What do you class as selling out?
 

All sorts of artists are accused of it. Think it's mostly rappers and rock bands. It's sort of hard to define really. One example I can think of is Eminem *hides from Eoin* D:

But I've noticed you've been posting his older stuff lately anyway :tongue:

I don't like the phrase much, it's overused. I only really consider selling out to be if you change yourself completely in order to have mainstream appeal.

Don't actually think it's used as much these days. People ***** themselves all over anyway lol

If an artist or a group changes their style solely to fit in with the wants of the mainstream audience then I consider them a "sell out"

black eyed peas

Black Eyed Peas and the Sugababes.


Changing your image, style and sound in order to jump on a bandwagon for more success.

The phrase does get used a lot, people say Nickelback are sell outs and even though I do like their new stuff they have definitely changed their style

Surrendering your original sound or band composition to fit the requirements of a company's will (which is in turn shaped by public demand)

Two words

Bob Dylan

Seriously though I think it's when an artist who is clearly capable of better starts churning out a bunch of rubbish after a handful of good or even brilliant records at the beginning of their career. This is mostly to do with either fame going to the artist's head or an effort to appease mainstream simpletons. Although usually restricted to popular genres such as rock (Muse, Leonard Cohen, Radiohead) and hip hop (LL Cool J, Public Enemy, Q-Tip), one rare example of this in classical music would be Philip Glass.

sell out is really good :love:
leona is changing her music a bit with her 3rd album her sound. But not much, as she has always had songs like forgive me and outta my head and scene of the crime

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My thoughts entirely :joker:

This.

Metallica.
They're still good don't get me wrong, but they just don't make those masterpieces anymore, such as Fade to Black, or Master of Puppets, songs that everyone will remember.

^ doesnt mean they sold out just means they arent as good as they used to be
kings of leon and black eyed peas are prime examples they changed completely to fit in mainstream

Well they just became dull and didn't have a unique sound anymore, to me it's selling out. :P

The B.E.P are so meh now. The E.N.D was a half decent album imo but The Beginning has killed it now :bored:

both are so ****

and wooooow @ the originality of the album titles lulz

The E.N.D was awful :joker:

It had a few acceptable songs, but on the whole...

:shocked: I dont think he's sold out just he cant rap the way he used to, he doesnt know how. I mean if you listen now his voice has changed, his rapping style has changed, basically this is his second career now, the first one ended with Smack That. /rant

The only good songs were the singles, but then radio/tv raped them and they got overplayed and now I hate them as much as the **** songs :/

Eoin, a line and a half is not a rant.

Is. /rant

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He's always still as good. He just got addicted to meds, started happening after The Eminem Show (His last great album IMO) Gotta say Encore has some great songs on but as an album it's not great.

The real reason I think he sold out is cos of the people he worked with on his later albums. P!nk, Rihanna, Lil Wayne, I mean come on.

Green Day.

Thing is with Green Day, some people class them as sellouts with Dookie, some American Idiot. One of those bands where it's all perception

I liked Green Day years ago and I still like them now, changing a bit because it's a natural thing to do isn't selling out imo

Nah with Green Day in the early days it was different, it was do or die for them. After Dookie them Punk Community classes them as sellouts

they matured as a band and as people though. Don't forget that Billie Joe was 17 years of age when Greenday formed, obviously him and his music has changed massively since then

I have to agree. I like my Hip Hop gritty and hardcore. I'm not a fan of collaborations with popstars and songs with the rapper putting on some fake arabian accent so he can talk about smacking bitches arses and all that other filth around the time of Encore. But that's the way most Hip Hop's gone. I'm surprised the term Hip Pop has not entered use yet. Or Pop Hop or whatever. New Eminem I just find bland to be honest. Well done, you beat an addiction to every sleeping pill under the sun. I get it.

As for Green Day ... they didn't change their sound one bit. They are too shit for that. It's the same boring guitar chords arranged in slightly different orders only with more pretentious 'down with Bush, dudes!' lyrics. I can't listen to a band where every song sounds the exact same. They have spawned a small army of pretentious asshole teens like 30 Seconds To Mars have done too.