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Glenn. 06-02-2012 10:41 PM

Do you like Chris Brown?
 
Just wondered what the forum thought about Chris Brown.

Do you like his music?

King Gizzard 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Shouldn't be still making it

Patrick 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Meh.

He's a legend though.

Locke. 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Don't like him as a person and his music is a bit hit and miss, but he is the most talented young R&B singer that is out at the minute

Smithy 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Nope

King Gizzard 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Yes. A real legend.

Glenn. 06-02-2012 10:42 PM

Poll added.

Brother Leon 06-02-2012 10:43 PM

Meh.


Beautiful People is decent though.


EDIT: He's actually been alot better after the Rihanna incident. Yeah, he's alright.

Glenn. 06-02-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 4937919)
Don't like him as a person and his music is a bit hit and miss, but he is the most talented young R&B singer that is out at the minute

Same.

The bloke is a douche most of the time, but I love his music.

Ramsay 06-02-2012 10:44 PM

How can you class him as a legend if you think he's 'meh'?

Callum 06-02-2012 10:44 PM

No, don't like him as a person and the only song I've ever liked of his is "Forever".

Smithy 06-02-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 4937927)
How can you class him as a legend if you think he's 'meh'?

Patrick hates rihanna :bored:

Glenn. 06-02-2012 10:45 PM

This is his new one


MTVN 06-02-2012 10:45 PM

Yeah, like his music anyway

Locke. 06-02-2012 10:47 PM

Still class, amazing he was only 16 at the time


Ninastar 06-02-2012 10:48 PM

No.

Glenn. 06-02-2012 10:50 PM

Majority don't like him. :joker:

Jords 06-02-2012 10:52 PM

His music is OK. Forever is still his best.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 4937929)
Patrick hates rihanna :bored:

Fooking disgusting. Disappointed in you here Paddy.

King Gizzard 06-02-2012 10:53 PM



Never gets old.

Mystic Mock 06-02-2012 11:15 PM

Anyone that beats up his girlfriend and works with Justin Bieber on a song I don't just dislike,I despise with a passion.

Jack_ 06-02-2012 11:26 PM

Personally? Well...I don't know him, but I don't agree with his actions in the past, so I'd probably say no.

Musically he's decent. In the last couple of years I've really liked a few of his songs.

Shaun 06-02-2012 11:43 PM

Musically awful. Seems like a dickhead as a person (storming out of interviews, trashing TV sets, the Rihanna thing). Has built a career off of poor Michael Jackson wannabe material. So no.

InOne 07-02-2012 01:12 AM

He's awful in every way, god knows how he still has number 1's

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 07-02-2012 01:16 AM

his nudes tho

Novo 07-02-2012 03:45 AM

With You was amazing

Shaun 07-02-2012 03:46 AM

-pretends to not like 'Forever'-

Ninastar 07-02-2012 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4938426)
-pretends to not like 'Forever'-

the wedding dance to that song has changed my views on that song

MeMyselfAndI 07-02-2012 06:49 AM

Yea, he was one of my favourite artists like 4 years ago & started to like him again last year

CharlieO 07-02-2012 06:50 AM

I do not.

InOne 14-02-2012 10:57 PM

Interesting read on Brown performing at the Grammys

Quote:

I’m sick and tired of people acting like it’s no big deal that Chris Brown will be performing at the Grammys.

I’m frustrated that the mainstream media is covering this story like it’s any comeback story, like an exiled prince’s return to a former glory, like this is another political timeline — as though some rich and powerful old white men in the music business have not just issued an enormous ‘****** you’ to every woman who has been, is or will be on the receiving end of domestic violence.

We should be furious.

Why aren’t we?

A Long, Long Time Ago, or Three Years Ago, But Who’s Counting?

