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InOne 09-05-2012 02:28 PM

North Carolina bans Gay marriage
 
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North Carolina
voters approved a constitutional amendment yesterday defining marriage
solely as a union between a man and a woman, becoming the latest US
state to effectively slam the door shut on same-sex marriages.

With most of the precincts reporting yesterday, unofficial returns showed the amendment passing with about 61 per cent of the vote to 39 per cent against. North Carolina is the 30th state to adopt such a ban on gay marriage.
More here
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-7727759.html

Black Dagger 09-05-2012 02:29 PM

******** :bored:

They are legit scum of the earth and should die already, or get their heads out of their rear-end, if death is a tad harsh.

Niamh. 09-05-2012 02:32 PM

I wonder what they have against it? It's not as if they take marriage all that seriously there anyway, the divorce rate is so high

Marsh. 09-05-2012 02:32 PM

Quite rightly too. :hmph:

Marsh. 09-05-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5127129)
I wonder what they have against it? It's not as if they take marriage all that seriously there anyway, the divorce rate is so high

Sounds like the amendment passed despite the majority of the voters being in favour.

InOne 09-05-2012 02:36 PM

It was already banned but now it's in the constitution. So could be another 20 years before it's looked at again.

MTVN 09-05-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5127133)
Sounds like the amendment passed despite the majority of the voters being in favour.

Eh the amendment was essentially to ban same-sex marriage, that's what 61% of people were in favour of

Marsh. 09-05-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5127144)
Eh the amendment was essentially to ban same-sex marriage, that's what 61% of people were in favour of

Oh, I presumed the vote was on those in favour of same-sex marriage and those against. Wow, I'm actually surprised America is so against it tbh.

arista 09-05-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 5127125)
******** :bored:

They are legit scum of the earth and should die already, or get their heads out of their rear-end, if death is a tad harsh.


Yes but thats what some parts of America
are like.

Legend killer 09-05-2012 02:42 PM

One tree hill

MTVN 09-05-2012 02:42 PM

I wouldn't say North Carolina is representative of all of America tbf, same sex marriages are legal there in some parts of the country which is more than can be said for here

Ramsay 09-05-2012 02:46 PM

we're in the 21st ****ing century .. get with it carolina ye dopes

Black Dagger 09-05-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5127152)
Yes but thats what some parts of America
are like.

Oh, I can't dispute that.

Black Dagger 09-05-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5127163)
we're in the 21st ****ing century .. get with it carolina ye dopes

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Marsh. 09-05-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5127157)
I wouldn't say North Carolina is representative of all of America tbf, same sex marriages are legal there in some parts of the country which is more than can be said for here

Civil partnership is better than nothing. Apart from the name, it's essentially all of the same rights of a marriage.

bbfan1991 09-05-2012 02:49 PM

What a joke and what a shame that there will always be still some bigoted views around. I am straight and believe that gay people have as much right to get married as straight people because it is about declaring love.

Marriages nowadays mean nothing in terms of vows because of the amount of people divorcing quickly or the rush decisions couples make but it is their life, although fair play to couples that have been married for lots and lots of years through the highs and lows:).

Saph 09-05-2012 03:11 PM

Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

nicole_burks 09-05-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaphLiike (Post 5127206)
Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

Not everyone is going to listen to him.

Samuel. 09-05-2012 03:17 PM

Wow. I thought America was gradually getting better with homosexuality.

MTVN 09-05-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SaphLiike (Post 5127206)
Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

Because States would get really pissed off at having their right to decide things like this taken away

nicole_burks 09-05-2012 03:24 PM

North Carolina is trending on my twitter

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rhfkbzMR1qfrj7t.png
some of the tweets

Tom4784 09-05-2012 04:19 PM

Marriage is sacred you see, Two men or women can't get married because it isn't right but Kim Kardashian can marry for money and that's all fine and dandy because she married a man.

Good family values and all that.

