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Shaun 04-09-2011 07:28 PM

Is there a difference between prostitutes and escorts?
 
Looking at it from a very simplistic perspective I'd say no. Which if anything just proves the illegality of prostitution to be somewhat absurd. Don't take money for sex but take money for dinner then sex. :crazy:

Tom4784 04-09-2011 07:31 PM

The difference is nothing but a loophole.

It's ridiculous really, they should just legalise it and then they can tax it as well as regulate it and make sure that the workers are safe.

Niamh. 04-09-2011 07:32 PM

I think sex isn't supposed to be involved in Escorting?

MB. 04-09-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4530328)
I think sex isn't supposed to be involved in Escorting?

Yes, the sex just happens.

Niamh. 04-09-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MB&U (Post 4530333)
Yes, the sex just happens.

:laugh:

arista 04-09-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4530323)
Looking at it from a very simplistic perspective I'd say no. Which if anything just proves the illegality of prostitution to be somewhat absurd. Don't take money for sex but take money for dinner then sex. :crazy:


No Shaun

a Hooker
is not a Escort.


Its like saying Poundland is M&S

Vicky. 04-09-2011 10:09 PM

Same thing really IMO. Yeah apparently sex isnt part of the deal with escorts, maybe a select few actually stick to that rule, but I know girls who have been 'high class escorts' and they always ****ed the guy for extra.

I dont really get why prostitution is illegal anyway. Its really not that much different to going out to a bar, allowing a guy to buy you some drinks, then going home with him :/

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 4530326)
The difference is nothing but a loophole.

It's ridiculous really, they should just legalise it and then they can tax it as well as regulate it and make sure that the workers are safe.

Not quite.

guys don't tend to take Escorts out for dinner, to functions etc and sex is not always a 'given' either.

Stu 04-09-2011 10:14 PM

At least from where I'm living 'escorts' is just a loophole. Driving down to the docks and getting a brasser is against the law here but you can get them online where they are dubbed as 'escorts' and it's certainly all about sex. I imagine she'd look at you pretty funny if you offered her up a bit of garlic bread and salmon before the youse got down to brass tacts.

I remember escorts.ie being some weird revelation to me years ago. I couldn't believe it was so easy and out there and legal whereas it becomes illegal as soon as you take it off the internet. Crazy.

It's super overpriced though. I recall it being like 250 quid to get dominated. Maybe for my birthday.

MTVN 04-09-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 4530873)
No Shaun

a Hooker
is not a Escort.


Its like saying Poundland is M&S

:joker:

Lee. 04-09-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530887)
At least from where I'm living 'escorts' is just a loophole. Driving down to the docks and getting a brasser is against the law here but you can get them online where they are dubbed as 'escorts' and it's certainly all about sex. I imagine she'd look at you pretty funny if you offered her up a bit of garlic bread and salmon before the youse got down to brass tacts.

I remember escorts.ie being some weird revelation to me years ago. I couldn't believe it was so easy and out there and legal whereas it becomes illegal as soon as you take it off the internet. Crazy.

It's super overpriced though. I recall it being like 250 quid to get dominated. Maybe for my birthday.

£250?? I'll do it for 20 quid and a Burger King!

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530887)
At least from where I'm living 'escorts' is just a loophole. Driving down to the docks and getting a brasser is against the law here but you can get them online where they are dubbed as 'escorts' and it's certainly all about sex. I imagine she'd look at you pretty funny if you offered her up a bit of garlic bread and salmon before the youse got down to brass tacts.

I remember escorts.ie being some weird revelation to me years ago. I couldn't believe it was so easy and out there and legal whereas it becomes illegal as soon as you take it off the internet. Crazy.

It's super overpriced though. I recall it being like 250 quid to get dominated. Maybe for my birthday.

I somehow don't see a businessman who needs/wants a female to accompany him to a business function, picking up some hardened hooker off a dockside and her quite making the grade, do you?

