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Kerry 02-02-2011 10:00 PM

Cannabis - Whats The Harm?
 
Interesting Documentory

Views?

Mine - I don't mind what people choose to do. I don't agree with dealing but if people want to grow their own for personal use, go for it

Stu 02-02-2011 10:02 PM

Regardless of your own personal opinion on it, the law does more damage than the substance itself and that's a stone cold fact.

Man.

Ramsay 02-02-2011 10:02 PM

Ive gotten into this conversation hundreds and hundreds of times
cant be arsed now
i know ill just get into it:laugh:

Iceman 02-02-2011 10:03 PM

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w.../2kop6rjpg.gif

Joe. 02-02-2011 10:04 PM

is cannabis a drug?

Smithy 02-02-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4088760)

fail

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:04 PM

Haven't posted this for an argument. I'm currently watching the above documentory and am interested. I don't know enough about it myself and thought it would make a good topic

Smithy 02-02-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe. (Post 4088764)
is cannabis a drug?

fail[2]

Patrick 02-02-2011 10:05 PM

Legalise Drugs, End Of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe. (Post 4088764)
is cannabis a drug?

Oh Dear.

Patrick 02-02-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 4088758)
Ive gotten into this conversation hundreds and hundreds of times
cant be arsed now
i know ill just get into it:laugh:

I'm literally LOLing at how this thread is made after what I PMed you earlier, I'ma write back now btw, one sec..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4088757)
Regardless of your own personal opinion on it, the law does more damage than the substance itself and that's a stone cold fact.

Man.

This.

The fact it's illegal, makes people want to buy it even more.
If everyone's given a chance to take it if they want or to avoid it, then it's less likely to be took.

Same goes for Alcohol's age limit.

MTVN 02-02-2011 10:08 PM

It does very little harm in comparison to alcohol and tobacco, I say legalise it. I would be in favour of legalising all drugs really, regardless of how harmful they are, lets allow people to start making the decisions for themselves on things like this and stop having the government make it for them.

Joe. 02-02-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4088770)
Legalise Drugs, End Of.



Oh Dear.

I was being sarcastic :spin:

Ramsay 02-02-2011 10:09 PM

the fact tobacco and alchohol are legal and its a proven fact they are more harmful then weed just confuses me

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:10 PM

I actually think it'd be something I may turn to if I had certain medical conditions. I doubt I'd use it otherwise as I hate feeling out of control and dizzy so that first try I'd be terrified but if in enough pain or whatever I'd do it

Iceman 02-02-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4088766)
fail

usually theres a ****storm of a thread when this is brought up...maybe people have chilled out and had a spliff :evilgrin:

Shaun 02-02-2011 10:12 PM

we should just copy everything the Netherlands does. :spin2:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 02-02-2011 10:13 PM

weed made me go crazy :sad:

like actual hearing voices crazy :sad:

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:17 PM

Haha loving 'WeGrow' in America where you can just pop along and buy all the stuff to grow it :joker:

Patrick 02-02-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe. (Post 4088783)
I was being sarcastic :spin:

Er No, Just No, No you weren't. :bored:

You were either:

1) Proving to us that you probably don't go to some Posh Private School by showing that level of stupidity.

Or

2) You were trying to win a few of the lads over by acting stupid and making everyone LOL in some weird attempt to become TiBB's Answer to Jade Goody.

Stu 02-02-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4088801)
we should just copy everything the Netherlands does. :spin2:

That would be a bad idea. Because they have not got the balls to just fully legalize it the coffee shops are still supplied by illegal growers and what was once a nice cottage industry has now been hijacked by criminal gangs competing with violence to be the main suppliers in a lot of border towns.

Portulgal is a far better success story with regard to full drugs decriminalization.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry
Haha loving 'WeGrow' in America where you can just pop along and buy all the stuff to grow it :joker:

You can buy the stuff you need to grow it here too.

Patrick 02-02-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 4088788)
the fact tobacco and alchohol are legal and its a proven fact they are more harmful then weed just confuses me

This :bored:

Stu 02-02-2011 10:23 PM

http://www.torontohemp.com/hempuses.jpg

Beastie 02-02-2011 10:25 PM

If the people who use cannabis themselves are responsible and don't harm other people while using it then they can do what they want. I am all for cannabis drug dealing too. It's creating business and people need a job. I don't agree with the more harmful drugs like cocaine and ecstasy though!

Apparently the drug "poppers" is legal? That one is for gay men isn't it? For their bum holes to widen?

Stu 02-02-2011 10:26 PM


InOne 02-02-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 4088853)
If the people who use cannabis themselves are responsible and don't harm other people while using it then they can do what they want. I am all for cannabis drug dealing too. It's creating business and people need a job. I don't agree with the more harmful drugs like cocaine and ecstasy though!

Apparently the drug "poppers" is legal? That one is for gay men isn't it? For their bum holes to widen?

Yeah they sell poppers at joke shops

Beastie 02-02-2011 10:27 PM

I remember in Blue Banana they were selling Cannabis lollypops! :hugesmile: Not sure if they still do and I have been meaning to try a SPACE CAKE.

Stu 02-02-2011 10:28 PM

Can't wait for the Dail Heil brigade to get here with their grave misunderstandings and joie de vivre.