Niamh. 09-05-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole_burks (Post 5127244)
North Carolina is trending on my twitter

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rhfkbzMR1qfrj7t.png
some of the tweets

hahaha, I love the last one :laugh:

Jack_ 09-05-2012 04:47 PM

Welcome to the progressive world.

2012 and places are banning gay marriage. What the ****?

Vicky. 09-05-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5127168)
Civil partnership is better than nothing. Apart from the name, it's essentially all of the same rights of a marriage.

This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage :laugh:

Vicky. 09-05-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5127345)
Marriage is sacred you see, Two men or women can't get married because it isn't right but Kim Kardashian can marry for money and that's all fine and dandy because she married a man.

Good family values and all that.

:joker:

Shaun 09-05-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127393)
This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

I personally agree but that's essentially a massive barrier to homosexuals who do identify themselves as Christian. It'd be like a gym banning fat people - we never use them, but it's nice to know they're there.

Plus there's still inequality about the whole thing. It's all very nice to say that homosexuals have equal rights now but they still have to say "oh we're not married, we're just under a civil union".

There's just no reason for there not to be gay marriage. Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.

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Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage :laugh:
I believe you can :p

Vicky. 09-05-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5127420)
I personally agree but that's essentially a massive barrier to homosexuals who do identify themselves as Christian. It'd be like a gym banning fat people - we never use them, but it's nice to know they're there.

Plus there's still inequality about the whole thing. It's all very nice to say that homosexuals have equal rights now but they still have to say "oh we're not married, we're just under a civil union".

There's just no reason for there not to be gay marriage. Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.

I believe you can :p

Meh not really. That said I know only one gay couple who have a civil partnership...but they class themselves as married, and tell people they are married :S

Its essentially the same thing but with a different name. So while I do think its daft for gay people to 'technically' not be able to be married...I also think its a bit daft to get wound up about not being able to get married in the traditional sense. And I definitely dont agree with some peoples ideas about forcing churches to allow gay marriages to happen. We have to respect their views (however ignorant and bigoted they are) and if their views are that being gay is a sin...then its wrong to force church folk to do something they disagree with.

Is a civil partnership just going to a registry office? Or is that classed as marriage too?

'Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.; :laugh2: at this bit though. How true this is :D

Jords 09-05-2012 05:24 PM

Working backwards!

Niall 09-05-2012 05:25 PM

What disgusting, backward cunts they are :amazed:

InOne 09-05-2012 05:26 PM

Obama's view has always been a bit shakey on this topic, he used to oppose it but recently said he's "warming" to it. Don't know if he's given a official statement yet.

Niall 09-05-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127393)
This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage :laugh:

Well I'm a Christian and gay, so having a religious marriage would be more preferable to me than something secular.

Vicky. 09-05-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 5127454)
Well I'm a Christian and gay, so having a religious marriage would be more preferable to me than something secular.

See I dont understand this at all.

It would be like me chosing a religion that hates women, thinks its unnatural to be a woman, and looks down on me for having a vagina D:

Each to their own though.

Do you go to church and that too?

Niall 09-05-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127463)
See I dont understand this at all.

It would be like me chosing a religion that hates women, thinks its unnatural to be a woman, and looks down on me for having a vagina D:

Each to their own though.

Do you go to church and that too?

Well its not as if I chose to be Christian really I've grown up in a Catholic family so its something that has been drummed into me and I kinda believe in it myself now. I don't identify myself as any type of denomination though now, I rejected all the going to Church crap. I mean if God's everywhere, why should I waste an hour a week at a building to see him? Its silly.

I used to go to Church though. Technically I should've been confirmed at 15, but by then I was fairly sure of sexuality and I wasn't going to enter into a lifelong commitment to a Church that thinks I'm morally wrong. :joker:

Shaun 09-05-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127439)
Meh not really. That said I know only one gay couple who have a civil partnership...but they class themselves as married, and tell people they are married :S

Its essentially the same thing but with a different name. So while I do think its daft for gay people to 'technically' not be able to be married...I also think its a bit daft to get wound up about not being able to get married in the traditional sense.