On the subject of prostitution - I have no idea why it's illegal. It's completely bizarre. Sex sells - it should be made legal, safe, controlled, monitored and taxed. Sometimes the Western World lives in the dark ages.

Stu 04-09-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 4530897)
£250?? I'll do it for 20 quid and a Burger King!

Make that 20 quid and you have a deal.

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530899)
I somehow don't see a businessman who needs/wants a female to accompany him to a business function, picking up some hardened hooker off a dockside and her quite making the grade, do you?

That's not what escorting is here. Like I said I'm speaking from a local perspective. Official escorting for lack of a better term has been reduced to dust and in it's place a prostitution industry using the term as a legal loophole.

Lee. 04-09-2011 10:28 PM

Tight arse!

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530902)

That's not what escorting is here. Like I said I'm speaking from a local perspective. Official escorting for lack of a better term has been reduced to dust and in it's place a prostitution industry using the term as a legal loophole.

And I too am speaking from a local perspective where I am, and with regards to the difference between escorts and prostitutes.

Vicky. 04-09-2011 10:32 PM

I doubt there is many men who will pay over the odds for someone to accompany them on a business meeting who will not expect something else too :/

Obviously there will be a few. But I would expect it is extremely rare.

Stu 04-09-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530924)
And I too am speaking from a local perspective where I am, and with regards to the difference between escorts and prostitutes.

So why bother pointing out to me the flaw in my thinking then when it was a remark on locality and rooted in fact? It would be like me quoting your original post and saying 'well actually that's not what escorting is I think'. It's obvious to me that this is another improvised response because you tried too quick to catch someone out again.

My head hurts. It just never ends does it. 'And it was my opinion too'. We know, yeah. Smashing stuff.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530928)
So why bother pointing out to me the flaw in my thinking then when it was a remark on locality and rooted in fact? It's obvious to me that this is another improvised response because you tried too quick to catch someone out again.

My head hurts. It just never ends does it. 'And it was my opinion too'. We know, yeah. Smashing stuff.

For the same reason that you bothered pointing it out to me again. Okay for you to do but not me? I see......

Stu 04-09-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530931)
For the same reason that you bothered pointing it out to me again. Okay for you to do but not me? I see......

Pointed what out to you? I didn't point anything out to you.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4530926)
I doubt there is many men who will pay over the odds for someone to accompany them on a business meeting who will not expect something else too :/

Obviously there will be a few. But I would expect it is extremely rare.

Doesn't negate that it still exists though.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530902)
Make that 20 quid and you have a deal.


That's not what escorting is here. Like I said I'm speaking from a local perspective. Official escorting for lack of a better term has been reduced to dust and in it's place a prostitution industry using the term as a legal loophole.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530933)
Pointed what out to you? I didn't point anything out to you.

:bored:

Vicky. 04-09-2011 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530935)
Doesn't negate that it still exists though.

Oh I know that :)

Its just...Im pretty sure escorts know, that while it doesnt quite say it on the tin, sex is very likely, if not certain, to be a part of their job.

Escort is just a more pleasant way of saying glorified prostitute with extra perks, such as dinner.

Stu 04-09-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530936)
:bored:

I defended my original post against your response out of necessity. I didn't take it upon myself to quote your original post and say 'well I can't imagine that's what escorting is lol'. That was your doing. I suppose I did have to point something out to you in the fact that I had to basically repeat my original post because in your mad hormonal dash to catch me out you forgot I was only speaking from my own experience at a local level.

So back to square one why bother pointing out to me the flaw in my thinking then when it was a remark on locality and rooted in fact? It would be like me quoting your original post and saying 'well actually that's not what escorting is I think'. It's obvious to me that this is another improvised response because you tried too quick to catch someone out again.

My head hurts. It just never ends does it. 'And it was my opinion too'. We know, yeah. Smashing stuff.

*sigh*

It's only through putting that post together that I remember your insane ability to create an argument from nothing. To hell with it. You are making me sound riddiculous and I'm giving in to you which is my fault.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4530938)
Oh I know that :)

Its just...Im pretty sure escorts know, that while it doesnt quite say it on the tin, sex is very likely, if not certain, to be a part of their job.

