Websites to be forced to identify trolls under new measures
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18404621

About time ..... :pipe:

Trolls will get their come-uppance ..... :thumbs2:

Did you hear that scott?

Yes Makes Good Sense
but Facebook is slow to help
so everyone will be watching them.

Finally Scott can be named. :laugh:

But in all seriousness this is a good thing!

Disgusting affront to the the freedom of speech and freedom of the internet. Europe has very disturbing ideas about the freedom of speech.


This is just as disgusting as the super injunctions.

If you put yourself online then you open yourself up to criticism. If you can't handle it then don't go online. You don't have the RIGHT to not be offended. Freedom of speech means the right to offend. No one is forcing you to go online and read peoples comments.

Very disturbing.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, I can see both sides of the argument and both have obvious problems.

Yes
of course on TIBB they never go that far
as they are deleted
making this a Model site.

Very disturbing.

This side of the water, we tend to have a more civilised view.

In English Law :

So the addition to the Defamation Bill merely adds elements of the internet to the list of "outlets" which can be prosecuted by the individual to protect their rights

Hope this isn't a daftish question. But there are going to be underage trolls. In those instances will they still be held accoutable to a certain degree? Or will parents and guardians have to take full responsibility for the actions instead?

Both

I've noticed a lot of celebrities going on about so called "trolls" lately, and I'm not talking about the people who are rude to them on Twitter, I mean the people who go on forums and say they don't like someone - That's apparently 'trolling' now, even though it's not directly thrown into the celebrities faces, they go out of their way to find it.

There is a massive difference between freedom of speech and let's say somebody trolling an R.I.P page for example. :bored:

What's next? Thought crimes?

Like Jordan is a Tramp Slut?
on SkyLivingHD

FM's can say very derogatory things about housemates/celebrities, just not other fm's. TIBB would also have to change it's own rules to meet these standards.

TIBB is very strict, so if a site that is already is doing a lot to prevent anything bad being posted (like a joke in serious debates), then this will have far reaching consequences for the internet as a whole.

Not as Strict as others.

It's a good question ..... I don't think there's a specific answer to that one yet ..... :idc:

No

The law states :

I'm not disputing that fact. However, TIBB will still have to change it's rules, so I'm not sure what you are disputing.

Time will tell.



Jordan is Still a Tramp Slut.

I think a lot of people have misinterpreted this ruling it doesnt mean anybody will get in trouble for being abusive or hateful towards anybody it only concerns people that post things that break the law i.e. racist comments,threats of violence towards somebody and threats of theft or murder etc.
Laws that we are all already subject to the only change is the role of website operators being obliged to co-operate with handing over logs detailing ip addresss and details of the offending material.

censorship is civilized? really? Well i guess if you think fascism is civilized...

There is nothing civilized about restricting speech.

I think this is to stop the families, who have had someone die, being harassed.

I think in some cases, like the one in the article, then naming and prosecuting these people is warranted, there is a big difference between free speech and spreading revolting lies about a person and defaming their character.

Putting yourself up for criticism is one thing but being labelled a paedophile for someone elses entertainment is quite another.

being called names is not a good reason to criminalize speech.

Should i be able to have every one arrested who ever says something homophobic? why is it only celebrities and people in the public eye who seem to get this special treatment? this isn't just about freedom of speech it's also about elitism. Just like the super injunctions.

We live in a SOCIETY. you don't have a right to privacy if you put yourself in the public eye. No one is forced to be in the public eye, no one is forced to have a facebook account or a twitter account. When you put yourself out into society you also put yourself open to criticism and ridicule.

this is just as much about the class system in europe as it is about the freedom of speech.

When's the last time a court defended some working class person who was called an ASBO or a chav online?? WHy is it only the RIch people who seem to be getting this kind of defense from the government??

I agree with the majority on this,Internet trolls are nothing but computer cowards and some of their comments to berieved people for example are sickening,we might have the freedom of speech but if a person cannot talk without being vile then they have no rights on the net,let them go to tell the person to their face !! it would soon stop.

Well, say what you want, but I don't class harassment of people for no apparent reason other than the fact that these people get some sort of kicks from it, as free speech, in fact it's a mockery of free speech. People should be able to have Facebook accounts without the threat of some bored stranger deciding to harass them for no reason.

i'm sure they would disagree that they said it for no reason. And even if they did say it for no reason, even if they did say it just for the Lulz, then that makes this whole thing even more ridiculous.
Yur banning free speech cause someone said something ridiculous? toughen the eff up.

If someone reports her to the cops calling her a pedophile that is already illegal, making a false report is already illegal. The laws don't need any changing.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe everyone should be allowed to use the internet, it shouldn't be only there for Trolls and people with tough skins, you wouldn't be allowed harass someone like that in r/l and you shouldn't be allowed harass someone on the net either. I do believe in free speech but I believe there is a difference between free speech and harassment

actually yur wrong, if i was at a bar and got into an argument with someone and just flippantly said "you are an ugly, fagggot pedophile!" do you honestly think i'd be arrested? no of course not. getting into a verbal spar with someone in a pub doesn't get you arrested. You might get kicked out of the pub and told to go home but yu certainly wouldn't get arrested.

So if it's okay to say in real life in a pub, why isn't it okay online? iF everyone was arrested for calling eachother names we should ALL be in jail.

I said harassment not a one time insult or argument, If that same person was following you around calling you a paedophile then yes they would most likely be arrested.

But this was not a case of harassment. No one was following her arround harassing her. these were all individuals. You can't set up a facebook page to the public and then just complain because you don't like what people have to say. Facebook has privacy settings.

This is like saying that if a stand up comic gets on stage, anyone who heckles them should be arrested.

Well, apparently you can :idc:

yes because of fascist policies. Just like in most countries (not the US) they can arrest you for talking ill of their dear leaders. Hell you can be stoned to death in a lot of countries for saying offensive things about mohammed.

Just cause it's the law doesn't make it right.

And just because you don't agree with it, it doesn't make it wrong either

Good. There is a place for people sick enough to say some of the things trolls say, and the Internet is not that place.

People do tend to get confused about Freedom of Speech. It does not mean you can blurt out any half-baked, ill-thought through idea that pops into your mind, it is far more intricate than that. You cannot give someone the "freedom" to oppress and violate someone else. I say that not because it is my opinion, I say that as a lawyer.

Exactly Livia, said far more eloquently than I could :wink:

Thanks... but not true!