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Mrluvaluva 20-05-2012 04:59 PM

Olympic flame carriers cash in by listing their torches on eBay for up to £150,000
 
It was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime honour granted to the great and the good in Britain.

And the 8,000-mile Olympic torch relay across the UK has been cheered on by thousands since it set off just days ago after arriving in the country accompanied by David Beckham.

But the privilege of taking part in the Olympic torch relay for this summer's games is also providing an opportunity for participants to cash in - with eBay auction bids for the prized torches already reaching up to £150,000.

A number of the torches - which are given to bearers in the relay for a discount price of £295 - have already been put up for sale on the internet auction site.

One seller, whose listing has reached a price of £111,000, has not even completed their leg of the relay yet, with the eBay user promising to post the torch 'as soon as the run is completed and the funds have cleared'.

Andrew Bell, 32 - who completed his relay leg in Marazion, Cornwall - was one of those to put his torch up for sale on eBay, saying he hoped the auction would provide some much needed income for his family.

Mr Bell told the Sun newspaper: 'I understand some people may find the idea of selling an Olympic torch offensive but we could genuinely use the money.
'Without giving you a sob story, we've a lovely baby boy and my wife has just gone back to work after maternity leave.'

Mr Bell, who has since taken down the listing of his torch, added: 'Also, the torch is nearly a metre long, and looks weird on the mantlepiece.'

Although the astronomically-high prices of many of the auctions suggests the sales have been targeted by hoax bidders, Olympic organisers have refused to condemn those people planning on selling their torches.

A spokeswoman for London 2012 said: 'The majority of people will want to keep their torch, but ultimately it's their property and for them to decide what to do with it.

'We hope the torches and uniforms find good homes.'

Although some runners have tried to cash in on taking part in the relay, the excitement of other torch bearers seems to be enough on its own.


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Do you think it's morally wrong or do you say good luck to 'em?

Jack_ 20-05-2012 06:09 PM

Don't think you can get too 'moral' about it really, it's just a torch.

It's a bit ungrateful perhaps but what can you do, if you're gonna make a huge amount of cash, then why not?

Pyramid* 20-05-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5146758)
It was supposed to be a once-in-a-lifetime honour granted to the great and the good in Britain.

And the 8,000-mile Olympic torch relay across the UK has been cheered on by thousands since it set off just days ago after arriving in the country accompanied by David Beckham.

But the privilege of taking part in the Olympic torch relay for this summer's games is also providing an opportunity for participants to cash in - with eBay auction bids for the prized torches already reaching up to £150,000.

A number of the torches - which are given to bearers in the relay for a discount price of £295 - have already been put up for sale on the internet auction site.

One seller, whose listing has reached a price of £111,000, has not even completed their leg of the relay yet, with the eBay user promising to post the torch 'as soon as the run is completed and the funds have cleared'.

Andrew Bell, 32 - who completed his relay leg in Marazion, Cornwall - was one of those to put his torch up for sale on eBay, saying he hoped the auction would provide some much needed income for his family.

Mr Bell told the Sun newspaper: 'I understand some people may find the idea of selling an Olympic torch offensive but we could genuinely use the money.
'Without giving you a sob story, we've a lovely baby boy and my wife has just gone back to work after maternity leave.'

Mr Bell, who has since taken down the listing of his torch, added: 'Also, the torch is nearly a metre long, and looks weird on the mantlepiece.'

Although the astronomically-high prices of many of the auctions suggests the sales have been targeted by hoax bidders, Olympic organisers have refused to condemn those people planning on selling their torches.

A spokeswoman for London 2012 said: 'The majority of people will want to keep their torch, but ultimately it's their property and for them to decide what to do with it.

'We hope the torches and uniforms find good homes.'

Although some runners have tried to cash in on taking part in the relay, the excitement of other torch bearers seems to be enough on its own.


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Do you think it's morally wrong or do you say good luck to 'em?

Mmm..... I think if they are sold with proceeds going to charities: then that's acceptable.

Other than that - nah, this doesn't sit well with me. The guy from Cornwall states his wife is working: without checking: I bet he works also: sure it's his to do with what he wants, but it's pretty shallow imo.

It is meant to be an honour.

Mrluvaluva 20-05-2012 06:19 PM

I don't see a problem with it personally, especially as they were charged £295 for the honour of keeping one. If they were given them as a souvenier of their experience, then I might feel a bit different. If people want to pay thousands of pounds for one, that's up to them really.

