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Marc 30-12-2010 10:11 AM

Cher Lloyd "apparently" signs to Jay Z label
 
X Factor finalist Cher Lloyd has apparently signed a deal to join Jay-Z’s record label, according to a report.

Source: Cher Lloyd Signs up to Jay Z label

Angus 30-12-2010 10:51 AM

"According to reports" she has been signed and, if true, good news as hopefully she'll disappear to the States - I'm pretty sure, however, that Jay-Z would have bigger and better talent on his own doorstep!

Stacey. 30-12-2010 11:17 AM

:amazed:

Pyramid* 30-12-2010 11:21 AM

Ach good luck to her - she's been given the opportunity - let's see how she actually does - being given a recording contract and actually being successful are 2 entirely different things.

I thought this particular snippet was quite telling:-

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An insider told The Sun that Black Eyed Peas star Will.i.am missed out on the opportunity to sign-up the Malvern lass.
Given that he has been in such 'close' contact with her, that he's been so over-awed by her 'talent' and had direct contact with her, why or how he could 'miss out to sign her up' baffles me!! Makes you wonder why he wasn't prepared to put his money where his mouth is eh!

Perhaps more interested in impressing Cheryl ...... rather than being interested in Mini Me??? !!!


http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/21761...-record-label/

Locke. 30-12-2010 03:19 PM

Not believing it til Jay-Z or his label announce it, or Cher does. Too many reports saying different things the last couple of weeks

Smithy 30-12-2010 03:20 PM

"According to reports"

She's been signed by every label going these past few weeks

bbfan1991 30-12-2010 04:14 PM

I agree with Locke, better waiting for confirmation but I hope she hasn't signed to SyCo, they have absolutely no idea what to do with her and thats because she's a rap artist and not the usual pop one they go for.

Matt, Rebecca and One Direction are heading out to America soon to start recording material so good for them too:).

MrWong 30-12-2010 04:23 PM

What’s all this waffle about Will missing out on a deal to sign Cher? Isn’t she under contract with Syco? Therefore she won’t be able to sign with anyone, yet.

Why would anyone be baffled by this and then try and twist it to make out Will lost out on signing Cher cause he’s not arsed about her really and only wants to impress Cheryl? Talk about a massive leap :rolleyes:

Will’s put his money where his mouth is by producing a song with Cher. That’s the best he can do at this time with all the restrictions of her Syco contract.

The Jay Z story sounds like waffle too. “An insider said” Meh, doubtful.

bbfan1991 30-12-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4026051)
What’s all this waffle about Will missing out on a deal to sign Cher? Isn’t she under contract with Syco? Therefore she won’t be able to sign with anyone, yet.

Why would anyone be baffled by this and then try and twist it to make out Will lost out on signing Cher cause he’s not arsed about her really and only wants to impress Cheryl? Talk about a massive leap :rolleyes:

Will’s put his money where his mouth is by producing a song with Cher. That’s the best he can do at this time with all the restrictions of her Syco contract.

The Jay Z story sounds like waffle too. “An insider said” Meh, doubtful.

Louis Walsh managed to get Jedward out of their one year SyCo recording deal to sign for Universal Ireland, who are happy with they are doing in terms of profit, marketability etc so all it takes is some clever negotiations from both sides. Will.I.Am was meant to be signed up as Creative Director if Cher has signed up to SyCo because their expertise is in pop music mainly where as you would need someone with Rap/R&B experience to work with Cher Lloyd...

The papers are saying that the three other finalists have signed up to SyCo too, so far theres been no proof although there was a retweet of something concerning that on their Twitter page...

patsylimerick 30-12-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4025702)
Ach good luck to her - she's been given the opportunity - let's see how she actually does - being given a recording contract and actually being successful are 2 entirely different things.

I thought this particular snippet was quite telling:-



Given that he has been in such 'close' contact with her, that he's been so over-awed by her 'talent' and had direct contact with her, why or how he could 'miss out to sign her up' baffles me!! Makes you wonder why he wasn't prepared to put his money where his mouth is eh!