I suppose I'm more caught up with how other people perceive it. I just don't think we can say gay people have the same rights until gay marriage is legal.

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And I definitely dont agree with some peoples ideas about forcing churches to allow gay marriages to happen. We have to respect their views (however ignorant and bigoted they are) and if their views are that being gay is a sin...then its wrong to force church folk to do something they disagree with.
That's the thing, though. The 'church' is so diverse and full of conflicting opinions that it's a bit rich to say they're being laboured with something they totally disagree with: there're many gay priests and bishops (and that's ignoring the obvious choir-boy jibes :p) who're in favour of gay marriage. On the other hand there're groups of Christians in favour of picketing soldiers' funerals with "God Hates Fags" placards. It's not entirely representative to worry we're imposing something a whole religion disagrees with on them, when they don't.

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Is a civil partnership just going to a registry office? Or is that classed as marriage too?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...l-partnerships

Reading that it would appear the only difference is a religious one.

Vicky. 09-05-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Niall (Post 5127476)
Well its not as if I chose to be Christian really I've grown up in a Catholic family so its something that has been drummed into me and I kinda believe in it myself now. I don't identify myself as any type of denomination though now, I rejected all the going to Church crap. I mean if God's everywhere, why should I waste an hour a week at a building to see him? Its silly.

I used to go to Church though. Technically I should've been confirmed at 15, but by then I was fairly sure of sexuality and I wasn't going to enter into a lifelong commitment to a Church that thinks I'm morally wrong. :joker:

Bloody spot on. Very rare you hear/see a religious person say that too :laugh:

I grew up in a christian family, was made to go to sunday school and that...knew from a very young age that it wasnt for me. Sunday school teachers must have hated me because I was a cocky little **** who kept asking questions they couldnt answer infront of everyone (main one being dinosaurs...I think I brought that up like every other week)

Tom4784 09-05-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127463)
See I dont understand this at all.

It would be like me chosing a religion that hates women, thinks its unnatural to be a woman, and looks down on me for having a vagina D:

Each to their own though.

Do you go to church and that too?

....So Christianity?

Vicky. 09-05-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5127480)
That's the thing, though. The 'church' is so diverse and full of conflicting opinions that it's a bit rich to say they're being laboured with something they totally disagree with: there're many gay priests and bishops (and that's ignoring the obvious choir-boy jibes :p) who're in favour of gay marriage. On the other hand there're groups of Christians in favour of picketing soldiers' funerals with "God Hates Fags" placards. It's not entirely representative to worry we're imposing something a whole religion disagrees with on them, when they don't.

:joker:

Thats a great point actually. I'm pretty damn sure its not ALL churches or ALL christians who oppose gay marriage...I'm sure a lot are openminded enough to realise that what goes on in another persons bedroom is absolutely ******* all to do with anyone else.

Vicky. 09-05-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5127484)
....So Christianity?

Most religions tbh.

Part of the reason I have no religion :laugh:

Niall 09-05-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5127482)
Bloody spot on. Very rare you hear/see a religious person say that too :laugh:

I grew up in a christian family, was made to go to sunday school and that...knew from a very young age that it wasnt for me. Sunday school teachers must have hated me because I was a cocky little **** who kept asking questions they couldnt answer infront of everyone (main one being dinosaurs...I think I brought that up like every other week)

Haha. :laugh: I just think its so silly to say things like "God is in all of us" but insist that I come to Church every week and all that. :bored: I hate the Church as an institution anyway. Its corrupt and unnecessary.

:joker: I never went to Sunday school, but I went to a Catholic primary though. My Nan used to look after me when I was little and she'd take me to all these churches and stuff. It was dull. She used to bring me to this prayer group thing sometimes where these people would just sit there praying the rosary over and over for like half an hour. It was boring as ****. :bored:


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