Iceman 02-02-2011 10:29 PM

been a smoker of it for about 10 years now, never had anything bad happen except get arrested for it and at that I got a JLO, but was fine cause my sister is my legal guardian so I didnt get in trouble.

Beastie 02-02-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4088780)
It does very little harm in comparison to alcohol and tobacco, I say legalise it. I would be in favour of legalising all drugs really, regardless of how harmful they are, lets allow people to start making the decisions for themselves on things like this and stop having the government make it for them.

Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

Stu 02-02-2011 10:34 PM

Legalize Cannabis. Decriminalize the rest. I have no problem with something like LSD which can be a wonderful experience when done correct but the average Joe is a little too thick to be viable to gain access to it over the counter down the high street.

Patrick 02-02-2011 10:35 PM

Addressing people like Karl, Iceman and Stu who I assume know what they're talking about when it comes to this:

What are the chances of Cannabis ever being legalized in the UK?
If it's been proven to be good for your bones and less of a threat than Booze and Cigarettes then, why are the government still so strict about it?

My mate had an argument with a teacher a few months back about it and he basically stated that it will be legalized but it's 'just a matter of time'.

What are the chances really?

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 4088865)
Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

If people want it bad enough, they'll get it.

I'm in two minds about the 'harder' stuff. But like I say, it doesn't really deter people, it being illegal. Tricky one

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:39 PM

Would like tougher laws on drug-driving though but that goes for drink driving too. Sick of people thinking it's fine to do either and just getting a slap on the wrist

Stu 02-02-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4088869)
Addressing people like Karl, Iceman and Stu who I assume know what they're talking about when it comes to this:

What are the chances of Cannabis ever being legalized in the UK?
If it's been proven to be good for your bones and less of a threat than Booze and Cigarettes then, why are the government still so strict about it?

My mate had an argument with a teacher a few months back about it and he basically stated that it will be legalized but it's 'just a matter of time'.

What are the chances really?

It is just a matter of time. That's the best answer I can give you. There are a multitude of reasons as to why it is still illegal. Ignorance, a lack of understanding about the substance, huge pressure from alcohol, tobacco and textile lobby groups, an unwillingness by the government to throw their hands up and admit that maybe they were wrong to ban it in the early part of the last century for reasons that had nothing whatsoever to do with your health ... the list goes on.

Big pharma companies don't want it because THC can alleviate a whole laundry list of medical ailemnts without side effects or constant pill popping. Vinters don't want it because god forbid people may drink less. Tobacco groups don't want it because it would render tobacco even more pointless and riddiculous than it already is.

Oh and it's very hard for the government to tax and make money off. It's a plant. Anyone can grow it.

Twilight 02-02-2011 10:41 PM

You already know what i think, i do not like the idea of any drugs.

Kerry 02-02-2011 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight (Post 4088882)
You already know what i think, i do not like the idea of any drugs.

What about legal ones? Paracetomol?

MTVN 02-02-2011 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 4088865)
Actually.. Now.. I think you are right. Legalise the lot! We are all taught "not" to take them. Therefore if someone takes the cocaine and ecstasy and dies then it's their fault. It will take the drugs to be legalised to actually send out a message of how harmful the products can be.

Yeah I think responsibility should be given to the individual to use whatever substance they so wish. I dont think it's the role of the government to protect people from themselves and if someone wants to compromise their health by using drugs then they can go ahead, it's their choice at the end of the day. How far and to what great an extent I would go with this view I'm not too sure, but, generally, I think people should have the freedom and the responsiblity to take drugs if that is what they want to do.

Maybe I'm being a bit unrealistic with that but that is my belief on the issue

Iceman 02-02-2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4088879)
It's a plant. Anyone can grow it.

Yeah i agree with this, it's the simplest of things, I grew it in my back shed for about a year and it wasnt hard at all...

One of the main pros I have for it is that you just relax when you smoke it and can just talk to people and feel chilled....

Ramsay 02-02-2011 10:45 PM

Well if that Prop passed in California there prob would be a way bigger chance of it legalising over here but it didnt..what was it like 54% said no? so close

Stu 02-02-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4088893)
Yeah i agree with this, it's the simplest of things, I grew it in my back shed for about a year and it wasnt hard at all...

One of the main pros I have for it is that you just relax when you smoke it and can just talk to people and feel chilled....

I think people who think it makes you feel 'out of control' and who have never taken it probably think it's like some trippy version of getting drunk. It's nothing like that really. You can still walk, talk and act completely fine. You can think fine if needs be like a switch you can flick on and off. It just gives you this limitless capacity for fascination. TV becomes too interesting for it's own good, food tastes just fucking brilliant, and you just can't help but giggle at how good this whole life business is. It's completely useless on it's own. It's not a drug you can use to paper over cracks or drown things out. It enhances and brings to the fore whatever your current mood and activity is.

Quote:

Well if that Prop passed in California there prob would be a way bigger chance of it legalising over here but it didnt..what was it like 54% said no? so close
It's still effectively decriminalized though. Cops won't fine you anymore for it. The prop would have just put it in writing. The vast, vast majority of no voters were ageing conservatives, unsurprisingly.



Check out these quotes from Harry J. Anslinger. The guy who got weed banned in America.

Plenty of lolz within.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes...y+j.+anslinger


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