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elliebrew 19-01-2012 09:08 AM

I will always defend women in big brother
 
I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND WOMEN IN BIG BROTHER

Because they get so much **** on here its untrue

I did the same with Aisleyne, Rachel Rice, Sophie, Angel, Corin, Alex, Ulrika, Shilpa, Stephanie B and Ill do the same with Denise

All those housemates have had disgusting things written about them on here

Even Rachel Rice who was the kindest most genuine girl you could wanna see in there

It apalls me it really does

Roy Mars III 19-01-2012 09:10 AM

You are truly a white knight

Jake. 19-01-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 4888125)
I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND WOMEN IN BIG BROTHER

Because they get so much **** on here its untrue

I did the same with Aisleyne, Rachel Rice, Sophie, Angel, Corin, Alex, Ulrika, Shilpa, Stephanie B and Ill do the same with Denise

All those housemates have had disgusting things written about them on here

Even Rachel Rice who was the kindest most genuine girl you could wanna see in there

It apalls me it really does

I think Natalie has had it worst this series. A little gossiping now means that she cannot say a word without being told to 'shutup'. Ah well, she will still win.

Angus 19-01-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 4888125)
I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND WOMEN IN BIG BROTHER

Because they get so much **** on here its untrue

I did the same with Aisleyne, Rachel Rice, Sophie, Angel, Corin, Alex, Ulrika, Shilpa, Stephanie B and Ill do the same with Denise

All those housemates have had disgusting things written about them on here

Even Rachel Rice who was the kindest most genuine girl you could wanna see in there

It apalls me it really does


Really, because ALL women are ALWAYS in the right no matter what by virtue of their gender?:idc: Jeez, what an absolutely ridiculous statement to make, and the examples of "womanhood" you give aren't exactly helping your case. As far as I can see none of them needed you to "defend" them.

Saph 19-01-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 4888162)
Really, because ALL women are ALWAYS in the right no matter what by virtue of their gender?:idc: Jeez, what an absolutely ridiculous statement to make, and the examples of "womanhood" you give aren't exactly helping your case. As far as I can see none of them needed you to "defend" them.

ooh dearrry me theres no pleasing some..

hennessy 19-01-2012 09:40 AM

was all the terrible comments about them due to them being women or because of a personalty fault?
was it just men saying it?
why so serious?
I'm a guy and i'd never defend someone just on gender
are you going to defend Natasha?
good luck to you

vortex 19-01-2012 09:46 AM

We should just defend the housemates who are real no matter what their gender is.

Angus 19-01-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SaphLiike (Post 4888178)
ooh dearrry me theres no pleasing some..



Oooh dearie me, I had no idea the OP was trying to please me but has clearly failed miserably:laugh:

Jake Jacksonville 19-01-2012 10:38 AM

women r always right he cant stand up to any1 aparrt from denise gareth would kick his ass

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 19-01-2012 10:42 AM

cool

Livia 19-01-2012 10:46 AM

In this life you get back what you give out, whether or not you have a penis. Denise is a tactless irritant and has thoroughly deserved anything she received by her own actions. Stop making her into a victim because you shame women when you do that.

Angus 19-01-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Jacksonville (Post 4888250)
women r always right he cant stand up to any1 aparrt from denise gareth would kick his ass


I'm sure Gareth would like to do something to his ass. Is "kick" a euphemism?:idc:

Black Dagger 19-01-2012 11:07 AM

You'll always defend women... okay, so if Denise stabbed Michael in that throat would you condone that?

chuff me dizzy 19-01-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Jacksonville (Post 4888250)
women r always right he cant stand up to any1 aparrt from denise gareth would kick his ass

Big man Michael only abuses women, sign of a true coward

Livia 19-01-2012 11:44 AM

Poor little "victim" women can't stand up to the nasty, nasty man.

Scotty07 19-01-2012 11:46 AM

:idc:

smudgie 19-01-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4888393)
Big man Michael only abuses women, sign of a true coward



It is certainly looking that way. At first I put it down to cutural differences, but I think Michael is coming over as bully like now.

Roy Mars III 19-01-2012 11:49 AM

All the women of the world should be happy that they have you to defend them

Vicky. 19-01-2012 11:51 AM

People get **** on here based on their personality/actions...not their genitals.

