Erm...laws of physics, wrong?
 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/scientists-...230650760.html

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I'm not much good with science...physics especially, but wouldnt this (if it turns out to be right) mean a LOT of scientific research and that has been wrong?

I tried to read it but it turned into blah blah blah blah :laugh: But yeah proving Einstein wrong sounds pretty shocking

Yeah I was a bit like that. Once it gets into nanoseconds and that it loses me :laugh:

What's a nannysecond ?

:puzzled:

basically they found something that travels faster than the speed of light and the speed breaks the e=mc2 theory

Its just dramatised and it wont be that Einstein is wrong but they've just found an anomaly

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15034414

:nono:

OMG at the auto tags :laugh2:

Super Fast Sex

ahahhahahahhahhahahahh

So we might be able to time travel :amazed:

I so hope it's true - I would hate to think that the universe has no more secrets left to discover.

Heard Brian Cox on the Radio earlier, he said if this turns out to be true it will be the most significant discovery in over 100 years.

The universe will always have secrets for us to discover. :hugesmile:

If .....

I read somewhere that if you go back in time you create a Doppelganger of yourself in a separate reality, spontaneously born into existence, comprising all the stars, Planets, Black holes, Nebula, Matter, Energy, identical to your own Universe.

Whilst you however, experience a series of Windows Error Messages.:shocked:

I think it will be impossible to find out absolutely everything there is to know.

If this discovery enabled the ability of time travel, wouldnt we have already seen it from somebody in the future coming back to our present time and informing us that it is possible?

My brain hurts.

That's what UFO's are they don't contact us because we would hit them over the head and rob there technology. It's a very strong Theory to me anyway.

No, because they shape-shift to remain undetectable while they carry out the "tests" on us (the lesser mortals) ..... ;)

Would anyone believe them tho?
If some guy went around saying he was from the future and Einstein was full of **** everyone would just think hes messed up

I think a quick demonstration of how he got here might convince any doubters :hugesmile:

Lol that's true, I never thought of it that way, unless they're made to keep their silence somehow :suspect:

Build me a Tardis or GTFO.

If they could open a cheap packet of Digestives without a pare of scissors, i'd be convinced:spin:

Anyway i'm starting to wonder if David Ike and his Lizards in the White House theories weren't so Bonkers after all. If time travel is possible what else is!

Oh god no, not one of 'those' are you? :joker:

There are some really crazy people on youtube who are into the the reptillian theory, one of them has a welsh flag and thinks its 'their' flag because it has a dragon on it :joker:

Well you never see a Dragon and a Lizard in the same place and time do you. Now Then....:spin:

Seriously though i was just making a point about once you except as possible the impossible, a whole new world of strangeness opens up.

It annoyed me when they said on the news that these development might prove that Einstein was wrong. His ideas were ground-breaking and laid the building blocks that have led to the discoveries they're making now.

I think we already know Einstein is wrong. The two big theories in physics are Quantum Mechanics and Einstein's Theory of Relativity. And we know that these two theories are incompatable. There is supposed to be some other theory (The theory of everything) that unites them which is still undiscovered.

Einstein's theories, like all theories, are open to speculation and conjecture. A theory is not a definitive answer. If Einstein was alive today I'm sure he'd be more excited than anyone that new theories are overtaking his original ideas.

Problem is people believe theories as if they were fact and as such take themselves a long way up the garden path of the ridiculous.......A good theory is pounced on by scientific sheep and kept alive at all costs because they dare not shatter their own biased beliefs......

Another theory that should have been abandoned and shot down decades ago is the theory of the big bang creation of the universe. Its just a matter of time before they eventually see what a ridiculous load of cobblers that theory is also. In the mean time they will still keep inventing stuff like dark energy. Dark matter......None of which has a cats chance in hell of actually being present......Exept in their deluded imaginations desperate to make the maths work to keep the theory alive.......

Modern scientists need to start thinking out of the box,

You are absolutely correct.

Einstein even said his special theories of relativity were simply models to describe what was known at the time, his prediction of how long they would stand until disproven was way off the mark. They have stood a lot longer than he anticipated.

In fact the discovery by the swiss scientists doesnt disprove E=mc2 at all. Thats just hype for the media. If you throw in reference frames, where the observer(s) are located etc,(the fact that is no such thing as a static reference location and if thats the case there is no such thing as a start and finish point for measurement in either time or space) and a bit of quantum physics, which he hinted at when his works were published, then he is still bang on

I agree

apparently nothing existed 14 billion years ago, then for some unknown reason all the matter and energy in the entire universe was created in a huge majestic explosion and thus began the space time continuum
and for the first few seconds all this matter travelled at warp speeds until deciding on setting a speed limit of "light speed"
don't forget that this universe was created out of nothing and surrounding our universe is.....nothing
AND it turns out the rate of expansion of universe is actually accelerating too
how this possible? empty space itself is expanding :shocked:
so literally nothing itself is expanding into nothingness surrounding it

sounds good theory to me

this theory is brought to you courtesy of mr georges lemaitre.....a catholic priest

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZRZwHwA7l3...+facepalm1.jpg

It's amazing to me how little discussion there is about the actual article and the information contained.

Anyway, the CERN OPERA team wasn't saying they'd discovered FTL particles. They were actually reporting that they were having anomalous results. Neutrinos were hitting the target about 60ns faster than photons, which should actually be impossible. They reran the test 10,000~ times with a margin of error around 10ns. Mostly their report was to get other scientists to help them figure out what's going wrong. The OPERA team definitely does not trust these results at all.

The only "good" theory on neutrinos becoming FTL particles would rely on the Standard Model Extension, in which the oscillation that neutrinos undergo(this is how they start as electron neutrinos in the sun and end up as muon neutrinos by the time they reach Earth) would potentially allow them to violate Lorentz Symmetry, permitting FTL speeds. However, this is a theory that is purely speculative. Dozens of theories along these lines get thrown out because they're just absurd, not because physicists refuse to think out of the box.

This has now been attributed to faulty wiring

See here

..... and here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17139635

mmmmm ..... :idc:

Neutrinos clocked at light-speed in new Icarus test
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17364682

That's alright, then ..... :idc:

All they have to do to prove it is repeat the experiment?
In your face science :)