Joanna Yeates - 32 year old man arrested
 

So this has been dominating the news, buit would she get this much attention if she wasn't good looking and in a decent job? The media is so fickle :bored:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12080254

Something the Parents said
'She Was Classy'

Who ever took her may have be drawn to that
and Why is the Boyfriend not checked out better.

How many times do we find out later
it was the partner


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...%2C_Police_Say


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Sad news for the Family.

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content...4/15870924.jpg

Her poor family, there is no good time to be told this news, but this is probably the worst time :sad:

The way the media are treating this, you'd think it was the first murder in a year :conf2:

That said, R.I.P. Terrible tragedy for the family.

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I'm not taking away anything from the fact she was murdered and it's sad for her family and that, but you can see the point i'm making.

We don't live in a kind world.

All the best wishes to her family. I can only imagine the intolerable grief they must be feeling.

Live on all UK media
Police Confirmed she was Strangled.

So now a Murder.

Yes.

So it's a sex crime?

I think it dominating the news has more to do with the fact that the 'news has been dominated with more trivial things such as snow, flight delays etc'.... and less to do with her levels of attractiveness and employments status: this puts all the moans about the weather, delays, inconveniences etc it has caused, into perspective.

sorry but I don't see the point you are making?

It's a particularly sensitive time of the year, and her family will never ever be able to celebrate Christmas/New Year with real joy - for the rest of their lives. THAT'S the point...... not that she wasn't ugly or unemployed.

The point I was making is clear, the media is fickle. Come on, you know this.

On this one, I totally disagree.

Think about it, especially with kids. They're worst for that. Everyone gets heartbroken with one case with a kid until the next one comes along.

Yeah, it's a terrible thing to happen but there are hundreds of murders in the UK every year, most of whom dont get the attention and the publicity that this case is getting

The worst thing in life is to lose a child to murder,I feel for them,must be a horrendous time for them.Are they certain she has been murdered though,I read something that gave indications she MIGHT just have died from the cold.

Okay then. So what do you expect the news to currently concentrate on then? The continuing weather, when the next snow fall is expected? It's news. As it is news when all the other murders are reported on.

And Scrooge..... if they are being fickle as you say in reporting on Joanna - are they also being fickle when it is someone elses child, but a child of a younger age, when they are reporting those types of murder?

Given the recent weather, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Though the fact that she left the house when her phone, bag, purse etc were all still there... does seem 'odd'.

It goes against nature for a parent to have to bury a child - and regardless of her age, social status etc: I don't think the media are over reporting on this. It's news, and at this time of year, it's more newsworthy -and as you say, it's still unsolved - that's what gives the media the interest in it (along with the time of year).

Oh look, a quick google search and what do I find - http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/87588...ar_Chichester/

"Residents in a sleepy village spoke of their shock after a man’s body was found with multiple stab wounds

Detectives were yesterday combing the isolated, rural location looking for clues after the death of a 45-year-old man.

The Romanian nursery worker, who was living and working at the plant nursery, in Second Avenue, Almodington, near Chichester, was stabbed several times late on Christmas Day"

He wont be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain, noone gives a sh*t about him. What makes Joanna Yates murder any more important than this guys?

It clearly has escaped your attention that the 'victim' is not the one who is giving themselves the publicity. It's the relatives and those involved who push the publicity..... if this man doesn't have relatives who want to push in the same way as Joanna's relatives (and friends) do.... it's hardly the media's fault.

They will respond to what is being given the biggest push.

Joanna had been reported missing since 17th December - therefore the media push was not for a murder, but on finding her - that was the news story. Unfortunately they have found her. Dead, therefore the news will expand on the original story.

You'll also note that the person 'murdered' in your link, has not yet been officially identified (according to the link you posted). Joanna's body has been identified.

You'll also note that a 53 year old man has been arrested in connection with the murder. Joanna's death is still under investigation.

Lots of differing factors. Lots of differing reasons & circumstances for a national paper not picking up the story.

As for your comments, "Nobody gives a sh!t about him".... maybe you want to go ask his relatives/family why they haven't contacted the press to see if that will help .... oh wait... the police already have someone they suspect as being responsible. Maybe that's a huge big clue - it's nothing to do with no one giving a damn, but more to do with 'WHO' murdered - which is what the police are focusing on at the moment with Joanna's case.

At the Press Meeting today
The Police were asked that Question
And they Do not know ,as yet?


The Body was Frozen
so they take there time on what they find.

You just keep missing the point. Don't get why you keep bringing all these other factors into it. You really think the media would have a 52 year old man as head line news rather than Joanna?

It's like with suicides, always a lovely young girl who was doing so well in life or something. You come up with all these other factors and dodge the actual point. The media is fickle and so are people in some cases. Everyone is guilty of it.

I'm not missing any point. I was addressing a particular post that MTVN made and towards a link that they posted - and all of what I said was relevant - not dodging the point as you have stated (ie: bringing other factors into it) - read MTVN's post and you will understand why I said what I did in my reply to them. I've addressed 'your point' several times over on this thread.