Hmm...john james, govan, dave, jay, anton, kris, sree, darnell etc etc all had it quite bad on here...were they women in disguise?

chuff me dizzy 19-01-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 4888410)
It is certainly looking that way. At first I put it down to cutural differences, but I think Michael is coming over as bully like now.

Yes he is, last night sealed my opinion of him and looking on online polls and facebook he sealed his fate last night, let the good ,respectful people win

calyman 19-01-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 4888125)
I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND WOMEN IN BIG BROTHER

Because they get so much **** on here its untrue

I did the same with Aisleyne, Rachel Rice, Sophie, Angel, Corin, Alex, Ulrika, Shilpa, Stephanie B and Ill do the same with Denise

All those housemates have had disgusting things written about them on here

Even Rachel Rice who was the kindest most genuine girl you could wanna see in there

It apalls me it really does

I think the days of fragrant women coming over all faint and having the vapours, when nasty horrid men and of course some women who are nasty to other women, are long past. As a matter of interrest when women are nasty to each other, where do you stand then?

Really, we are talking about adult females, who actually don't need "protecting", they have shown they are more than capable of defending themselves, are accomplished in whichever career that defines them as a celebrity.

What is not needed is some old fashioned notion of paternal sexism.

Black Dagger 19-01-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4888421)
Yes he is, last night sealed my opinion of him and looking on online polls and facebook he sealed his fate last night, let the good ,respectful people win

Yes, because Natalie Cassidy is so respectful.

And online polls have him in first/second to survive tomorrow, shows how much support he's now not getting.

starry 19-01-2012 11:57 AM

Men like a bit of eye candy among the females, and if there's a reasonably intelligent strong laddish guy (a man's man) in there they'll probably support him.

Women like a man to support (good looking, nice enough, who has good relations with the women in there), but they also like one to hate I think. And they like to have one of the women to support (not too good looking) but they'll probably dislike, to an extent, all the others.

Livia 19-01-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888433)
Men like a bit of eye candy among the females, and if there's a reasonably intelligent strong laddish guy (a man's man) in there they'll probably support him.

Women like a man to support (good looking, nice enough, who has good relations with the women in there), but they also like one to hate I think. And they like to have one of the women to support (not too good looking) but they'll probably dislike, to an extent, all the others.

What?

Vicky. 19-01-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888433)
Men like a bit of eye candy among the females, and if there's a reasonably intelligent strong laddish guy (a man's man) in there they'll probably support him.

Women like a man to support (good looking, nice enough, who has good relations with the women in there), but they also like one to hate I think. And they like to have one of the women to support (not too good looking) but they'll probably dislike, to an extent, all the others.

Ahhh this old chestnut again.

And a crock of **** too.

Rachel rice was pretty, sophie reade can hardly be described as 'not too good looking'...kate lawler was pretty too. Women such as Makosi have made it very late on too...and makosi was stunning, and intelligent(which is usually the other accusation, women only like ugly stupid women)

Seriously people need to quit with the blanket generalizations tbh. Its really quite insulting.


Oh, and out of the male winners...I wouldnt say any were especially goodlooking, bar aaron last year either. Usually the goodlooking men they put in there are absolute arseholes.

hennessy 19-01-2012 12:13 PM

Everbody hates generalisations

starry 19-01-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4888446)
Ahhh this old chestnut again.

And a crock of **** too.

Rachel rice was pretty, sophie reade can hardly be described as 'not too good looking'...kate lawler was pretty too. Women such as Makosi have made it very late on too...and makosi was stunning, and intelligent(which is usually the other accusation, women only like ugly stupid women)

Seriously people need to quit with the blanket generalizations tbh. Its really quite insulting.


Oh, and out of the male winners...I wouldnt say any were especially goodlooking, bar aaron last year either. Usually the goodlooking men they put in there are absolute arseholes.

I've been through all this before with you for sure.

But Kate was a tomboy, Rachel was alright but no glamour model, Sophie WAS a glamour model however she became Dogface and her hair was a mess so she became more acceptable to people.

As for the looks of male winners that's a matter of opinion. But some definitely thought at least Pete and Anthony were attractive in some way. Looks help with both sexes in this show though as I said in my first remark. Generalisations aren't perfect of course and some will think differently than the rest, but I think there is some pattern.

BigBrotherfan4ever 19-01-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4888393)
Big man Michael only abuses women, sign of a true coward

Well said, absolutely agree.

