What a load of bollocks
 

Judges vote in the semi final...so basically, the judges get to pick the finalists? What a joke.

I'm guessing cher must have been bottom in the voting...instead of mary who was expected...

It should definately go to deadlock, but we all know it wont

I cant see it being deadlock...not with cher in the bottom.

If it does and cher was not actually bottom of the voting after all...then I will stop thinking this show is fixed. But its all so convenient :/

Yeah this is why actually.

Yep, welcome to the joke that is the XFactor.

So much for the public being in charge Simon eh.... so much for putting the competiton back into the public's hands.

Her fans were so few that Cher is in the bottom two.....

This. it's the only thing that will convince me too.

it will go deadlock i feel. Very much doubt Dannii will vote cher and of course louis will vote mary.

The show was always meant to be an hour though so it would have gone to a final showdown regardless?

cher was bottom of the votes and simon wants her in the final.

Its a fix now for sure

This lol..

and simon got dannii to save cher i see.

They even changed it from who you want to send home to who they want to save just so Cher wouldn't get sent home by any of them :laugh2: pathetic.

This show is such a ****ing fix it's unreal, Simon, Dannii and Cheryl need to go asap.

Imagine the scenario if Matt, Rebecca or One Direction ended up in the bottom 3 and had a chance to save themselves and you were a fan of them.. of course you would be in favour of this:p.

Simon's show. Simon's payroll. Simon's rules.

It's not altogether a surprise.

It's Simon's twist on 'giving the competion back to the public'.....

fiX-Factor.

Actually no I wouldnt.

I'm a Matt fan, and even if he had been in the bottom I would still think it was **** that yet again they have took the power away from the public.

The public have not had a say at all this year.

it would not surprise me at this point if they decided to have a singoff in the final.

They kinda said it would be a 'final sing off' before they did it. And there was time to do it, so I don't think they were just doing it because Cher was in the bottom two. She really isn't going to win, if I have to put up with OneDirection for one more week then you have to put up with Cher for one more! Lol :D

Controversy, Ratings and Cash!!! All these 4 acts are marketable and all the producers care about is making lots of money from them as possible...

Yep, pretty much this. Quite clear to anyone that Dannii aint too keen on Cher and did seem pretty keen on Mary so her vote does seem dodgy.

Although gotto admit, Cher did perform well in the sing off, and i actually preferred her performance. Did Danni perhaps have a change of heart after the sing off? Possibly, although i admit unlikely.

Cher sounds so kareoke nowadays.

They never said it was all down to the public vote, everyone just presumed :shrug:

So stupid, public was supposed to be in control now, just shows how much we aren't. Should have gone straight to the public vote. I still think Mary would have gone but it shouldn't be the judges decision now.

Simon kept Katie in all that time and now it's Cher, and he had the cheek to say people were trying to derail the show by keeping Wagner in

I didn't even vote yet I do feel a little cheated, its supposed to be down to the public to select who we want in the final, not the judges, I did want Mary to go based on last night but there's no way she should have went based on that sing-off

actually i heard it was all down to the public vote off jordan on here who is a cher fan,and i heard a few say it on digital spy.

...and they were just presuming

no it was confirmed,plus dermot didnt say it was a bottom two.

No it wasnt, have any proof of that?

that dermot didnt say it was a bottom two is one.

Oh fgs, that's only proof that noone knew for sure what it was going to be, he also didnt say it was going to be all down to the public did he

People were only going on presumptions; that is a fact. They were rational presumptions, but they were presumptions nontheless.

I totally agree with you Vicky, and also it wouldn't now surprise me at all if some contingency plan is not put in place to at least engineer things so that Cher doesn't become the first to leave next week, but really clearly she is up against people now who likely have consistently had better votes than her every week anyway. That will the be harder to put in place.

It stinks, really rotten too.

Everyone I know who was voting believed that they were voting for to save their favourites and whoever was last this week automatically went home, that is how it has always been on X Factor and no one, Dermot, Simon or any other said anything to point out that wouldn't be the case this week until he announced the sing off before he gave the results..

You are right jc/jf, there was no expectation of a sing off tonight, I never read a thread where anyone even on here expected a sing off, all the talk was of who would be last and go out.

Everyone I was watching it with tonight were amazed there was a sing off but most of them immediately said 'Chers in the bottom 2 and must have come last in the voting'.

It stinks and it stinks really rotten.3 of my Friends rang to query it on the phone ins, but surprise,(I think not) none of their calls were selected.

it's quite disgusting.

so very true

It's a ****in joke! They might as well bring Katie back so Simon gets the final 'he' really wants....:S

It's unprecedented to have a sing off in the semi final. I'm with everyone who reckons Cher was bottom of the voting. They've been vague and played around the rules a lot this year, to the point where they've continued to mess around with them to save face. I'd compare it to dancing around like a maniac alone in your room, someone walking in and you carrying on dancing despite your embarrassment at being caught red handed. This series has been dodgy.

Dodgy to say the least and never have the viewers been so badly advised as to what was going to happen week by week, almost as if they were just making their minds up what to do on the night as the final plan.

I absolutely agree with all you say and especially to the vagueness you point out from them too. With 4 judges, 2 presenters, and two 1 hour+ programmes on a Saturday and Sunday there can be no other reason for the lack of information or vagueness than that there is some sort of at least 'engineering' of the results process going on.

It really has an unsavoury taste to it this year does X Factor.

If Cher was bottom then why try and keep her? If she has the fewest public votes then clearly not that many people were viewing to watch her so losing her wouldnt have affected ratings. She isn't a massive media hype like Katie was but is getting publicity for the show but not as much as the "fix" is getting so surely keeping her longer is more damaging to the show. Besides she will only be out first next week if she was in the bottom 2 this week surely.

The same reason they kept Katie despite 4 times in the bottom 2 against anyone up against her, to please Cheryl Cole,the main and only reason, for some reason this year the whole X Factor has been altered to accomodate the errors of her and save her acts week by week.
Katie was at the very least guaranteed a place on the tour and Cher was Cheryls great choice, somehow they had to do all they could to get one or both to the final.

Its actually obvious to most people now something is dodgy here now, no one I have spoken to this morning believes that Cher wasn't last in the voting now and are stunned at a sing off in the semi final with no detailing that would happen the previous week or indeed when the phone lines opened on Staurday.

If you don't inform people then you are likely hiding something. The viewers knew all that was happening on previous X Factors, but not this series,no way.