more popular he gets. Literally any swipe anyone makes at him is just going to guarantee him more votes; I know lots of people think it's purely a campaign to "wipe the smile off Simon's face", and I'm sure for most people it is, but from my point of view, this is so much more than that.

It's a message on many levels. It's a message to the producers that if they let Louis Walsh put through a bad joke of an act, the public are going to push the joke until it stops being funny. I'm sure they were hoping for a Jedward situation whereby Wagner and/or Diva Fever would reach the halfway point and then bow out to the serious talent, but that just simply isn't going to happen anymore with Wagner. It's a message that says normal people CAN actually go onto the X Factor nowadays and succeed, it's not simply a show for people who have been trying desperately to become famous and have been sent along by a talent agency. It's a message that the viewing public won't just be coerced into voting for whoever their biased editing dictates we should vote for; they were pushing Cher and Katie down our throats and it's blown up in their faces. Finally, it's a good way of uncovering the contestants for what they really are - Matt's been exposed as petulant and bitchy, so have Cheryl Cole, Dannii Minogue, whichever members of One Direction have been mouthing off about Wagner, Aiden... It completely takes away the characters that the X Factor have presented to us, false images, and here's why Wagner clinches my support - in spite of all of these awful people, he's still smiling, he's still diplomatic and he's still worth a thousand times of them all.

It astonishes me that people can be offended by Katie Waissel's awful treatment in the media yet Wagner getting a tough time of it from the media AND the judges, contestants et al is barely commented on? This guy has the patience of a saint. I really, honestly, want him to win. It means so much more than just "oh this will annoy Simon Cowell".

-breathes-

Stevep 22-11-2010 12:06 PM

I never took the 'joke' comment as a dig at Wagner but more so a dig at the 'sing offs' and the ridiculous judges choices after them i.e Voting off talented contestants i.e Aiden that clearly sung better in the sing offs in favour of people that appear in the tabloids more often.

Also did anyone hear simons comments on the xtra factor? Regarding talented acts leaving the competition he commented with something along the lines of 'Dont worry the best act will eventually win'. I took this as 'Ill fck about with numerous half decent contestants along the way to keep the show entertaining but the acts i presume to be the best will eventually win.

The show has become so contrived, if it continues this way i dont see it lasting as long as it could have done without the fixed judges voting.

_Seth 22-11-2010 12:53 PM

Matt was a ****ing sly, cowardly little ***** for just saying it's a joke and nothing more. He should have either S.T.F.U. or full on told Wagner to his face what his problem was. :rolleyes:

Dr.Gonzo 22-11-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip (Post 3929051)
Matt was a ****ing sly, cowardly little ***** for just saying it's a joke and nothing more. He should have either S.T.F.U. or full on told Wagner to his face what his problem was. :rolleyes:


If reports are true, he has told Wagner what the problem is. Unlike Cheryl, Matt has better taste to do it in private rather than on national TV.

Niamh. 22-11-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip (Post 3929051)
Matt was a ****ing sly, cowardly little ***** for just saying it's a joke and nothing more. He should have either S.T.F.U. or full on told Wagner to his face what his problem was. :rolleyes:

infairness though I don't think he even wanted to talk but Konnie dragged him out and pushed him on it. He was obviously still upset at having lost paije

Kate! 22-11-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 3928773)
To be fair on Matt, they did ask him. When pushed further, he showed respect by not naming names. Even though it's obvious to all who he was talking about. Why is it obvious to all? Because it's *******ing true.

this

spot on!!

bottom line.....X Factor is a TALENT contest. Louis is to blame. Every other contestant, including those who have already gone, has more talent in one finger than Waghead has in his whole body, Louis had a female singer who was actually good who he SHOULD have picked as his wildcard. Wagner gives me the creeps, he is a vile vile man.

_Seth 22-11-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 3929053)
If reports are true, he has told Wagner what the problem is. Unlike Cheryl, Matt has better taste to do it in private rather than on national TV.

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3929054)
infairness though I don't think he even wanted to talk but Konnie dragged him out and pushed him on it. He was obviously still upset at having lost paije

He shouldn't have said ANYTHING though on Xtra Factor.

Niamh. 22-11-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip (Post 3929064)
He shouldn't have said ANYTHING though on Xtra Factor.

No, he probably shouldn't have but like I said Konnie really pushed him, he never mentioned Wagners name but Konnie was the one who said Oh you're looking over that direction. Tbh what Cheryl did on live TV to Wagner was far worse

Dr.Gonzo 22-11-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip (Post 3929064)
He shouldn't have said ANYTHING though on Xtra Factor.


Why not? He's only saying what everyone's thinking? And he was asked. It's not like he jumped on the presenter, wrestled the mic from her, and then spewed filth about someone. He was asked a question and he answered it. If these questions aren't supposed to be answered, then they shouldn't be asked.


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