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Locke. 15-03-2011 02:50 AM

David Haye vs Wladimir Klitschko
 
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WBA heavyweight champion David Haye has agreed terms to fight IBF/WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko on either June 25 or July 2 at a venue in Germany. The consensus top two heavyweights in the world finally struck a deal and signed contracts on Friday evening, setting the wheels in motion on the biggest boxing event of 2011.

After years of negotiating and posturing, Haye and Klitschko are now set to officially collide in the most important heavyweight showdown for nearly a decade and, in doing so, will unify three of the recognised world heavyweight belts.

Speaking of the latest twist in the saga, Haye said: “I always believed we’d one day fight and I’m glad we’ve cut through the nonsense and put together the most important fight in the heavyweight division.

“This is the match the boxing world has been calling for since I first decided to step into the heavyweight division, and I feel it is my destiny to fight and beat Wladimir Klitschko. We are the best two heavyweights in the world and it would have been a travesty for us to have never fought.

“This is an inevitable fight with an inevitable conclusion. Wladimir Klitschko is getting violently knocked out.”

“I have been chasing this fight since day one, because I know boxing styles and I know which styles I have success against,” said Haye. “Klitschko is ready-made for me. I eat tall, chinny Eastern European heavyweights for breakfast. Wladimir is a fighter that doesn’t like to fight, and he has admitted that fact in the past. Unfortunately for him, I am a fighter that loves nothing more than fighting.

“I have the heart of lion, whereas Wladimir has the heart of a hyena. He cries and squeals and slips into the wilderness at the first sign of danger. Wladimir has proven this over the years, and I’m certain he will want no part of this lion when it finally comes time to go to war.”

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Odds -

Klitschko to Win - 4/7
Haye to Win - 7/5

Probably going to be Haye's last ever fight because he wants to retire this year.

Novo 15-03-2011 03:03 AM

Haye is going to be destroyed.

Locke. 15-03-2011 03:31 AM

Haye is going to win

Legend killer 15-03-2011 10:32 AM

This fight i would say is 70-30 in Wlad's favour , Haye only has a chance becuz Wlad has one of the poorest chins in boxing history. It's a shame he is not figting Vlad who would have sent him to an early grave

Mr CW 01-06-2011 07:17 PM

Haye will knock him out. Wlad won't be able to handle the hayemakers speed. Can't wait for this fight. Finally there going to get it on. 4 weeks on saturday . :spin:

King Gizzard 01-06-2011 07:29 PM

Come on Wlad, Hayes an immature little prickhead and Wlads hilarious :joker:

Mr CW 01-06-2011 07:32 PM

lol. i have to admit wlad is quite funny but i want haye to ko him and i think he will :wavey:

Locke. 01-06-2011 07:36 PM

Not long now until Klitschko is lying on his back in the middle of the ring

InOne 01-06-2011 07:40 PM

Never really seen much of Wladmir, seems a pretty good fighter


King Gizzard 01-06-2011 08:22 PM



:joker: wlad totally owned him

Mr CW 11-06-2011 09:28 PM

3 WEEKS TO GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dance::spin:

Iceman 01-07-2011 01:56 AM

Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye
 

Who's your Money on?

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 01:56 AM

isn't there already a thread sonny jim

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 01:57 AM

Come on wlad

Iceman 01-07-2011 01:57 AM

:nono: I was hoping for some click-ins :tongue:

Iceman 01-07-2011 01:58 AM

point taken

-is afraid to merge-

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 01:59 AM

Nah it'll do it fine this time as the other ones older, the wrestling one was just because farhad's thread was actually older

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:03 AM

haha I know, im really just lazy :tongue:

haye is gonna suffer so much.

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 02:05 AM

He's got a chance, but I just don't like him. Never liked cocky fighters who give it all that. Plus Wlad is hilarious as i've mentioned before

If it was Vitali however, this fight would of already been over before it had started

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:06 AM

I dont think he stands a chance if I'm honest, just too much talk.

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:07 AM

also what time is the fight? wanna go pub and watch it

Kerry 01-07-2011 02:07 AM

Every boxer is an egotistical knobhead

From the little I know - I want Haye to win. But think unspellable man will

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 02:09 AM

Not all..Lennox wasnt bad, Manny doesn't talk his mouth off

King Gizzard 01-07-2011 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4344514)
also what time is the fight? wanna go pub and watch it

Think it starts about 10ish..that's what I read on twitter anyway

Probably depends on other fights

Kerry 01-07-2011 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 4344520)
Not all..Lennox wasnt bad, Manny doesn't talk his mouth off

OK - most

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 4344521)
Think it starts about 10ish..that's what I read on twitter anyway

Probably depends on other fights

Stupid Ireland, a nation of people who like their drink and pubs close at 12.30 :bored:

Kerry 01-07-2011 02:20 AM

Watch it online....