Escort is just a more pleasant way of saying glorified prostitute with extra perks, such as dinner.

In many cases yes. My point is that picking up some hooker from a dockside is not the same as arranging an intelligent, educated, well dressed woman who is and will be comfortable and able to act appropriately in certain social situations that require her to mix with others known to the person she is escorting.

Not quite the same deal and a quick wham, bam, thank you man and here's your £20, get out my car.

Vicky. 04-09-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530953)
In many cases yes. My point is that picking up some hooker from a dockside is not the same as arranging an intelligent, educated, well dressed woman who is and will be comfortable and able to act appropriately in certain social situations that require her to mix with others known to the person she is escorting.

Not quite the same deal and a quick wham, bam, thank you man and here's your £20, get out my car.

Oh yeah, its a different kinda scenario, no disputing that

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 4530949)
I defended my original post against your response out of necessity. I didn't take it upon myself to quote your original post and say 'well I can't imagine that's what escorting is lol'. That was your doing. I suppose I did have to point something out to you in the fact that I had to basically repeat my original post because in your mad hormonal dash to catch me out you forgot I was only speaking from my own experience at a local level.

So back to square one why bother pointing out to me the flaw in my thinking then when it was a remark on locality and rooted in fact? It would be like me quoting your original post and saying 'well actually that's not what escorting is I think'. It's obvious to me that this is another improvised response because you tried too quick to catch someone out again.

My head hurts. It just never ends does it. 'And it was my opinion too'. We know, yeah. Smashing stuff.

*sigh*

It's only through putting that post together that I remember your insane ability to create an argument from nothing. To hell with it. You are making me sound riddiculous and I'm giving in to you which is my fault.

You're the one who is arguing. Not I. I merely clarified my stance and to what I was referring to on the subject matter. I'm certainly not making you sound ridiculous. You're the master of your own fate as you readily agree to in your final sentence.

Vicky. 04-09-2011 10:46 PM

Can we keep on topic please :bored:

InOne 04-09-2011 10:50 PM

Well Escorts are seen as sociopathic business women and prostitues are seen as crack heads

Stu 04-09-2011 10:52 PM

A valid, worthwhile observation, Joe.

Livia 04-09-2011 10:52 PM

I think the only difference may be the price.

Omah 04-09-2011 10:54 PM

"Escorts" are a tiny part of the "prostitution problem"
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit...United_Kingdom

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In the United Kingdom, prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is not a crime, but a number of related activities, including soliciting in a public place, kerb crawling, owning a brothel, pimping and pandering, are crimes.

In England and Wales and in Northern Ireland it is an offence to pay for sex with a prostitute who has been “subjected to force” and this is a strict liability offence (clients can be prosecuted even if they didn’t know the prostitute was forced).

It is illegal to buy sex from a person younger than 18, although the age of consent for non-commercial sex is 16.

According to the present law, one prostitute may work from an indoor premises, but if there are two or more prostitutes the place is considered a brothel and it is an offence.

The total number of prostitutes is not known and is difficult to assess, but authorities and NGOs estimate that approximately 100,000 persons in the country are engaged in prostitution. The personal circumstances of prostitutes are not clear and are, as elsewhere, the subject of political controversy.

The sex trade takes different forms, such as prostitution practiced in massage parlors, saunas, private flats, street prostitution and escort prostitution. The enforcement of the anti-prostitution laws is very lax.

According to a 2009 study by TAMPEP, of all prostitutes in the UK, 41% were foreigners - however in London this percentage was 80%. The total number of migrant prostitutes was significantly lower than in other Western countries (such as Spain and Italy where the percentage of all migrant prostitutes was 90%). The migrant prostitutes came from: Central Europe 43%, Baltic 10%, Eastern Europe 7%, Balkan 4%, other EU countries 16%, Latin America 10%, Asia, 7%, Africa 2%, North America 1%. 35 different countries of origin were identified.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1X1fyhIjK

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Slavery is as much of a problem in the UK today as when it was abolished 'due to trafficking of women into prostitution'

The Centre for Social Justice will launch a review of slavery and human trafficking as estimates show at least 6,000 women have been trafficked into the UK and forced into prostitution.