Perhaps more interested in impressing Cheryl ...... rather than being interested in Mini Me??? !!!


http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/21761...-record-label/

I watched most of the WillIAm Cher duet from behind a cushion. 'Twas dire! I think you're right, Will didn't seem remotely impressed by the quivering wreck that Cher was at judge's houses and was almost forced at gunpoint to say nice things about her by Cheron when they 'performed' on the lives. As for signing with JayZ, didn't Lady Sov sign with JayZ?........Who now?......

Jordan. 30-12-2010 07:29 PM

Hopefully this is true. I think its pretty much guaranteed she'll have some label.

http://i55.tinypic.com/nowle9.gif

James 30-12-2010 07:50 PM

Hmm, maybe best if this thread got back on the topic? :thumbs:

patsylimerick 30-12-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4026360)
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Her crime is talking cak rather than her not liking Cher.

Inferring Will doesn’t really like Cher and that's why he hasn’t signed her is utter sh!te and i’ll comment on it if i like.

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It' your opinion that it's ****e.....it happens to be mine that it's about the most perceptive thing on this thread. He's as dull as dishwater really, when you take off the ridiculous specs and daft clothes, and about as impressive without autotune as the Wizard of Oz without all the smoke and mirrors. I think Will's floating in Cheryl's orbit and knows well that a skinny white girl wouldn't last five minutes in front of hardcore music critics. But that's just my opinion.

Zippy 30-12-2010 08:43 PM

Why wouldn't Jay z sign her? She's created a huge global buzz recently(more than the other XF contestants combined) and has a huge potential fanbase...worldwide.

It would be stupid not to snatch her up, frankly.

Jordan. 30-12-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 4026379)
Hmm, maybe best if this thread got back on the topic? :thumbs:

bump :rolleyes:

MrWong 30-12-2010 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4026461)
It' your opinion that it's ****e.....it happens to be mine that it's about the most perceptive thing on this thread. He's as dull as dishwater really, when you take off the ridiculous specs and daft clothes, and about as impressive without autotune as the Wizard of Oz without all the smoke and mirrors. I think Will's floating in Cheryl's orbit and knows well that a skinny white girl wouldn't last five minutes in front of hardcore music critics. But that's just my opinion.


His skills are that of a producer, i couldn’t give a stuff what clothes or specs he wears.

So Will made a record with Cher because he doesn’t like her? Yes, that makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

James 30-12-2010 11:49 PM

I've deleted some posts from the thread.

Pyramid* 31-12-2010 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4026070)
I watched most of the WillIAm Cher duet from behind a cushion. 'Twas dire! I think you're right, Will didn't seem remotely impressed by the quivering wreck that Cher was at judge's houses and was almost forced at gunpoint to say nice things about her by Cheron when they 'performed' on the lives. As for signing with JayZ, didn't Lady Sov sign with JayZ?........Who now?......

Funny you should mention Lady Sov - in many ways, Cher reminds me of Lady Sov with the whole 'big woman,bad attitude' thing going on with very limited 'talent' - as you say Patsy, it didn't exactly lead to instant success - in fact - I recall when she went into CBB, very few people had heard of her. I do think that's the route Cher will be going down. I could of course be wrong, but I really don't think so. Time will tell eh!

patsylimerick 31-12-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4026478)
Why wouldn't Jay z sign her? She's created a huge global buzz recently(more than the other XF contestants combined) and has a huge potential fanbase...worldwide.

It would be stupid not to snatch her up, frankly.

But wasn't she (heavily) booed at a Tinie Tempah gig? I don't think that was necessary, by the way. She's very young and may learn a bit of cop on and humility as she gets older. Chevron didn't do her any favours making her out to be the second coming as she pranced about in harem pants, gurning and churning out bad 80s covers. She's never going to appeal to me but it seems to me like her target audience aren't that fond of her either?
Maybe it's the fixed maniacal expression - it certainly puts me off, she looks permanently on the verge of violence. I'm concerned for anyone who finds that an attractive look.

MrWong 31-12-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4026070)
. As for signing with JayZ, didn't Lady Sov sign with JayZ?........Who now?......