For those of you who are currently listening to ‘Look at Me Now’ and wondering what the big deal is, a quick recap: The night before the Grammys in 2009, Chris Brown got angry at his girlfriend, Rihanna, and he took it out on her face. She went to the hospital and then to the LAPD, where this photo was taken and promptly leaked to TMZ. (The LAPD issued a stern statement on the leak, threatening penalties “up to and including termination”. TMZ reportedly paid $62,500 for the photo.)

Both Rihanna and Brown had been scheduled to perform at the Grammys the following evening. Neither did.

Instead, Chris Brown turned himself into the LAPD at 7 pm, was booked on suspicion of criminal threats and was released on $50,000 bail.

Then the Internet exploded.

I was a full-time entertainment writer at the time, so I had a front-row seat to the action. This is what I expected: I expected a string of celebrities to comment on how horrific this situation was, how sad and angry they were for Rihanna, how domestic violence is unacceptable in any context, how as a nation we need to condemn this and condemn it loudly.

Instead, Hollywood went silent and, when they did speak, they teetered on the brink of defending Chris Brown.

Carrie Underwood: “I don’t think anybody actually knows what happened. I have no advice.”

Lindsay Lohan: “I have no comment on that. That’s not my relationship. I think they’re both great people.”

Nia Long: “I know both of them well. They’re young, and all we can do is pray for them at this point.”

Mary J. Blige: “They’re both young and beautiful people, and that’s it.”

Jay-Z, one of Rihanna’s mentors, spoke up: “You have to have compassion for others. Just imagine it being your sister or mom and then think about how we should talk about that. I just think we should all support her.”

In a sane world, Jay-Z’s statement would sound insane. Why would he have to remind his fans to support Rihanna after what happened is that she got hit in the face?

Jay-Z issued that statement because the Internet was, in early February 2009, engaged in a very serious conversation about whether or not all of this was Rihanna’s fault. In fact, large segments of the Internet had devoted themselves to making Rihanna the scapegoat for any woman who ever had the gall to do something worth getting hit, and then the cloying self-esteem to go to the cops about it. Bloggers and their commentators flocked to Chris Brown’s defense in droves. It was a full-blown tearing-down of female self-worth, an assault on any progress women have made in this country in the past 200 years, and the mainstream media ignored it.

It horrified me. It still does.

Later in February, a photo of Brown riding a jet ski in Miami hit the Internet, and singer Usher was caught on video commenting on it: “I’m a little disappointed in this photo,” Usher says in the video. “After the other photo [of Rihanna's bruised face]? C’mon, Chris. Have a little bit of remorse, man. The man’s on jet skis? Like, just relaxing in Miami?”

The backlash was so severe that Usher was later forced to publicly apologize.

“I apologize on behalf of myself and my friends if anyone was offended,” he said. “The intentions were not to pass judgment and we meant no harm. I respect and wish the best for all parties involved.”

The message we sent to young women was unmistakable: You are powerless. You are worthless. You will be a victim, and that will be okay with us.

The Fall-out, and the Lack Thereof

In August 2009, Brown was sentenced to five years probation and 180 hours of community service after pleading guilty to felony assault.

In December 2009, he released his third studio album. It sold over 100,000 copies in its first week and debuted at #7 on the Billboard charts.

On June 8, 2010, Brown was forced to cancel his tour dates in the UK when the British Home Office refused to grant him a work visa on the grounds of “being guilty of a serious criminal offence”. Less than three weeks later, he performed ‘Man in the Mirror’ at the BET Awards’ tribute to Michael Jackson.

His fourth studio album, released in March of last year, debuted at #1.

In December 2011, Billboard crowned him their artist of the year.

And, this week, Grammy producers confirmed that Chris Brown will be performing on Sunday’s show.

“We’re glad to have him back,” said executive producer Ken Ehrlich. “I think people deserve a second chance, you know. If you’ll note, he has not been on the Grammys for the past few years and it may have taken us a while to kind of get over the fact that we were the victim of what happened.”