Pyramid* 20-05-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5146848)
I don't see a problem with it personally, especially as they were charged £295 for the honour of keeping one. If they were given them as a souvenier of their experience, then I might feel a bit different. If people want to pay thousands of pounds for one, that's up to them really.

I don't it as a problem either tbh: I just think it's shallow.

As I said, it's theirs to do what they want with. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would have loved the honour - but didn't have the £295 to take part in purchasing.

daniel-lewis-1985 20-05-2012 06:30 PM

What would i prefer having some orniment sat in my house gathering dust or getting a life changing ammount of money?

Erm i would choose the second option lol.

Pyramid* 20-05-2012 06:43 PM

Have any of these torches being sold - actually passed hands and money paid up?

Omah 20-05-2012 06:43 PM

Not bovvered ..... :bored:

Mrluvaluva 20-05-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5146905)
Have any of these torches being sold - actually passed hands and money paid up?

We don't get to see that information, but I saw a report about this story on the news before. This has got 50+ bids currently with just over 2 hours to go and the bid stands at just over £21,000 currently. I cannot see them all being hoax bids.

Pyramid* 20-05-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 5146971)
We don't get to see that information, but I saw a report about this story on the news before. This has got 50+ bids currently with just over 2 hours to go and the bid stands at just over £21,000 currently. I cannot see them all being hoax bids.

Oh I agree, ... but it would be interesting to find out if and when monies actually change hands.

I do agree that the chances of all 61 (and counting) bidders being hoaxes is pretty much nil !

Harry! 20-05-2012 07:31 PM

I just think it is wrong so many torches were produced, it takes the whole "bringing the torch to London" aspect away when so many people have torches. You are basically owning "a" torch rather then "the" torch which is a different thing altogether.

daniel-lewis-1985 20-05-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 5147007)
I just think it is wrong so many torches were produced, it takes the whole "bringing the torch to London" aspect away when so many people have torches. You are basically owning "a" torch rather then "the" torch which is a different thing altogether.

Exactly.

If Billie Mitchell can carry one then it aint special.

Pyramid* 20-05-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry! (Post 5147007)
I just think it is wrong so many torches were produced, it takes the whole "bringing the torch to London" aspect away when so many people have torches. You are basically owning "a" torch rather then "the" torch which is a different thing altogether.


Yep...... pretty much sums it up Harry. The torch bearer was meant to be an honour and a priviledge - now it's just a commercial gimmick.

Sad.

MTVN 20-05-2012 07:56 PM

Meh if people are prepared to pay that much money for a torch then I can't blame them for selling it

Z 20-05-2012 08:03 PM

It's just a torch at the end of the day...

Vicky. 20-05-2012 08:19 PM

I would almost definitely sell it tbh if I had the chance. I would rather a huge lump of cash than an old torch sitting round my house for years :laugh:

Scarlett. 20-05-2012 08:23 PM

Surely it'd be a great thing to keep so you can tell stories to the grandchildren while they're not playing Hyperreality 3000 on their Whizzboxes in 2060 odd, but each to their own I guess

Tom4784 20-05-2012 08:25 PM

Times are hard, I don't blame them.

Mrluvaluva 20-05-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5146983)
Oh I agree, ... but it would be interesting to find out if and when monies actually change hands.

I do agree that the chances of all 61 (and counting) bidders being hoaxes is pretty much nil !

The bids are getting quite ridiculous now at over £120,000...

Z 20-05-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 5147101)
Surely it'd be a great thing to keep so you can tell stories to the grandchildren while they're not playing Hyperreality 3000 on their Whizzboxes in 2060 odd, but each to their own I guess

Meh, you could take photos. I'd do the same if I had one!

lostalex 21-05-2012 10:10 AM

I'd love to be rich enuf to collect olympic torches. I'm a huge olympics fan and i think it would be a really interesting thing to collect.

Livia 21-05-2012 11:20 AM

It's the flame that's important, not the torch.

Having said that, sadly, and in my opinion, there should be some kind of contract that says if you have the honour of carrying a torch and then sell it, all proceeds must go to charity.

Niamh. 21-05-2012 11:24 AM

If I had a torch and someone offered to give my £150k for it I'd sell it lol

Shaun 21-05-2012 11:26 AM

I don't see where the notion of charity has come into the Olympic games. Sponsorship and government funding are far more bigger sums being thrown around in light of the organisation, and when Cadbury's are the official sponsors I'm not entirely surprised to see people being slightly less-than-noble when there're idiots out there willing to pay £150k for a bit of metal that was once on fire.