:eek:

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4530972)
Well Escorts are seen as sociopathic business women and prostitues are seen as crack heads

Really. That is an incredibly blinkered view in my opinion.

There ar prostitutes are out there, because they have no core skills to fall back on, and legal basic wages are not enough for them to survive on and desperation turns them to having to sell their bodies to allow them to keep a roof over their heads, feed, clothe their children - and genearlly just exist.

Yes, there are a great many that have to resort to it to feed drug habits: but let's not tar all with the same brush.

It's for these very reasons that I believe that prostitution should be made legal.

InOne 04-09-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4530987)
Really. That is an incredibly blinkered view in my opinion.

There ar prostitutes are out there, because they have no core skills to fall back on, and legal basic wages are not enough for them to survive on and desperation turns them to having to sell their bodies to allow them to keep a roof over their heads, feed, clothe their children - and genearlly just exist.

Yes, there are a great many that have to resort to it to feed drug habits: but let's not tar all with the same brush.

It's for these very reasons that I believe that prostitution should be made legal.

I think my point still stand tbh

Escorts are cold hearted women making rich men fall in love with them so they get can all they can out of them

Prostitutes are women on the street chasing crack and whatever who will give it up for very little.

It's reality dear.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4531003)
I think my point still stand tbh

Escorts are cold hearted women making rich men fall in love with them so they get can all they can out of them

Prostitutes are women on the street chasing crack and whatever who will give it up for very little.

It's reality dear.

I didn't say your point didn't still stand. I said that I found it to be a very blinkered viewpoint. Escorts make rich men fall in love with them? PMSL. Life isn't like Pretty Woman!!

And you can quit right now with the patronising sarcastic, 'It's reality 'dear' comment. It's downright rude, as well as facetious and totally uncalled for.

Omah 04-09-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4531003)
I think my point still stand tbh

Escorts are cold hearted women making rich men fall in love with them so they get can all they can out of them

Prostitutes are women on the street chasing crack and whatever who will give it up for very little.

It's reality dear.

That view is extremely simplistic and very far from "reality" ..... :idc:

Lee. 04-09-2011 11:09 PM

I think in general the term "escort" is just a posher name for a ***** than "prostitute"

Having said that, there is such a thing as an actual escort, who is paid well for basically providing company and looking pretty for a night.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 4531020)
I think in general the term "escort" is just a posher name for a ***** than "prostitute"

Having said that, there is such a thing as an actual escort, who is paid well for basically providing company and looking pretty for a night.

Now to me a ***** is simply a female who puts it out like a dog on heat - minus the money taking.

BIB - yes indeed. There is such a think as an actual escort - offering the service you have described above.

InOne 04-09-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4531014)
I didn't say your point didn't still stand. I said that I found it to be a very blinkered viewpoint. Escorts make rich men fall in love with them? PMSL. Life isn't like Pretty Woman!!

And you can quit right now with the patronising sarcastic, 'It's reality 'dear' comment. It's downright rude, as well as facetious and totally uncalled for.

Well the power a cunning woman can have over a rich man is astounding. Women like that aren't on the street for a reason.

Pyramid* 04-09-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4531035)
Well the power a cunning woman can have over a rich man is astounding. Women like that aren't on the street for a reason.

True, and that reason is not soley down to the one that you believe it to be. That is the reality of the situation.

As for the power cunning women have over rich men? I think you'll find it's the riches that allow the men to buy the woman. Hugh Heffner ring a bell, for starters?

Zippy 04-09-2011 11:19 PM

Escort covers a wider ground. It's not specifically about paying for sex even though that may be offered as part of the service.

Prostitution is about paying for a sex act.

Better question; are pornstars prostitutes?


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