Read that quote again. Think hard about what is being said. Here is what this quote says to any woman who’s ever been abused:

By blacklisting Chris Brown from the Grammys for a “few” years (actually, a grand total of TWO Grammy Awards), the Grammys have gone above and beyond expectations for the social exile of an adult man who hit his girlfriend so hard she went to the hospital, and honestly it was really, really hard for them to show even that much support for victims of domestic violence worldwide.
It was rather thoughtless of Rihanna to go and get herself hit in the face by her boyfriend, because it’s put such a burden on the Grammys. Maybe if she hadn’t made such a big fuss out of it, things could have been easier for everyone.
The Grammys think that they were the victim of Chris Brown hitting Rihanna in the face.
The Grammys. Think. That they. Were the victim. Of Chris Brown. Hitting. Rihanna. In the face.
Hitting People Is Wrong, Y’All

I agree that people deserve a second chance. It’s great that we live in a country with a justice system that allows offenders to reclaim themselves and their lives after their sentence. I’m happy about that, and I hope Brown is a changed man at the end of his sentence. (The US justice system has Chris Brown on probation through 2014. It was nice of the Grammys to let him off a couple years early for high record sales good behavior.)

And my suspicion is that Rihanna has no interest in being a poster child for victims of domestic violence. She probably wishes this would all disappear, and I don’t blame her for a minute. She didn’t ask for this – for any of it – and she’s under no obligation to speak out about it.

But someone has to. Because what is happening here is unmistakable. It is, in my eyes, so unmistakable that I wonder if I’m wrong, if I’m missing something huge, because I cannot believe more voices aren’t railing against this.

We – the grown-up influencers in this country, the people with platforms and with educations and with power — are allowing a clear message to be sent to women: We will easily forgive a person who victimizes you. We are able to look beyond the fact that you were treated as less than human, that a bigger, stronger person decided to resolve a conflict with you through violence. We know it happened, but it’s just not that big of a deal to us.

We were so mad when the Komen Foundation pulled its funding for breast cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood. “This is not fair,” we shouted. “This is not fair to women, and this is not fair to the women who don’t have a voice, and we will not allow it.” We shouted it so loudly that Komen reversed its decision in three days. We forced the resignation of one of their top executives.

Planned Parenthood, no doubt, has a well-funded and fine-tuned PR machine, adept at galvanizing a population against a perceived injustice. They outmaneuvered Komen easily.

Does domestic violence have a less sophisticated PR machine than Chris Brown does?

Because to me, this situation isn’t all that different. Accepting that Chris Brown gets to perform at the Grammys because some people bought his album is no different from accepting that women without health insurance don’t get to be screened for breast cancer because some VP at Komen is anti-abortion. It may happen, but that doesn’t mean we should tacitly accept it. What if Chris Brown had hit your sister that night? Or your daughter? (What if Chris Brown had hit Taylor Swift that night?)

We’re accepting the message that women just aren’t that important, that their health and their safety and their self-respect is only important until it stops being convenient for everyone. We should be angry about this, and we should be angry publicly about this.

So I want to say this to anyone who is listening: This is not okay with me. A man hitting a woman in anger is unacceptable and is not easily forgotten or forgiven. A man who hits a woman in anger deserves to be reported to the authorities and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of who might be inconvenienced in the process. A man who hits a woman in anger may eventually be permitted to go on with his own life, but he is not permitted back in my life, even if it’s been three whole years.
http://hellogiggles.com/im-not-okay-...re-why-you-are

King Gizzard 14-02-2012 10:59 PM

Grace Dent @gracedent

No, I hate you because you beat women. RT: @chrisbrown: HATE ALL U WANT BECUZ I GOT A GRAMMY Now! That's the ultimate **** OFF!”

Good old grace

Glenn. 14-02-2012 11:07 PM

That article is true considering that Tweet from Mr Brown.

What the tweet says is I beat a girl in the face and won a Grammy for it.