Sorry if you disagree, but that's the way life works. I disagree that the media are being fickle. Joanna's story has gone from a missing person hunt over several days to a finding the missing person dead ..... and now trying to establish whether it was murder or not. It's hardly a 'like for like' scenario is it.

That's a bit different from a 53 year old man being murdered, and within 1 day of his body being found, someone has actually been arrested in connection with being responsible.

Twist it all you like, but those are the facts of the matter. Those ARE the points. Joanna was missing since 17 December: the hunt for her went on since the 17 December, appeals to the public at her parents and local police requests: until they found her body yesterday: now the story has changed to establishing whether she was murdered or not.

Now which part of 'my points' is it that you aren't quite understanding? The story began as a missing person story - and has ended up in a possible murder investigation. The media have continued the story due to the changes that happened. It's not that difficult to understanad. (and I far preferred Scrooge!)

ps. the Romanian guy was reported as being 53. Not 52. ;)

Those are your points, but we'll have to agree to disagree lol We'll only end up going round in circles. I was just letting you know the way the media works, take it how you want...

I think I'm pretty much long enough in the tooth to know how the media works.........

But yes we will have to agree to disagree. :blush:

Didn't see this. I'm afraid they are the worst with Children, and so are people for getting outraged at one thing, and then next time it happens get outraged to the next one who dies horribly. It's a shame but that is how it works. Look up some of the cases.

Yeah, that's true I suppose, I was just trying to make the point that the media will elevate the importance of one particular murder case over another, something I dont like.

Yep, and people are quick enough to forget about them too.

I don't have to look up any cases. I think they are quite right to go 'heavy at it' when it comes to children. I do - because we know live in a society whereby there are so many sick bastards out there who do the most appalling things to very young and defenceless children: to their own flesh and blood, who torture,maim, and treat in the most goddawful way, causing untold suffering.

I personally prefer to know what sort of sick bastards are out there, what evil they dished out.. why? Because those responsible for it need to feel just a little what it's like to live in complete and utter fear and terror:- and I hope they live a long life suffering and being terrified of who is going to attack them next, who is goign to harm them next.

I'm in the 'eye for an eye' brigade. None of this 'forgiveness' crap for me, thanks very much. Forgiving doesn't bring back a young child's life - or anyone elses for that matter: but I'm homing in on the young child as that's what your aiming at .

That's it. Rant over.

Not being funny but that is a narrow minded way of thinking. And terrible things have always happened since the dawn of man, you make out stuff like this started happening 50 years ago or something :S

And miss 'eye for an eye' would you want a member of your family dead if they did something like that? You sound quite cold to me.

Oh I'm being deadly serious. Absolutely. I'm not cold - I'm simply of the mind that a Life for a Life is fair - call it all things being equal.

Seeing as this country doesn't allow the death penalty: I'll make do with those who do inflict such crimes on others, the fear of waking up every day - terrified of what's going to hit them next. If it was a family member: not good, but it wouldn't change my mind. I wouldn't like it but that's the way it goes: not that it would happen seeing that the Death Penalty is illegal here.

I have no problem with that at all and I sleep very well at night.

Where have I 'made out' that these things have not happened from the dawn of time? I didn't - stop making things up.

You're just one of those typical bull headed type people who don't really think about what they're saying and thinks their opinion is fact. A little nickname for your type is 'foamer'.

Anyway, we're going off topic.

I think I've had plenty of years behind me InOne to determine what I think and don't think before I say anything, had quite sometime behind me to help me come to my own decisions without even 'having to think about it' - and you can take it as 'red' - I mean what I say - no foaming at mouth required - just hard hitting.

Okay... back on topic whereby we agreed to disagree.:blush:

No.

Nada.

What
over this Murder of this 25 year old?

Yes because the correct punishment for killing someone is to umm.. kill someone right?

Clearly it's a matter of very divided opinion and I understand why some are so very much against the death penalty.

but in my book: I grudge every single penny of my hard earned salary - and the division in my tax contributions that keeps these people in prison, being fed, having a roof over their heads, being kept warm, clothed, educated, given access to a range of facilities that many people cannot afford - never needing to worry about paying bills, not having to worry if they have enough money to put food on the table, when there are decent hard working honest people who are out working long hard hours for minimum wages, doing an honest days work, with the worries of the world on their shoulders.

Like I say, I can understand why some feel it's barbaric, - but not in my book.

So the correct punishment is the life of riley at the tax payers' expense in HM hotel (sorry Prison), where the murderer often gets to serve only half their sentence?:rolleyes: If the crime was truly appalling, for example child rape and murder, the killer can expect to be released with the full integrated support of all the relevant authorities, offered a new home and a new identity and every care taken that his or her human rights are not violated in any way. God forbid that we should be outraged that such scum are allowed these privileges having deprived another human being of their life.:bored:

Oh here we go...