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4027089)
Funny you should mention Lady Sov - in many ways, Cher reminds me of Lady Sov with the whole 'big woman,bad attitude' thing going on with very limited 'talent' - as you say Patsy, it didn't exactly lead to instant success - in fact - I recall when she went into CBB, very few people had heard of her. I do think that's the route Cher will be going down. I could of course be wrong, but I really don't think so. Time will tell eh!



Who knows how she would have done in the States the poor girl suffered a dark period of depression and self harm to the point of attempting to take her own life.

It’s so easy to mock Lady Sov’s lack of success in the States hey. :sleep:

patsylimerick 31-12-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027216)
Who knows how she would have done in the States the poor girl suffered a dark period of depression and self harm to the point of attempting to take her own life.

It’s so easy to mock Lady Sov’s lack of success in the States hey. :sleep:

All I know of Lady Sov is what I saw in CBB. Eww. What a horrid little narcissistic brat. That's not mocking, that's my perception and if she's going to opt for a career in the limelight she's begging for people's views of her. By going on CBB she's practically on bended knee asking for approval. Acting like she did - she's not going to get much of it. I'm sad to hear she suffered with depression but, surely, if that's the case, the last place on earth she should be is in the limelight? Is there no-one close to her who can call her aside and have a word.......which brings us nicely back to Cher. I personally tend to blame Smug and Smugger for her attitude, but surely there's someone in her family/circle of friends, who had the balls to tell her she was coming across as an Asbo waiting to happen?

MrWong 31-12-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4027260)
All I know of Lady Sov is what I saw in CBB.

Probably best to get clued up then before spouting off.

patsylimerick 31-12-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027267)
Probably best to get clued up then before spouting off.

The thread is about Cher, the forum is about X Factor. I'm plenty 'clued up' on both. From the little I've heard, she sounds like an even more pained strangled cat than Cher does. So no, I don't think I'll be exposing my delicate eardrums to any more of that nonsense. Thanks, though.

InOne 31-12-2010 11:56 AM

Sov is an annoying little rat.

Pyramid* 31-12-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027216)
Who knows how she would have done in the States the poor girl suffered a dark period of depression and self harm to the point of attempting to take her own life.

It’s so easy to mock Lady Sov’s lack of success in the States hey. :sleep:

Awww....are we pulling on the old 'shes had a hard life' sob story as an excuse for not being successful in the States (not that she had any real big success in the UK either for that matter).

A hell of a lot of people have very hard lives, with very troubled, difficult times and much trauma - with or without depression and with or without suicide attempts - Having a sob story doesn't make a person talented - and that includes Sov. Sad? Of course it is. Affected her success - debatable - talent is either there or it isn't. I favour the latter.

However, the thread has digressed a little only on the premise that there was comparison to Sov who Jay Z had signed and had very limited success with - and, from what I read from Patsy's posts, Pasty was offering her thoughts that she felt that Cher signing with Jay Z did not guarantee Cher any success - Sov being used as an example.

Talent has to be the overriding factor at some stage and she has very limited talent -Cher (but feel free to throw Sov into that same bracket, it's all the same to me). I'm sure you won't agree, but hey: that's my opinion on the matter.

MrWong 31-12-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick (Post 4027305)
The thread is about Cher, the forum is about X Factor. I'm plenty 'clued up' on both. From the little I've heard, she sounds like an even more pained strangled cat than Cher does. So no, I don't think I'll be exposing my delicate eardrums to any more of that nonsense. Thanks, though.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. This certainly is a thread about Cher. :thumbs:

My comment was about you mocking Sov’s career in the states. Just giving a few facts. I wasn’t asking you to listen to her music either so not sure why that was mentioned :conf:

MrWong 31-12-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4027325)
Awww....are we pulling on the old 'shes had a hard life' sob story as an excuse for not being successful in the States (not that she had any real big success in the UK either for that matter).

A hell of a lot of people have very hard lives, with very troubled, difficult times and much trauma - with or without depression and with or without suicide attempts - Having a sob story doesn't make a person talented - and that includes Sov. Sad? Of course it is. Affected her success - debatable - talent is either there or it isn't. I favour the latter.