I like the dudes music but I think he needs to wind his neck in :bored:

Z 14-02-2012 11:12 PM

I'm conflicted. I felt very strongly about the whole Rihanna domestic abuse incident and think he's an absolute scum bag for daring to act in the way he does after all of that, swaggering around... but then, I think, why should he spend the rest of his career, or life even, having to go around with this weight on his shoulders that he should appear humble and be made a mockery of forever. Yes, what he did was wrong, very wrong, but he went to the police. He got his punishment. Rihanna's certainly not dwelled upon it publicly so why should he? I despise him but I also pity him for having his life ruined by one, stupid moment of anger. I've not heard any other stories about him hitting a woman. Just that one off incident. I sometimes think the backlash is just too much, you know? Tough situation... his music doesn't really do much for me but I do have some weird form of respect for him for just soldiering on with his career in spite of all the (justified) hatred.

Shaun 14-02-2012 11:19 PM

I kinda agree with you because I'm an advocate of forgiveness and everything, and I do suspect that other issues with Chris Brown are clouding people's willingness to let the Rihanna incident go: for example his overall lack of originality or talent, and his excruciating ego. However the problem is that he represents this idea now in Hollywood that you can hit a woman, serve about 20 hours in community service and then a year later have a #1 album and the same success (if not more) that you had before.

And then there's the fans... I suspect the fans are the main cause of the hatred directed at him. There was a lot of controversy in light of the Grammys because a handful of fans tweeted (whether it was tongue in cheek or not) that they would "let him beat them".

Plus there's his conduct in interviews since the incident. Like the time he flipped a table and ripped off his shirt when someone mentioned it in a green room, and stormed out of the set. He clearly has anger issues to this day, and I guess that's the most frightening thing about it all. He hasn't been punished at all.

King Gizzard 14-02-2012 11:20 PM

I would of advocated forgiveness, if he didn't release music straight after being released

SoBig 14-02-2012 11:21 PM

How can you like or not like him personally, if you don't know him?

He is a talented singer. He makes great music. So yes, I like his music.

King Gizzard 14-02-2012 11:22 PM

Don't give me that crap, you don't need to know someone personally to know if they're an asshole or not, the evidence is there

SoBig 14-02-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 4956616)
Don't give me that crap, you don't need to know someone personally to know if they're an asshole or not, the evidence is there

So you think you know someone because you read something in the paper or saw him on tv?

lmfaoooooo

Again how can you not like someone personally if you don't know them?

Z 14-02-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4956608)
I kinda agree with you because I'm an advocate of forgiveness and everything, and I do suspect that other issues with Chris Brown are clouding people's willingness to let the Rihanna incident go: for example his overall lack of originality or talent, and his excruciating ego. However the problem is that he represents this idea now in Hollywood that you can hit a woman, serve about 20 hours in community service and then a year later have a #1 album and the same success (if not more) that you had before.

And then there's the fans... I suspect the fans are the main cause of the hatred directed at him. There was a lot of controversy in light of the Grammys because a handful of fans tweeted (whether it was tongue in cheek or not) that they would "let him beat them".

Plus there's his conduct in interviews since the incident. Like the time he flipped a table and ripped off his shirt when someone mentioned it in a green room, and stormed out of the set. He clearly has anger issues to this day, and I guess that's the most frightening thing about it all. He hasn't been punished at all.

I do think he's got a lot of anger issues that he needs to work out, in therapy, not on other people :laugh: - and yeah I think the fans make it so much worse, but every pop star has crazy fans that go along with them. I get what you're saying about the Hollywood standard now after what he's done, but at the same time, he's had so much negativity and backlash against him that balances it out I think. Sure, he's been forgiven by the music industry, but he will forever be known for being a woman beater - that's never going to disappear in time, you can't erase a bad thing like that with lots of success - if anything it brings more attention to the bad thing.

Shaun 14-02-2012 11:31 PM

Talented lol


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