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:21 AM

I know but I wanted to have a few drinks :sad: looks like it'll be me and a litre of Captain morgans :D

Kerry 01-07-2011 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4344560)
I know but I wanted to have a few drinks :sad: looks like it'll be me and a litre of Captain morgans :D

Go to the pub, have a few, run home, watch the fight and have a few more :joker:

Iceman 01-07-2011 02:24 AM

a few could end up like the Hangover the rate ive been going lately :laugh:

Will sort something out im sure, gonna run im so tired, Night x

Kerry 01-07-2011 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 4344568)
a few could end up like the Hangover the rate ive been going lately :laugh:

Will sort something out im sure, gonna run im so tired, Night x

G'night :) x

ElProximo 01-07-2011 06:10 AM

I have not been following these two closely but as a senior boxing analyst I'm going to have a go at this:
*If you are a betting man please note this:

Yes. Klitschko should batter Haye for about 7 rounds before Haye is TKO'ed despite a good effort.
This would happen.

But wait!

There is a reason why Haye may very well score a stunning upset. Would you be surprised if I predicted Haye will not only demolish Wlad but knock him out and it will 'appear' to be done easily?
What??
Here is why: Haye is well onto Klitschko and its something all us experts have spotted for years:
A massive hole in Klitschkos style and defense that, if and when exploited, will demolish him.
Think of a tank with armour on three sides.
Think of a fence surrounding a building but there is a big open gate for deliveries.

Haye knows this and has spent the last two years solving it.
It actually comes to this:
Ring Geometry.
But in this case its something awkward. This might be why nobody drives their truck through his gates.
(but Haye is also correct that they do find predictable opponents/styles for Wlad).
So let me try and break it down in actual practice:

A successful Haye will approach and face Wlad as usual and play right along with the machine's script. Trade jabs. Throw straight right. Back up. rally at him.
Lull.
Lull the machine into its programming. This requires nothing of course. Fans boo a bit. Haye backs off.
OK.
Around midway through round 2 Haye will want to start driving around to the side of the building.
This sounds like basic ring geometry but the real secret here is that it requires some really fine finesse:
He will break fast down and to the left of Klitscho and (as if one move in itself) turn back up facing Wlad.
Going to call this a sharp 90 with the result being he is 'facing' the side of Klitschko and close too.
Angle and distance. Surprisingly close to Wlad. And again, almost as if part of 1 single 'move' all in itself Haye wants to be throwing a sort modified left hook - right combination,
AND<
this might be as key as anything but at that same time he does NOT wait to exchange but now bobs/sidesteps to the right of Wlad and catch him turning with a right-left.
back away. Straight approach again.
Break left sharp face to side - left right punch.
bob under and 'mirror' move on his left side (right left punch).

You get the idea.
But this is something which is basically 'simple ring geometry' only on paper. In fact, I have no doubt Haye 100% knows exactly how this 'side entrance' must be busted open,
but its that 'finesse' and clever way it needs to be done. He needs to be quick and clever and really get the right angle on the puzzle.

IF he can get the right angle and direction to open the safe? It's like Luke finding the opening on the Death Star - Klitscho gets blown up.
Dramatically.
Well really it will almost 'look easy' when you see it happen. Like Haye easily outboxed him.
Too tired to finish this so you get the idea.

Locke. 01-07-2011 10:38 AM

Haye will knock him out after about 5 rounds. You're right el proximo.

This will be the first thing I buy on box office since the wrestling when I was a kid. Not messing around with streams again after the Haye-Harrison fight, too much lagging on them because of how many people are doing the same.

I think the weigh in is live on Sky Sports News at 1pm today

Locke. 01-07-2011 11:00 AM

The odds are amazing on this fight

Haye to Win in Round 1 - 20/1
20/1 for him to Win in Rounds 2 up to 6 aswell
Haye to Win in Round 7 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 8 - 25/1
Haye to Win in Round 9 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 10 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 11 - 33/1
Haye to Win in Round 12 - 40/1

Klitschko to Win in Round 1 - 33/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 2 - 30/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 3 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 4 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 5 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 6 - 22/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 7 - 25/1 - through to Round 10
Klitschko to Win in Round 11 - 25/1
Klitschko to Win in Round 12 - 25/1

13/8 for Klitschko to get knocked down
8/11 for Haye to get knocked down


And:

David Haye will be well and truly flying the flag for in Germany - in England's brand new away strip.

The heavyweight world champion will be wearing Umbro's new blue shirt as he enters the ring to take on Wladimir Klitschko in Hamburg on Saturday.

It will be the first time the strip will be seen, before the England players have had the chance to wear it in for a match.

michael21 01-07-2011 11:01 AM

I will watch this big fight live on the net :hugesmile:

Locke. 01-07-2011 11:56 AM

Weigh in Live now

Novo 01-07-2011 12:24 PM

Klitschko in Round 3

Locke. 01-07-2011 12:30 PM

The UK fans took over then LOL.

Haye got cheered coming out, Klitschko booed, and they were singing "Your supposed to be at home" to Klitschko.

Haye will knock him out in about round 8

Stu 01-07-2011 12:40 PM

I hope Haye gets pummeled. He reminds me of Homer Simpson after bowling the 300. I'm sick of seeing him show up in stuff.

InOne 01-07-2011 12:47 PM

Hmmm, might have to ask if the pub I go in is showing it. Don't want to be messing about with dodgy streams like Locke said, too much of a big fight. If it starts around 10 though that's not too bad


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