Livia 19-01-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever (Post 4888732)
Well said, absolutely agree.

Or maybe he just doesn't have a problem with the men, whereas most of the women are bordering on the psychotic.

Vicky. 19-01-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888723)

But Kate was a tomboy, Rachel was alright but no glamour model, Sophie WAS a glamour model however she became Dogface and her hair was a mess so she became more acceptable to people.

Why is there always excuses made when a women wins? I'm genuinely curious.

When...say cameron won...no-one said 'oh its only because hes not a pretty boy'

I see you missed the makosi part...a few other examples of gorgeous girls getting far too. Sara in BB9 (though I know she was a late comer, but surely if this theory of yours held up she would have been out immediately)...though I guess the excuse to be made there is that she was 'bullied'. So lets have another...Aisleyne in BB7. Excuse...hmm...maybe the sympathy vote after she had to kick someone out. See where Im going with this?

Many good looking females do well in BB. Just when they do a few select people have to make excuses of why this is so.

starry 19-01-2012 02:39 PM

Many people seemed to hate Makosi. Did you see Aisleyne without makeup? Generally (I'm not saying all) the female audience don't want women who are too sexual on the show.

Vicky. 19-01-2012 02:40 PM

Another excuse...what a surprise :joker:

It doesnt matter if 'many people seemed to hate Makosi'...she got far and was liked (up until the pregnancy thing which WAS ridiculous :laugh: )

A lot of people hated Aaron...he won. A lot of people hated Jay, he came second...means nothing really.

starry 19-01-2012 02:46 PM

Hardly anyone truly likes any of the HMs now, it's how the show has gone it's all sarcasm and laughing at those in the house in some poor comedy. Though there has been a bit of drama at least in this CBB.

I did add to my last post, don't know if you saw that.

Vicky. 19-01-2012 02:49 PM

OK, from memory...heres women I would consider goodlooking (I know everyone has different tastes) who have done well on BB

Anna, Nush, Shell, Kate, Imogen, Sam+Amanda, Rachel, Sara, Sophie, Michelle, Makosi, Aisleyne,

I am sure there are more but those are all I can remember right now. But no doubt there will be some excuse made for each and every one of them, for why women didnt hate those women even though they were pretty. Of course all of them got some crap during their series'...but EVERY housemate has someone who dislikes them.

Vicky. 19-01-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888802)
Hardly anyone truly likes any of the HMs now, it's how the show has gone it's all sarcasm and laughing at those in the house in some poor comedy. Though there has been a bit of drama at least in this CBB.

I did add to my last post, don't know if you saw that.

OK well lets go back to when BB WAS quite relevant

bb5

LOADS of people hated Nadia...the forums were wild back then. And loads hated Jason. Came first and second respectively.

There has never been, nor will there ever be a housemate that does not have people who dislike them. So saying some people hated makosi doesnt really hold up.

Saph 19-01-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888723)
I've been through all this before with you for sure.

But Kate was a tomboy, Rachel was alright but no glamour model, Sophie WAS a glamour model however she became Dogface and her hair was a mess so she became more acceptable to people.

:laugh: :love:

Vicky. 19-01-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by starry (Post 4888788)
Generally (I'm not saying all) the female audience don't want women who are too sexual on the show.

(Didnt see the edit earlier :laugh: )

Or generally...people...not just women... vote according to personalities instead of looks/gender. And this just happens to mean a few pretty girls have gone quite early. So some people have to read into it :)

Mystic Mock 19-01-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 4888125)
I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND WOMEN IN BIG BROTHER

Because they get so much **** on here its untrue

I did the same with Aisleyne, Rachel Rice, Sophie, Angel, Corin, Alex, Ulrika, Shilpa, Stephanie B and Ill do the same with Denise

All those housemates have had disgusting things written about them on here

Even Rachel Rice who was the kindest most genuine girl you could wanna see in there

It apalls me it really does

They really do not go together Elliebrew.

Also Sophie deserved her hate aswell as she was a thief,fake and boring.

chuff me dizzy 19-01-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever (Post 4888732)
Well said, absolutely agree.

He bullies the women and then runs to corner anyone who will listen to him and back stabs to the men ,what a creep he is

thesheriff443 19-01-2012 08:11 PM

aaron was a good looking arshole!


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