However, the thread has digressed a little only on the premise that there was comparison to Sov who Jay Z had signed and had very limited success with - and, from what I read from Patsy's posts, Pasty was offering her thoughts that she felt that Cher signing with Jay Z did not guarantee Cher any success - Sov being used as an example.


Who said anything about Sov having a hard life??? Only you it seems. I was just giving you a bit of background on why it all went tits-up for her in the US. So your little rant about others having a hard life is pointless.

Neither did i infer that her sob story made her talented. So not sure what you're on about there.

Pyramid* 31-12-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027453)
Who said anything about Sov having a hard life??? Only you it seems. I was just giving you a bit of background on why it all went tits-up for her in the US. So your little rant about others having a hard life is pointless.

Neither did i infer that her sob story made her talented. So not sure what you're on about there.

oh I didn't say she did, I was giving reasons that some people suffer from depression and resort to suicide attempts - and it's a red herring - talent is what matters . Read what is written - I said I'm not falling for any sob stories. I'm not ranting - I'm pointing out the very obvious to you. Sov didn't make it big in the States (or here for that matter) due to a serious lack of talent and nothing to do with her being depressed - which you appear to give consideration to in your comments a few posts down.

And as you said yourself in your last post - this thread is about Cher.

Might be an idea for everyone to stick to that.:thumbs:

MrWong 31-12-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4027458)
oh I didn't say she did, I was giving reasons that some people suffer from depression and resort to suicide attempts - and it's a red herring - talent is what matters . Read what is written - I said I'm not falling for any sob stories. I'm not ranting - I'm pointing out the very obvious to you. Sov didn't make it big in the States (or here for that matter) due to a serious lack of talent and nothing to do with her being depressed - which you appear to give consideration to in your comments a few posts down.

And as you said yourself in your last post - this thread is about Cher.

Might be an idea for everyone to stick to that.:thumbs:



You don't think depression can affect someones career??? :conf:

Ah ok then. As you were... :xyxwave:

Pyramid* 31-12-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027492)
You don't think depression can affect someones career??? :conf:

Ah ok then. As you were... :xyxwave:

I don't believe it can be used as an excuse for having no talent, without related talent, one can't have a career in the music industry.... that's what I think.

Does Cher have depression? :conf:

Is it affecting her 'career'? :conf:

if not, you seem quite determined to continue off topic despite your acknowledgment on a few posts ago that this thread is about Cher ..... ;)

MrWong 31-12-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4027504)
I don't believe it can be used as an excuse for having no talent, without related talent, one can't have a career in the music industry.... that's what I think.

Does Cher have depression? :conf:

Is it affecting her 'career'? :conf:

if not, you seem quite determined to continue off topic despite your acknowledgment on a few posts ago that this thread is about Cher ..... ;)


You seem determined to link the depression to having a lack of talent. :conf:

The depression ballsed up her career in the US. IF she was in a better state mentally who knows how well she could have done.

You think she has no talent, Jay Z thought she did. I’d say he’s more clued up than the average bod sat in front of their laptop posting on a forum. :whistle:

God knows why you’re asking if Cher has depression. Still, at least it’s kinda on topic.

Pyramid* 31-12-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4027540)
You seem determined to link the depression to having a lack of talent. :conf:

The depression ballsed up her career in the US. IF she was in a better state mentally who knows how well she could have done.

You think she has no talent, Jay Z thought she did. I’d say he’s more clued up than the average bod sat in front of their laptop posting on a forum. :whistle:

God knows why you’re asking if Cher has depression. Still, at least it’s kinda on topic.

If you want to continue discussing Sov, her lack of career her alleged talent (or lack of in some people's eyes) and her depression - might be an idea to start a new thread.....seeing as you still continue to keep this off topic.

Thread is about Cher.... just stating the obvious. ;)

MrWong 31-12-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4027555)
If you want to continue discussing Sov, her lack of career her alleged talent (or lack of in some people's eyes) and her depression - might be an idea to start a new thread.....seeing as you still continue to keep this off topic.

Thread is about Cher.... just stating the obvious. ;)




Yes it is. Well it was until you and Patsy started discussing Sov.

Anyway, still no confirmation of Jay Z signing Cher. I reckon it's just a load of hot air.


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