I'd definitely do the same, and I don't think I'd care about what it does to the 'spirit' of the games. The Olympics are about sport. **** the cultural Olympiad. Watch a documentary or two if you want that.

However, the fact they cost £295 in the first place makes me question that Cornish man's lack of financial hardship.

Livia 21-05-2012 11:37 AM

I thinking that, if you consider it as "just a piece of metal" and have no qualms about selling it to the highest bidder, perhaps you're not the ideal person to have been chosen to carry it in the first place.

Shaun 21-05-2012 11:40 AM

Indeed, which raises the question: who selected the runners and why :tongue:

lostalex 21-05-2012 11:41 AM

It wouldn't be just a piece of metal to me. I think the torches from all the modern games are beautiful, they really are pieces of art imo.

Like i said before, i think for certain people (like me) they are amazing pieces of history, and i think it's wonderful that collectors have the chance to obtain them.

I would love to have one.

Niamh. 21-05-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5147658)
I thinking that, if you consider it as "just a piece of metal" and have no qualms about selling it to the highest bidder, perhaps you're not the ideal person to have been chosen to carry it in the first place.

150k is 150k..........that's a mortgage free house. I don't think I'll ever be asked to carry one anyway :laugh:

Livia 21-05-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5147660)
Indeed, which raises the question: who selected the runners and why :tongue:

I have no idea. I assumed that people would be chosen to whom being able to carry the torch in the relay would mean something more than cash. Quite naive of me really, I suppose.

Livia 21-05-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5147662)
150k is 150k..........that's a mortgage free house. I don't think I'll ever be asked to carry one anyway :laugh:

I understand that, I just think it's unethical and not at all within the spirit of being chosen to carry the torch.

lostalex 21-05-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5147663)
I have no idea. I assumed that people would be chosen to whom being able to carry the torch in the relay would mean something more than cash. Quite naive of me really, I suppose.

just because someone decides to sell their torch does not mean that they didn't deserve the experience. everyone was specifically chosen for their service to the UK and they will have deserved the experience. selling the torch doesn't mean that they don't value the experience.

Mrluvaluva 21-05-2012 12:47 PM

An Olympic torch has sold on eBay for £153,100 just one day after the first leg of the relay.

Sarah Milner Simonds, of Burnham-on-Sea, listed the item as being "used in the torch relay" and mentioned that it "may be soot marked from its moments alight".

The internet auction finished on Sunday and the winning bidder, who goes by the username salvadorpete.

Ms Milner, who was also selling the torch bearer's uniform, is using the money for community gardening project The People's Plot.

Ms Milner says she has not yet received the money for the torch.

There were also over 30 other auctions on the site for Olympic torches - many of which popped up following the sale.

One torch was going for £10,600 with 16 hours to run, and another had attracted a top bid of £4,100 with 14 hours left to bid.

One seller had put their torch up for sale with a starting bid of £100,000 but had received no offers.

The 8,000 torchbearers who were chosen to carry the Olympic flame on its journey across the UK were nominated to run a leg of the Olympic torch because they had done something brave or inspirational in their communities.

Organisers had previously said they would sell the Olympic torches at a loss to the bearers.

They cost £495 to make and torchbearers could buy theirs after the relay at £215 each so they could keep a bit of memorabilia.

But it seems some torchbearers decided to choose profit over nostalgia.

A spokesman for Locog said: "It is up to torchbearers what they do with their torches, and we hope the torches on eBay go to a good home."


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Figures are a bit different in that story?

Omah 22-05-2012 12:08 PM

Olympic torch relay: £150K eBay bid 'a hoax'
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-18157074

Quote:

An internet auction bid of more than £150,000 for an Olympic torch was a hoax, the seller has said.

Cornwall torchbearer Sophia Cowburn put the torch on sale on eBay to raise funds for the Invictus Trust charity. It attracted a top bid of £150,400.

Ms Cowburn, 19, said: "The bidding closed and then a few moments after we found out it was a hoax bidder."

The auction attracted 226 bids but the winning buyer has not been contactable for comment.
Surprise, surprise ..... :rolleyes:

Shaun 22-05-2012 12:13 PM

Well at least she's doing it for charity, shame it was a hoax bidder though :/

Kizzy 22-05-2012 12:20 PM

What a shame duping her like that, cant the previous bidder be notified?
I think that it is an excellent way of raising funds for your chosen charity or yourself. Its just the torch for sale not the experience or the honour....

Mrluvaluva 22-05-2012 12:37 PM

In cases like this then the next highest bidder gets the chance to purchase.


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